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  • shadowcast
    shadowcast Posts: 2,336
    edited January 7
    tbergs said:
    shadowcast said:
    Go Beavers said:
    shadowcast said:
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    The troll bots are everywhere 
    Nowhere to be found for most of the last four years too, for most of these. Truly remarkable. 
    Because all the facts are coming out. From Biden being touted around that he is fine. To the FBI having 26 informants there on Jan 6th with most of them participating and stoking the riot. From al the BS with COVID that the left continued to push for 2 years after the initial spread. This war in Ukraine we provoked. To the Biden administration suppressing free speech on Twitter. Its like all the things PJ taught us to stand up against yet all of you just fall in line. It's shameful. 
    Playing the Pearl Jam morality card seems desperate. 
    I don't even know what that means. Here am I presenting facts while you just fu fu them like ahhhh nothing to see here...Its truly unbelievable. 
    Your comprehension of facts seems to be holding you back. The stuff you're posting isn't the a-ha evidence you think.

    1. Against elites - Then you must be livid that Trump is assembling the richest, most elite cabinet ever
    By party of elites I'm talking about the Democratic party as a whole. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/11/04/trump-vs-harris-fundraising-race-harris-outraised-trump-3-to-1-with-last-pre-election-report/


    2. Biden is corrupt - If so, how is Trump different? How much money did he make off his properties and personal family business deals the last time?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newly-released-pictures-show-joe-biden-meeting-hunter-biden-s-chinese-business-partners/ar-AA1wDkVZ

    3. Biden's health was covered up - Uh, hello? Look at the incoming president. Picture of fitness and cognitive excellence, eh? People on all sides were complaining about Biden for months. He's definitely aged, but his cognitive function seems a lot better than Trump. Yelling nonsense loudly doesn't mean healthy or well.

    For months? Bidens health was on full display when he took office. People were calling this out for years.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/doctors-reveal-hidden-warning-signs-about-bidens-health-you-missed/ss-BB1qBtDe#image=1


    4. Ukraine war - The US didn't start it and doesn’t have troops on the ground. What's your solution, let Russia have parts/all of Ukraine? 

    https://www.theinteldrop.org/2024/12/12/putin-the-minsk-accords-and-the-wests-gambit-a-detailed-analysis/

    https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Why-America-Overthrew-Democratically-Elected-Government-in-Ukraine

    5. J6 - FBI CIs are not acting on behalf of the FBI or federal government. You seem to know little about why LE has CIs or what they do. Most of them are criminals or tied to criminals/criminal behavior already. I worked with several in my LE days and you made them think you were their friend, but they're all fucking whack jobs that you can't control.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1gc9Desq1w



    6. Free Speech - How was the free speech of anyone infringed on by private companies moderating lies and dangerously inaccurate information? Are you saying that companies/businesses shouldn't be able to enforce usage terms to use their product or be on their property? 
     Are you serious with this one? This is called freedom of SPEECH!!!!

    https://twitterfiles.substack.com/p/1-thread-the-twitter-files



    I asked yesterday and didn't get an answer so I'll ask again, where are you getting your news from? You claimed we're the sheep and should do our own research. What does that entail?

    I put all my sources above below your questions. 
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  • shecky
    shecky San Francisco Posts: 2,651

    The woman who was heinously burned alive in a New York City subway car last week has been identified as a 61-year-old woman from New Jersey, Fox News Digital has learned.

    Police tell Fox News Digital the woman has been identified as Debrina Kawam of Toms River, a township and coastal town located on the Jersey Shore in Ocean County. Kawam was lit on fire and burned to death on a subway train in Brooklyn, New York, on Dec. 22.

    Officials were unable to identify Kawam's body for days after the attack because she was so severely burned. The NYPD did not provide an official cause of death.

    stillwell-nypd-officer

    Police investigate at the Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue Station in Brooklyn after a woman aboard a subway car was set on fire and died in New York, United States on Dec. 22, 2024. Police believe the woman had been sleeping aboard the train when a man approached her and set her on fire. She was pronounced dead at the scene. (Photo by Kyle Mazza/Anadolu via Getty Images)

    SANCTUARY CITY NEW YORK PRESSURED TO MAKE DRASTIC CHANGE AFTER ILLEGAL MIGRANT ALLEGEDLY BURNS WOMAN ALIVE

    The homeless non-profit Coalition for the Homeless previously stated that the victim may have been homeless at the time of her death. Police were unable to confirm if she was homeless.

    Sebastian Zapeta, 33, a previously deported immigrant from Guatemala, was arrested hours after the horrific incident which shocked the nation. 

    H⁠⁠e's been indicted on one count of murder in the first degree, three counts of murder in the second degree and one count of arson in relation to the horrific case. 

    CRITICS WARN OF 'DANIEL PENNY EFFECT’ AFTER WOMAN BURNED ALIVE ON NYC SUBWAY CAR AS BYSTANDERS WATCHED

    Surveillance video of the attack showed the suspect approaching the woman, who was sitting motionless and may have been sleeping, while aboard a stationary F train at the Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue subway station and then setting her on fire.

    Police say Zapeta used a lighter to ignite the victim’s clothing, which became fully engulfed in a matter of seconds.

    The suspect then stayed on the scene and sat on a bench just outside the train car, as officers and a transit worker extinguished the flames. The victim was pronounced dead at the scene.

    Zapeta faces life without the possibility of parole on the murder in the first-degree charge, while second-degree murder carries 25 years to life, Brooklyn District Attorney Eric Gonzalez said earlier this week.

    "This was malicious. A sleeping, vulnerable woman on our subway system," Gonzalez added. "This act surprised many New Yorkers as they were getting ready to celebrate the holidays but now New Yorkers are waking up and understanding that on the 22nd of this year, this happened. This was intentional and we hope to prove this."

    New York City Mayor Eric Adams' office tells Fox News Digital that the mayor has directed the NYPD and ICE’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) team to explore criminal charges against Zapeta under the federal arson statute.

    Zapeta was apprehended by Border Patrol and subsequently deported by the Trump administration on June 7, 2018, after he crossed illegally into Sonoita, Arizona, a week prior, ICE spokesperson Jeff Carter tells Fox News. Zapeta later re-entered the U.S. illegally on an unknown date and location, Carter said. 


    SAY HER NAME, JOE BIDEN!

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,655
    edited January 7
    shadowcast said:
    brianlux said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    The troll bots are everywhere 

    A Moving Troll Bot Train.
    How did we find ourselves here, LOL. 
    They want to turn it into a dumpster fire.  Just ignore them and they will get bored and go away. 
    I am not a BOT...I have seen PJ 50x and my political views have changed becasue the Left have become the party of elites. Along with being war mongering pricks. 

    I never said you were. 
    And since you didn't refer specifically to me, I'll assume you are not targeting me with name-calling some people "elites" and "pricks".  See how that works?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    edited January 7
    shadowcast said:
    josevolution said:
    Crying 😂😂 🍊fuckface has literally been crying foul for the last 5 years and his cult invaded the Capitol and beat cops with American & cult flags, because fuckface was not happy about losing the election! So don’t even try to say we are crying about this election! You don’t see any democrats or Biden or KH imploring folks to go to the capitol and beat up cops were better than the MAGA crowd! 
    Oh really? Facts hurt sometimes. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/doj-watchdog-says-fbi-had-26-confidential-sources-in-dc-for-jan-6-riot-but-no-evidence-of-undercover-agents/ar-AA1vKWiK

    none had permission to break the law.

    this has been posted and discussed. in the appropriate thread.

    remember,  be best. again.
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    edited January 7
    shecky said:
    mickeyrat said:
    shecky said:


    and this is a problem , why?
    At least you agree that Biden is not running his own administration. That's progress!

    the holiday for mourning is a problem , why?
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    seems an important fact here

    Zapeta later re-entered the U.S. illegally on an unknown date and location, Carter said.
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  • Hawk123
    Hawk123 Posts: 2,367
    edited January 7
    It’s funny how the Magats have such high morals after they voted a rapist into office, who nominated a pedophile rapist for AG. Now they try grasping at straws to paint Biden, who they refer to as a vegetable, as the most corrupt president ever. 

    If you honestly believe Trump is going to be life changing for the better, sit tight, come back and say I told you so when it happens. I don’t see it happening but we’ll see. Go listen to some music, get off Twitter and have a happy new year
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,393
    edited January 7
    mickeyrat said:
    shadowcast said:
    josevolution said:
    Crying 😂😂 🍊fuckface has literally been crying foul for the last 5 years and his cult invaded the Capitol and beat cops with American & cult flags, because fuckface was not happy about losing the election! So don’t even try to say we are crying about this election! You don’t see any democrats or Biden or KH imploring folks to go to the capitol and beat up cops were better than the MAGA crowd! 
    Oh really? Facts hurt sometimes. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/doj-watchdog-says-fbi-had-26-confidential-sources-in-dc-for-jan-6-riot-but-no-evidence-of-undercover-agents/ar-AA1vKWiK

    none had permission to break the law.

    this has been posted and discussed. in the appropriate thread.

    remember,  be best. again.
    Must be a new conscript to the RU bot troll farm
    Post edited by Kat on
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,520
    edited January 7
    There's a lot of unrelated bickering but the fact remains that Biden's condition was very apparent for a very long time. There were videos you could see and hear with your own eyes and ears but if you brought that point up on these very forums, for example, you'd be swarmed by many of these same posters (and mods) insisting he was fine. Cheapfakes and all that.

    I'm sure we will finally plumb the depths of what consequences this had over the next year or two. Regardless, it exposes a lot of people as overly credulous rubes or boldfaced liars. Not great when you're trying to win elections or generally persuade others.
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,537
    edited January 7
    pjl44 said:
    There's a lot of unrelated bickering but the fact remains that Biden's condition was very apparent for a very long time. There were videos you could see and hear with your own eyes and ears but if you brought that point up on these very forums, for example, you'd be swarmed by many of these same posters (and mods) insisting he was fine. Cheapfakes and all that.

    I'm sure we will finally plumb the depths of what consequences this had over the next year or two. Regardless, it exposes a lot of people as overly credulous rubes or boldfaced liars. Not great when you're trying to win elections or generally persuade others.
    And what do you say about the people who can point out Biden’s poor cognitive functioning along with Trump’s? 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,988
    edited January 7
    Wow, our POTUS acted his age, as opposed to exhibit B. Now, tell us how you felt about Ronny rayguns drooling on himself before he rode off into the sunset.

    The confidence was in who Brandon surrounded himself with. I am fine with whoever it was running the government, albeit I still think it was Sleepy Woke Joe, because of where we are and what was accomplished. Sure,  he was sleepy and liked things prepared and simplified and to the point. Whether he articulated it or someone else carried it through doesn’t matter to me because it’s still a shit ton better than an asshole shit posting on twatter all night and watching tv most of the morning and drawing pictures on a hurricane map with a sharpie. And you POOTWH’ers still think POOTWH is of sound mind after witnessing “they’re eating the dogs. They’re eating the cats. Of the people that live there.” You’re trusting that with the nuclear codes?

    Furthermore, y’all act as if you never seen Shark Tank where you have 5 minutes to pitch your product or been in a C suite where everything is expected to be explained in 3-5 bullet points. This coming from the attention deficit generation is hilarious.

    POOTWH is way too old and smelly and should resign now.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:
    seems an important fact here

    Zapeta later re-entered the U.S. illegally on an unknown date and location, Carter said.
    Why didn’t the wall stop him?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    And FJB, am I right?


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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And FJB, am I right?


    yes fuck you brandon.... feeble old fuck.



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  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    edited January 7
    pjl44 said:
    There's a lot of unrelated bickering but the fact remains that Biden's condition was very apparent for a very long time. There were videos you could see and hear with your own eyes and ears but if you brought that point up on these very forums, for example, you'd be swarmed by many of these same posters (and mods) insisting he was fine. Cheapfakes and all that.

    I'm sure we will finally plumb the depths of what consequences this had over the next year or two. Regardless, it exposes a lot of people as overly credulous rubes or boldfaced liars. Not great when you're trying to win elections or generally persuade others.
    Nailed it….careful thou, this  type of honesty may hurt some feelings on here…
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,306
    edited January 7
    lindamarie73 said:
    pjl44 said:
    There's a lot of unrelated bickering but the fact remains that Biden's condition was very apparent for a very long time. There were videos you could see and hear with your own eyes and ears but if you brought that point up on these very forums, for example, you'd be swarmed by many of these same posters (and mods) insisting he was fine. Cheapfakes and all that.

    I'm sure we will finally plumb the depths of what consequences this had over the next year or two. Regardless, it exposes a lot of people as overly credulous rubes or boldfaced liars. Not great when you're trying to win elections or generally persuade others.
    Nailed it….careful thou, this  type of honesty may hurt some feelings on here…
     doesn't need to be. consistently holding his position. doesnt denegrate or act childish toward others here. able to disagree without being an asshole about it.

    you know, civil civic discourse.

    Post edited by Kat on
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • lindamarie73
    lindamarie73 Posts: 491
    edited January 7
    mickeyrat said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    pjl44 said:
    There's a lot of unrelated bickering but the fact remains that Biden's condition was very apparent for a very long time. There were videos you could see and hear with your own eyes and ears but if you brought that point up on these very forums, for example, you'd be swarmed by many of these same posters (and mods) insisting he was fine. Cheapfakes and all that.

    I'm sure we will finally plumb the depths of what consequences this had over the next year or two. Regardless, it exposes a lot of people as overly credulous rubes or boldfaced liars. Not great when you're trying to win elections or generally persuade others.
    Nailed it….careful thou, this  type of honesty may hurt some feelings on here…
     doesn't need to be. consistently holding his position. doesnt denegrate or act childish toward others here. able to disagree without being an asshole about it.

    you know, civil civic discourse.

    Oh I see, So schooling people on what actually happened equates to being called an asshole…got it.    
    Be better…lol 
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,396
    edited January 7
    shadowcast said:
    tbergs said:
    shadowcast said:
    Go Beavers said:
    shadowcast said:
    The Juggler said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    The troll bots are everywhere 
    Nowhere to be found for most of the last four years too, for most of these. Truly remarkable. 
    Because all the facts are coming out. From Biden being touted around that he is fine. To the FBI having 26 informants there on Jan 6th with most of them participating and stoking the riot. From al the BS with COVID that the left continued to push for 2 years after the initial spread. This war in Ukraine we provoked. To the Biden administration suppressing free speech on Twitter. Its like all the things PJ taught us to stand up against yet all of you just fall in line. It's shameful. 
    Playing the Pearl Jam morality card seems desperate. 
    I don't even know what that means. Here am I presenting facts while you just fu fu them like ahhhh nothing to see here...Its truly unbelievable. 
    Your comprehension of facts seems to be holding you back. The stuff you're posting isn't the a-ha evidence you think.

    1. Against elites - Then you must be livid that Trump is assembling the richest, most elite cabinet ever
    By party of elites I'm talking about the Democratic party as a whole. https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2024/11/04/trump-vs-harris-fundraising-race-harris-outraised-trump-3-to-1-with-last-pre-election-report/

    Why is there so much money being spent on elections in general? Who appointed the SCOTUS judges ruling against people and enriching the elite and wealthy, again? The Roberts court opened this mess. In comparison which party wants to spend more on public services and access for the poor and middle class? Also, have you looked at the breakdown of both parties? They both spent over 1 billion dollars! Disgusting, but aren't those that gave to Harris going against their own self interests? I mean, which party wants to raise taxes on the wealthy and business? It isn't Trump. Which party appoints a majority of it's wealthiest supporters/donors to positions of power in their admin? You can't just point to who raised more, you have to dig in a bit more. If that's the case, you should be deeply concerned about Musk's role because he spent hundreds of millions and has full access to the WH. What democrat gave a billionaire their own department or let them have a seat at the table?

    https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2024-11-15/trump-harris-and-musk-how-money-did-and-didnt-affect-the-election

    2. Biden is corrupt - If so, how is Trump different? How much money did he make off his properties and personal family business deals the last time?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newly-released-pictures-show-joe-biden-meeting-hunter-biden-s-chinese-business-partners/ar-AA1wDkVZ

    None of this information is new. It was all there for the GOP committee to see. I don't doubt that Hunter Biden made money just because of his father. Nepotism and cronyism isn't anything new, but again, even if that is the case, what crime was committed? If there was clear criminal acts, why didn't the special counsel convene a grand jury, present an indictment or move forward with criminal prosecution? And if you believe there should be charges, why haven't charges been brought against Trump, Clinton or any other past or present politician for what could be presumed to be the same type of quid pro quo happening for self enrichment? You want to believe one thing when it confirms what you like, but then you ignore it when it doesn't.

    3. Biden's health was covered up - Uh, hello? Look at the incoming president. Picture of fitness and cognitive excellence, eh? People on all sides were complaining about Biden for months. He's definitely aged, but his cognitive function seems a lot better than Trump. Yelling nonsense loudly doesn't mean healthy or well.

    For months? Bidens health was on full display when he took office. People were calling this out for years.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/doctors-reveal-hidden-warning-signs-about-bidens-health-you-missed/ss-BB1qBtDe#image=1

    This isn't even a news link. It's a Daily Mail drivel speculation spectacular. Daily Mail is trash. I will not try and say Biden was in the best possible condition a president should be and by that last debate, it was clear he should not be president for another 4 years, but outside of that, he wasn't a bumbling mess who couldn't form sentences or speak to historical and current issues. You can for sure string together lots of video footage of him stuttering and looking old, dumb or incompetent, but I think that can be done with every president. How many hours of Trump do we have to wade through? There's probably less of Obama than most because he was a lot younger and at least a competent public speaker. Biden has never been good at public speaking and aging didn't do him any favors. Anyway, you should be able to agree about Biden's health deteriorating and also Trump's health/cognitive state being no better. You had an option without age and mental acuity issues though, since Biden dropped out, so I don't know how you can complain about Biden and support Trump.

    4. Ukraine war - The US didn't start it and doesn’t have troops on the ground. What's your solution, let Russia have parts/all of Ukraine? 

    https://www.theinteldrop.org/2024/12/12/putin-the-minsk-accords-and-the-wests-gambit-a-detailed-analysis/

    https://discover.hubpages.com/politics/Why-America-Overthrew-Democratically-Elected-Government-in-Ukraine

    Yeah, sorry, The Intel Drop?! Not a chance. Instead of pasting conspiratorial opinion propaganda from unnamed sources, looking for some in-depth investigative reporting and read it with an open mind. 

    5. J6 - FBI CIs are not acting on behalf of the FBI or federal government. You seem to know little about why LE has CIs or what they do. Most of them are criminals or tied to criminals/criminal behavior already. I worked with several in my LE days and you made them think you were their friend, but they're all fucking whack jobs that you can't control.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1gc9Desq1w

    Speculation based on the information at hand back in 2023. A lot has changed since then and this conspiracy should be dead, but it's hanging on thanks to people like you.

    https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-capitol-riot-fbi-justice-department-598b775804bdcef9cb065a67a4236033



    6. Free Speech - How was the free speech of anyone infringed on by private companies moderating lies and dangerously inaccurate information? Are you saying that companies/businesses shouldn't be able to enforce usage terms to use their product or be on their property? 
     Are you serious with this one? This is called freedom of SPEECH!!!!

    https://twitterfiles.substack.com/p/1-thread-the-twitter-files

    From the Constitution:

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    How was anyone's free speech violated?

    I asked yesterday and didn't get an answer so I'll ask again, where are you getting your news from? You claimed we're the sheep and should do our own research. What does that entail?

    I put all my sources above below your questions. 
    Thanks for sharing. This basically confirms that it's a reading comprehension obstacle and confirmation bias.
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  • mickeyrat
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    either arrogance. defensiveness or attacking others.

    nothing I have seen or believe I will see suggests anything like civil civc discourse.

    take heart, you arent unique or alone in that.
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    And FJB, am I right?


    yes fuck you brandon.... feeble old fuck.



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