*** DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN INDICTED ***

josevolution

THE FIELD

Just hope DOJ does their job and hope the evidence will sway a conviction 

Lerxst1992

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

garland needs to indict right now. before the end of the year.

Special prosecutor is working on it. Slow and steady as he goes. I want an indictment and prosecution.

And I want a full American tour next year 

Each has about the same chance, less likely than unlikely.

Halifax2TheMax

2021

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

garland needs to indict right now. before the end of the year.

Special prosecutor is working on it. Slow and steady as he goes. I want an indictment and prosecution.

And I want a full American tour next year 

Each has about the same chance, less likely than unlikely.

40 cities with 120 shows.

mrussel1

2021

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

garland needs to indict right now. before the end of the year.

Special prosecutor is working on it. Slow and steady as he goes. I want an indictment and prosecution.

And I want a full American tour next year 

Each has about the same chance, less likely than unlikely.

40 cities with 120 shows.

I heard it’s a club tour.  Not confirmed though.

Halifax2TheMax

2021

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

garland needs to indict right now. before the end of the year.

Special prosecutor is working on it. Slow and steady as he goes. I want an indictment and prosecution.

And I want a full American tour next year 

Each has about the same chance, less likely than unlikely.

40 cities with 120 shows.

I heard it’s a club tour.  Not confirmed though.

I heard it was one club show, one arena show and one of the three 10 club only, depending on city, potential draw and whether they could fill the arena with 10 clubbers. If not, it might be two club shows with one being ten club only and an arena show. I also heard they were feeling bad about the 10 days of Christmas give away, the huge increase in the digital only cost and elimination of the Deep issues. It’s their way of making up for it. At least according to grunge.net.

The Juggler

2022

Lerxst1992 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

garland needs to indict right now. before the end of the year.

Special prosecutor is working on it. Slow and steady as he goes. I want an indictment and prosecution.

And I want a full American tour next year 

Each has about the same chance, less likely than unlikely.

I actually think the indictment has a better chance than another PJ tour next year. 

ikiT

2023

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The Juggler

2022

tick tock 

gimmesometruth27

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The Juggler

2022

gimmesometruth27 said:

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nothing is happening before the end of the year

The Juggler

2022

https://apnews.com/article/politics-georgia-donald-trump-juries-united-states-government-fc08d39209ce3be768d933f96a434abf

Ga. special grand jury ends probe of Trump, 2020 election

By KATE BRUMBACK38 minutes ago

ATLANTA (AP) — The special grand jury in Atlanta that has been investigating whether then-President Donald Trump and his allies committed any crimes while trying to overturn his 2020 election loss in Georgia has finished its work, bringing the case closer to possible criminal charges against Trump and others.

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney, who was overseeing the panel, issued a two-page order Monday dissolving the special grand jury. The lengthy investigation has been one of several around the country that threaten legal peril for Trump as he mounts a third bid for the White House.

The decision whether to seek an indictment from a regular grand jury will be up to Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. Willis spokesperson Jeff DiSantis said the office had no comment on the completion of the panel’s work.

McBurney wrote in his order that the special grand jury recommended that its report be made public. He scheduled a hearing for Jan. 24 to determine whether all or part of the report should be released and said the district attorney’s office and news outlets would be given an opportunity to make arguments at that hearing.

Since June, the special grand jury has heard testimony from dozens of witnesses, including numerous close Trump associates such as the former New York mayor and Trump attorney, Rudy Giuliani, andSen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. Assorted high-ranking Georgia officials have also testified, among them Gov. Brian Kemp and Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

Last month, the House committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection asserted in its final report that Trump criminally engaged in a “multi-part conspiracy” to overturn the lawful results of the 2020 presidential election and failed to act to stop his supporters from attacking the Capitol. The report concluded an extraordinary 18-month investigation into the former president and the violent attack.

Special grand juries in Georgia cannot issue indictments but instead can issue a final report recommending actions to be taken.

Willis opened the investigation in early 2021, shortly after a recording surfaced of a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call between Trump and Raffensperger. During that call, the president suggested the state’s top elections official could “find” the votes needed to overturn his loss in the state.

“I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have,” Trump had said. “Because we won the state.”

Since then it has become clear that Willis has been focusing on several different areas: phone calls made to Georgia officials by Trump and his allies; false statements made by Trump associates before Georgia legislative committees; a panel of 16 Republicans who signed a certificate falsely stating that Trump had won the state and that they were the state’s “duly elected and qualified” electors; the abrupt resignation of the U.S. attorney in Atlanta in January 2021; alleged attempts to pressure a Fulton County election worker; and breaches of election equipment in a rural south Georgia county.

Lawyers for Giuliani said in August that prosecutors told them he could possibly face criminal charges in the case. The 16 Republican fake electors have also been told they are targets of the investigation, according to public court filings. It is possible that others have also been notified they are targets of the investigation.

Trump and his allies have consistently denied any wrongdoing, with the former president repeatedly describing his call with Raffensperger as “perfect” and dismissing Willis’ investigation as a “strictly political Witch Hunt!”

Willis took the unusual step in January 2022 of requesting that a special grand jury be seated to aid the investigation. She noted that a special grand jury would have subpoena power which would help compel testimony from witnesses who were otherwise unwilling to participate in the investigation.

In a letter asking the court to impanel the special grand jury, Willis wrote that her office had received information indicating a “reasonable probability” that Georgia’s 2020 election, including the presidential race, “was subject to possible criminal disruptions.” Her request was granted and the special grand jury was seated in May.

gimmesometruth27

good because it seems like garland does not want to indict.

The Juggler

2022

gimmesometruth27 said:

good because it seems like garland does not want to indict.

I think Jack Smith will have a lot to say about that this year. 

gimmesometruth27

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

good because it seems like garland does not want to indict.

I think Jack Smith will have a lot to say about that this year. 

doesn't the ag have to be the one to prosecute though? what good is the special prosecutor if the ag is not inclined to charge?

mrussel1

2021

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

good because it seems like garland does not want to indict.

I think Jack Smith will have a lot to say about that this year. 

doesn't the ag have to be the one to prosecute though? what good is the special prosecutor if the ag is not inclined to charge?

Garland is leaving the decision to him,  free of any perceived political influence. 

mickeyrat

gimmesometruth27 said:

The Juggler said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

good because it seems like garland does not want to indict.

I think Jack Smith will have a lot to say about that this year. 

doesn't the ag have to be the one to prosecute though? what good is the special prosecutor if the ag is not inclined to charge?

https://www.justice.gov/sco-smith

 open the document in this link

The Juggler

2022

The Juggler

2022

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/24/politics/fulton-county-trump-grand-jury-hearing/index.html

‘Decisions are imminent’ on charges in Trump’s effort to overturn 2020 election in Georgia, Fulton County DA says

Former President Donald Trump and Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis

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CNN — 

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis suggested Tuesday that the special grand jury investigating Donald Trump and his allies’ efforts to upend the 2020 election in Georgia has recommended multiple indictments and said that her decision on whether to bring charges is “imminent.”

A hearing is underway in an Atlanta courtroom on whether to publicly release the special grand jury report. Willis, a Democrat, opposes the release, citing her ongoing deliberations on charges.

“Decisions are imminent,” Willis told Judge Robert McBurney.

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“We want to make sure that everyone is treated fairly, and we think for future defendants to be treated fairly it’s not appropriate at this time to have this report released,” she said.

The special grand jury, barred from issuing indictments, penned the highly anticipated final report as a culmination of its seven months of work, which included interviewing witnesses from Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to former Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani.

Its final report is likely to include some summary of the panel’s investigative work, as well as any recommendations for indictments and the alleged conduct that led the panel to its conclusions.

Donald Wakeford, Fulton County’s chief senior assistant district attorney, also argued to the judge that it would be “dangerous” to release the report before any announcement related to possible charges is made.

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“We think immediately releasing before the district attorney has even had an opportunity to address publicly whether there will be charges or not – because there has not been a meaningful enough amount of time to assess it – is dangerous,” Wakeford said. “It’s dangerous to the people who may or may not be named in the report for various reasons. It’s also a disservice to the witnesses who came to the grand jury and spoke the truth to the grand jury.”

Atlanta-area prosecutors are already poring over the report as they weigh whether to bring charges against Trump or his associates.

McBurney, who oversaw the special grand jury’s roughly seven-month investigation, will decide whether the report should be released publicly and, if so, how much of it. While the panel of grand jurors recommended its report be made public, so far, the contents have been closely held.

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Attorneys for Trump are not participating in Tuesday’s hearing.

“The grand jury compelled the testimony of dozens of other, often high-ranking, officials during the investigation, but never found it important to speak with the President,” Trump attorneys Drew Findling, Marissa Goldberg and Jennifer Little said in a statement. “Therefore, we can assume that the grand jury did their job and looked at the facts and the law, as we have, and concluded there were no violations of the law by President Trump.”

The path to indictments

The Georgia probe began soon after Trump phoned Raffensperger in January 2021, pressing the secretary of state to “find” the votes necessary for Trump to win the state. He lost the state to Joe Biden by nearly 12,000 votes.

“Our vote is as important as anyone else,” Willis told CNN in a 2022 interview. “If someone takes that away or violates it in a way that is criminal, because I sit here in this jurisdiction it’s my responsibility.”

Willis requested a special grand jury to investigate the case and the panel began its work in June 2022, calling a roster of witnesses that included Raffensperger, Giuilani, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham.

Over time, the investigation has expanded well beyond the Trump call to include false claims of election fraud to state lawmakers, the fake elector scheme, efforts by unauthorized individuals to access voting machines in one Georgia county and threats and harassment against election workers.

Along the way, Willis has designated a number of people as targets of her probe, including 16 Republicans who served as pro-Trump electors in 2020 and Giuliani.

But how much of that makes it into the final report was up to the special grand jurors.

“It’s important for people to know that the prosecutor’s office does not write the presentment, traditionally,” James said. “It literally is the will of the people.”

Now that Willis has the special grand jury’s report, it’s up to her to decide whether to go to a regular grand jury to pursue indictments. She’s not required to follow the exact recommendations laid out by the special grand jury, but its work product is likely to eventually become public and she could risk backlash if she runs too far afield of the panel’s suggestions.

Willis has previously said she could pursue Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) charges in this case, which would allow prosecutors to bring charges against multiple defendants and make the case that Trump and his allies were part of a criminal enterprise.

Whatever her approach, she’s likely to face pressure to move expeditiously with indictments or close her investigation.

The level of pressure is “all encompassing,” said James, who predicted Willis would marshal her resources and get her case trial-ready before she seeks any indictments.

“The spotlight is hot,” James said. “You can’t afford to lose a case like this right?”

Prior special grand jury reports offer hints of what to expect

Prior special grand jury reports have laid out a narrative of the panel’s investigation and concluded with recommendations.

The 2013 special grand jury James worked with issued a roughly 80-page report, but it was only released publicly after a months-long court fight.

The DeKalb County panel’s investigative summary referenced testimony and documents provided to the grand jury. Tacked on to the end of the report was a list of all the witnesses who appeared. The grand jurors ultimately referred one person for indictment – who fought the report’s public release – and nearly a dozen others for further investigation, laying out the infractions in each case that led them to their conclusions. They also recommended a variety of government reforms.

A 2010 report from a special grand jury in Gwinnett County summarized its investigative activity surrounding local land acquisition deals and indicted one public official, though the indictment was later overturned when a court ruled that special grand juries could not issue indictments.

MichiganSteve

THE FIELD

It'll be shocking if justice ever catches up with him.  He's a master at legal delays and any edge the legal system gives him.  

mickeyrat

https://apnews.com/article/trump-investigation-georgia-prosecutor-0c62d7884f0150c93f5e555333ae23d2

 

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Trump investigations: Georgia prosecutor ups anticipation

By KATE BRUMBACK and ERIC TUCKER

Today

ATLANTA (AP) — Former President Donald Trump and his allies have been put on notice by a prosecutor, but the warning didn’t come from anyone at the Justice Department.

It was from a Georgia prosecutor who indicated she was likely to seek criminal charges soon in a two-year election subversion probe. In trying to block the release of a special grand jury’s report, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis argued in court last week that decisions in the case were “imminent” and that the report’s publication could jeopardize the rights of “future defendants.”

Though Willis, a Democrat, didn't mention Trump by name, her comments marked the first time a prosecutor in any of several current investigations tied to the Republican former president has hinted that charges could be forthcoming. The remarks ratcheted anticipation that an investigation focused, in part, on Trump's call with Georgia's secretary of state could conclude before ongoing federal probes.

“I expect to see indictments in Fulton County before I see any federal indictments,” said Clark Cunningham, a Georgia State University law professor.

Besides the Georgia inquiry, a Justice Department special counsel is investigating Trump over his role in working with allies to overturn his loss in the 2020 presidential election and his alleged mishandling of classified documents.

Trump had appeared to face the most pressing legal jeopardy from the probe into a cache of classified materials at his Florida resort, and that threat remains. But that case seems complicated, at least politically, by the recent discovery of classified records at President Joe Biden’s Delaware home and at a Washington office. The Justice Department tapped a separate special counsel to investigate that matter.

Willis opened her office’s investigation shortly after the release of a recording of a Jan. 2, 2021, phone call between Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. In that conversation, the then-president suggested that Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, could “find” the votes needed to overturn Trump’s narrow election loss in the state to Biden, a Democrat.

“All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have,” Trump said on the call.

Since then, the investigation’s scope has broadened considerably, encompassing among other things: a slate of Republican fake electors, phone calls by Trump and others to Georgia officials in the weeks after the 2020 election, and unfounded allegations of widespread election fraud made to state lawmakers.

In an interview, Trump insisted he did “absolutely nothing wrong” and that his phone call with Raffensperger was “perfect.” He said he felt “very confident” that he would not be indicted.

“She’s supposed to be stopping violent crime, and that’s her job,” Trump said of Willis. “Not to go after people for political reasons, that did things absolutely perfectly.”

It is unclear how Willis' case will impact the Justice Department's probes or what contact her team has had with federal investigators. Justice Department prosecutors have been circumspect in discussing their investigations, offering little insight into how or when they might end.

But Willis' comments indicate that the Georgia investigation is on a path toward resolution — with charges or not — on a timetable independent of what the Justice Department is planning to do, legal experts said.

Cunningham, the Georgia State professor, said that Willis’ comments implied that the special grand jury’s report contained detail about people who the panel and Wills believe should, at minimum, be further investigated.

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“She wouldn’t be talking about the release of the report creating prejudice to potential future defendants unless she saw in the report peoples’ names who she saw as potential future defendants,” he added.

Attorney General Merrick Garland in November tapped Jack Smith, a former public corruption prosecutor, to act as special counsel overseeing investigations into Trump’s actions leading up to the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot and into his possession of hundreds of classified documents at the Mar-a-Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida.

Though Smith and his team of prosecutors have issued grand jury subpoenas, he has not revealed when his investigation might conclude or who might be a target.

Garland has declined to discuss the probes, saying only that “no person is above the law” and that there aren’t separate rules for Democrats and Republicans.

FBI agents recently searched Biden's Wilmington, Delaware, home, finding six items containing classified documents, the White House said. Further muddling the Justice Department’s calculus: Classified records were found this month at the Indiana home of Trump's vice president, Mike Pence.

Public disclosures about Willis’ case are the result, to some degree, of the unusual nature of the Georgia proceedings.

Willis in January of last year sought to convene a special grand jury to help her investigation, citing the need for its subpoena power to compel the testimony of witnesses who otherwise wouldn’t talk to her. She said in a letter to Fulton County’s chief judge that her office had received information indicating a “reasonable probability” that the 2020 election in Georgia “was subject to possible criminal disruptions.”

The county’s superior court judges voted to grant the request, and the panel was seated in May. The grand jurors heard from 75 witnesses and reviewed evidence collected by prosecutors and investigators. Among the witnesses who testified were former New York mayor and Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and such Georgia state officials as Raffensperger and Gov. Brian Kemp.

The panel lacked the authority to issue an indictment, but its report is presumed to include recommendations for further action, possibly including potential criminal charges.

The special grand jury was dissolved earlier this month after wrapping up its work and finalizing a report on its investigation. The grand jurors recommended the report be made public.

News organizations, including The Associated Press, argued for the report to be released. At a hearing last week, Willis said that a decision was looming on whether to seek an indictment and that she opposed releasing the report because she wanted to ensure “that everyone is treated fairly and we think for future defendants to be treated fairly, it is not appropriate at this time to have this report released."

Attorneys for witnesses and others identified as targets have insisted that Willis is driven by politics rather than by legitimate concerns that crimes were committed. Among other things, they pointed to her public statements and initial willingness to speak to print and television news outlets.

Danny Porter, a Republican who served as district attorney in neighboring Gwinnett County for nearly three decades, said Willis has been navigating unfamiliar territory. Special grand juries are relatively rare in Georgia, and the law doesn’t provide much guidance for prosecutors, he said.

Even so, Porter said, it appeared Willis had not crossed any ethical or legal red lines that would call into question the integrity of the investigation.

“Procedurally,” he said, “I haven’t seen anything that made me go, ‘Oh, jeez, I wouldn’t have done that.’”

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Tucker reported from Washington. AP writer Meg Kinnard in Columbia, South Carolina, contributed to this report.