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Live Benaroya bootleg vinyl issues

blastingfondablastingfonda Posts: 144
edited December 2020 in The Porch
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  • vinyl boyvinyl boy Posts: 199
    I think I read somewhere that there was a recording issue on that song which means they probably don’t have a fix for it.  Also I noticed all related PJ records have been pulled from their website so just be happy you got a 98% accurate record.  That’s how I’m looking at it as I listen to mine right now. 
  • blastingfondablastingfonda Posts: 144
    Finally got a hold of them and they're issuing a refund. I caught the dude in his own words when he claimed they were "very aware" of the issue and still decided to sell them after the fact. 
  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    blastingfonda said:
    Finally got a hold of them and they're issuing a refund. I caught the dude in his own words when he claimed they were "very aware" of the issue and still decided to sell them after the fact. 
    Yea, since these have been talked about a bunch lately, I did some research... yea this is a defect in whatever source they used or however they were plated, and it is well known issue. 
  • kramer73kramer73 Posts: 2,622
    Defects on a bootleg?  Do tell.
  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    kramer73 said:
    Defects on a bootleg?  Do tell.
    Yea, bootleg people, looking to make a quick illegal buck...they don't care what it sounds like..lol
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    kramer73 said:
    Defects on a bootleg?  Do tell.
    LMAO.  
  • PJammer4lifePJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,656
    Where is the Benaroya Hall Bootleg LP Revised/Current Owners’ List?  B)
    Bridge Benefit 1994, San Francisco 1995, San Diego 1995 1 & 2, Missoula 1998, Los Angeles 2000, San Diego 2000, Eddie Vedder/Beck 2/26/2002, Santa Barbara 2003, Irvine 2003, San Diego 2003, Vancouver 2005, Gorge 2005, San Diego 2006, Los Angeles 2006 1 & 2, Santa Barbara 2006, Eddie Vedder 4/10/08, Eddie Vedder 4/12/08, Eddie Vedder 4/15/08, 7/12/2008, SF 8/28/09, LA 9/30/09, LA 10/1/09, LA 10/06/09, LA 10/07/09, San Diego 10/09/09, Eddie Vedder 7/6/2011, Eddie Vedder 7/8/2011, PJ20 9/3/2011, PJ20 9/4/2011, Vancouver 9/25/2011, San Diego 11/21/13, LA 11/24/13, Ohana 9/25/21, Ohana 9/26/21, Ohana 10/1/21, EV 2/17/22, LA Forum 5/6/22, LA Forum 5/7/22, EV 10/1/22, EV 9/30/23
  • BF89905BF89905 Posts: 1,426
    They don't find validation in a "hey, look at what I own" list.
  • hairgrowth2001hairgrowth2001 Posts: 447
    To hell we don’t! I got #1/XXX
  • ZodZod Posts: 10,746
    MedozK said:
    kramer73 said:
    Defects on a bootleg?  Do tell.
    Yea, bootleg people, looking to make a quick illegal buck...they don't care what it sounds like..lol
    I was surprised the poster above got a refund.   In my head I was thinking its a bootleg, usually when you buy a bootleg, you're stuck with what you bought.
  • blastingfondablastingfonda Posts: 144
    I'm still surprised I received a refund. I was only asking for an explanation and maybe a discount on a future purchase but the guy wouldn't budge until I caught him in his words as he started to deny he was even aware and than at what point he was aware of the defect...plus they sold the record pre black friday and than again on black friday so at some point he was made aware of the defect and sold the remaining few anyway. I just asked him for transparency on overview. Maybe mention the problems on the product listing next time so people know what issues they're about to buy into. Otherwise its shady asf. 
  • LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,072
    blastingfonda said:
    I'm still surprised I received a refund. I was only asking for an explanation and maybe a discount on a future purchase but the guy wouldn't budge until I caught him in his words as he started to deny he was even aware and than at what point he was aware of the defect...plus they sold the record pre black friday and than again on black friday so at some point he was made aware of the defect and sold the remaining few anyway. I just asked him for transparency on overview. Maybe mention the problems on the product listing next time so people know what issues they're about to buy into. Otherwise its shady asf. 
    Very shady. I appreciate all of the advice. 
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    My copy sounds terrific besides the end of All or None.  During the solo it cuts out like someone just cut the volume for a second or two.  Everything else sounds great.  

    I never have high expectations for bootlegs.  I prefer
    to be pleasantly surprised :lol:
  • MedozKMedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    edited December 2020
    cp3iverson said:
    My copy sounds terrific besides the end of All or None.  During the solo it cuts out like someone just cut the volume for a second or two.  Everything else sounds great.  

    I never have high expectations for bootlegs.  I prefer
    to be pleasantly surprised :lol:
    Someone must have hit pause on the cd player that they were using to cut..lol

    And its a great recording so it should sound great.. the CD sounds great.

    When you look at the Dynamic Range of the CD
    DR		Peak		RMS		Filename
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 DR7		-0.06 dB 	-10.19 dB 	1 Audio Track.aiff
 DR6		-0.20 dB 	-8.63 dB 	10 Audio Track.aiff
 DR9		-0.28 dB 	-11.25 dB 	11 Audio Track.aiff
 DR5		-0.16 dB 	-7.38 dB 	12 Audio Track.aiff
 DR7		-0.14 dB 	-8.25 dB 	2 Audio Track.aiff
 DR10		-2.18 dB 	-17.39 dB 	3 Audio Track.aiff
 DR9		-0.30 dB 	-11.92 dB 	4 Audio Track.aiff
 DR10		-0.30 dB 	-14.03 dB 	5 Audio Track.aiff
 DR6		-0.08 dB 	-8.91 dB 	6 Audio Track.aiff
 DR6		-0.22 dB 	-8.33 dB 	7 Audio Track.aiff
 DR7		-0.03 dB 	-9.46 dB 	8 Audio Track.aiff
 DR6		-0.15 dB 	-6.91 dB 	9 Audio Track.aiff
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 Number of files:	12
 Official DR value:	DR7

    It basically shows a very average DR7 for the CD, so the recording actually makes it sound a lot better, but when you hit double digits DR from the vinyl release, that is what makes it seem like your in the room.


    Just as a side question, what is the runout information on these bootlegs?
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