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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    Not me 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,011
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    i'm not. only mace and a few others on here are.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    So you’re ok trusting him for another term? 
    Stating that taking bribes is not an official act of the president isn’t the same as I want trump for president.
    One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    So you’re ok trusting him for another term? 
    Stating that taking bribes is not an official act of the president isn’t the same as I want trump for president.
    One has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    i'm not. only mace and a few others on here are.
    Sorry. I didn't mean you. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,311
    edited July 2024
    Great great conversation yesterday on the bulwark podcast with Ben Wittes
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    edited July 2024
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
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  • curmudgeoness
    curmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,130
    mickeyrat said:
    Great great conversation yesterday on the bulwark podcast with Ben Wittes

    Ben Wittes also sent out a snarky Dogshirt Daily last night with "pranks" a President now could play thanks to immunity.

    I'll pause here to make a plug for The Bulwark. They're pretty centrist - center right, but the focus is on protecting democracy and keeping the orange menace out of the White House. They offer great writing, great podcasts, and an enthusiastic, civil, civic-minded community that ranges from pretty far left to center right. I'm a big fan and a supporter.
    All those who seek to destroy the liberties of a democratic nation ought to know that war is the surest and shortest means to accomplish it.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
    ok, but you were saying that responding to a quote about him having absolute power, not his racist jabs. moving the goal posts.
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    So we’re all assuming that the felon wins in November? 
    He gets stomped

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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
    That was me. All I said was I interpret his “they’re taking black jobs away” as meaning illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from black people. He likes to claim he had the lowest black unemployment in history. I still don’t think it was an inherently racism thing to say. Just my interpretation, most disagree. Doesn’t mean I support him because I interpret what he said differently.
  • mickeyrat
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
    That was me. All I said was I interpret his “they’re taking black jobs away” as meaning illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from black people. He likes to claim he had the lowest black unemployment in history. I still don’t think it was an inherently racism thing to say. Just my interpretation, most disagree. Doesn’t mean I support him because I interpret what he said differently.
    I didn't say you support him. I said you made an excuse for him.

    People have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for ten years and he's done absolutely nothing to earn it. So, I just don't understand it. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
    That was me. All I said was I interpret his “they’re taking black jobs away” as meaning illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from black people. He likes to claim he had the lowest black unemployment in history. I still don’t think it was an inherently racism thing to say. Just my interpretation, most disagree. Doesn’t mean I support him because I interpret what he said differently.
    I didn't say you support him. I said you made an excuse for him.

    People have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for ten years and he's done absolutely nothing to earn it. So, I just don't understand it. 
    ok, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm not saying what he said wasn't racist, however, just because a racist says something, doesn't inherently mean it's a racist statement. sometimes it comes from a place of supreme ignorance. I personally don't like painting every comment with a racist brush as then the painting starts to lose its meaning. 

    People like trump say stupid shit that sounds racist all the time but it doesn't necessarily mean it comes from a racist place. I've said things that were deemed racist in the very recent past (using the word aboriginal instead of indigenous, for example), so occasionally we need to use nuance when it comes to analyzing things like this. 

    we all know trump is a racist idiot. but sometimes he says things from the idiot place and not the racist place. 
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    Or blame the DNC for pushing Hillary who was unpopular with most people who had a pulse?

    Bernie lost fair and square primaries to Hillary and Biden. So being a sore loser seems to run par for the course. This culture of being a sore loser runs deep in the far left, as they boycotted and protest voted our nation into overturning Roe v Wade. I guess that showed the Democrats, as the far left cut off their nose to spite their face.

    The bottom line is if Al Gore and Hillary Clinton picked those justices, Roe v Wade would not be overturned by the SCOTUS. But instead we got stuck with GW Bush and Trump justices who are ideologically bent on overturning it, and lied their way into a position to do so. This is not the fault of the establishment Democrats. This is the fault of those that decided to spite the establishment on the far left, and were probably manipulated by Russian trolls on social media just like the Trumpers.

    Had Al Gore and Hillary Clinton picked those justices, we would not be having this conversation. We cannot move forward to build a stronger social safety net when the far left have empowered the far right to where they control the courts and are now chipping away at established rights moving us backwards.

    Until the far left admits their mistakes rather than doubling down on them, the overturning of Roe v Wade is just the beginning of the oppressive GOP state we will one day live under.

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    ...been thinking about this post (from 2022) a lot lately....
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
    That was me. All I said was I interpret his “they’re taking black jobs away” as meaning illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from black people. He likes to claim he had the lowest black unemployment in history. I still don’t think it was an inherently racism thing to say. Just my interpretation, most disagree. Doesn’t mean I support him because I interpret what he said differently.
    I didn't say you support him. I said you made an excuse for him.

    People have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for ten years and he's done absolutely nothing to earn it. So, I just don't understand it. 
    ok, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm not saying what he said wasn't racist, however, just because a racist says something, doesn't inherently mean it's a racist statement. sometimes it comes from a place of supreme ignorance. I personally don't like painting every comment with a racist brush as then the painting starts to lose its meaning. 

    People like trump say stupid shit that sounds racist all the time but it doesn't necessarily mean it comes from a racist place. I've said things that were deemed racist in the very recent past (using the word aboriginal instead of indigenous, for example), so occasionally we need to use nuance when it comes to analyzing things like this. 

    we all know trump is a racist idiot. but sometimes he says things from the idiot place and not the racist place. 
    Two great traits to possess as a president 
    Idiot
    Racist
    He will be the president again and then you can add Dictator to his resume 
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  • The Juggler
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    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
    That was me. All I said was I interpret his “they’re taking black jobs away” as meaning illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from black people. He likes to claim he had the lowest black unemployment in history. I still don’t think it was an inherently racism thing to say. Just my interpretation, most disagree. Doesn’t mean I support him because I interpret what he said differently.
    I didn't say you support him. I said you made an excuse for him.

    People have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for ten years and he's done absolutely nothing to earn it. So, I just don't understand it. 
    ok, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm not saying what he said wasn't racist, however, just because a racist says something, doesn't inherently mean it's a racist statement. sometimes it comes from a place of supreme ignorance. I personally don't like painting every comment with a racist brush as then the painting starts to lose its meaning. 

    People like trump say stupid shit that sounds racist all the time but it doesn't necessarily mean it comes from a racist place. I've said things that were deemed racist in the very recent past (using the word aboriginal instead of indigenous, for example), so occasionally we need to use nuance when it comes to analyzing things like this. 

    we all know trump is a racist idiot. but sometimes he says things from the idiot place and not the racist place. 
    Two great traits to possess as a president 
    Idiot
    Racist
    He will be the president again and then you can add Dictator to his resume 
    And people will continue giving him the benefit of the doubt over and over again...
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
    That was me. All I said was I interpret his “they’re taking black jobs away” as meaning illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from black people. He likes to claim he had the lowest black unemployment in history. I still don’t think it was an inherently racism thing to say. Just my interpretation, most disagree. Doesn’t mean I support him because I interpret what he said differently.
    I didn't say you support him. I said you made an excuse for him.

    People have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for ten years and he's done absolutely nothing to earn it. So, I just don't understand it. 
    ok, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm not saying what he said wasn't racist, however, just because a racist says something, doesn't inherently mean it's a racist statement. sometimes it comes from a place of supreme ignorance. I personally don't like painting every comment with a racist brush as then the painting starts to lose its meaning. 

    People like trump say stupid shit that sounds racist all the time but it doesn't necessarily mean it comes from a racist place. I've said things that were deemed racist in the very recent past (using the word aboriginal instead of indigenous, for example), so occasionally we need to use nuance when it comes to analyzing things like this. 

    we all know trump is a racist idiot. but sometimes he says things from the idiot place and not the racist place. 
    Two great traits to possess as a president 
    Idiot
    Racist
    He will be the president again and then you can add Dictator to his resume 
    And people will continue giving him the benefit of the doubt over and over again...
    They have no clue what’s in store.
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  • The Juggler
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    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    bootleg said:
    If one of the Presidents main official acts is to defend the constitution, can you not then basically do whatever you want if it’s behind the guise of defending the constitution?  If you considered the Supreme Court a threat to the constitution could you not then fire or arrest them?  Determine Trump is a threat to the constitution, have him arrested?  Biden won’t do any of these things because he believes in the institutions but Trump?  He’ll have no hesitation to abuse this.  It’s just another reckless ruling from this corrupted court.
    The president does not have absolute power. This ruling did not give him absolute power.
    Taking bribes and assassinating people for your own personal benefit is not official business. The president does not have authority to do those things, it would never be official business. Talking like this ruling will give a future president the ability to do such things is just absurd.
    until it happens.
    I cannot believe people are still giving Trump the benefit of the doubt after everything we have been through the last ten years. 
    literally no one is doing that. all I see is people operating under the assumption that the justice system will work just fine. 
    People literally are. Someone was making an excuse for his racist "black jobs" thing in another thread the other day. It's 2024. This is ridiculous. 
    That was me. All I said was I interpret his “they’re taking black jobs away” as meaning illegal immigrants are taking jobs away from black people. He likes to claim he had the lowest black unemployment in history. I still don’t think it was an inherently racism thing to say. Just my interpretation, most disagree. Doesn’t mean I support him because I interpret what he said differently.
    I didn't say you support him. I said you made an excuse for him.

    People have been giving him the benefit of the doubt for ten years and he's done absolutely nothing to earn it. So, I just don't understand it. 
    ok, I've said this before and I'll say it again. I'm not saying what he said wasn't racist, however, just because a racist says something, doesn't inherently mean it's a racist statement. sometimes it comes from a place of supreme ignorance. I personally don't like painting every comment with a racist brush as then the painting starts to lose its meaning. 

    People like trump say stupid shit that sounds racist all the time but it doesn't necessarily mean it comes from a racist place. I've said things that were deemed racist in the very recent past (using the word aboriginal instead of indigenous, for example), so occasionally we need to use nuance when it comes to analyzing things like this. 

    we all know trump is a racist idiot. but sometimes he says things from the idiot place and not the racist place. 
    Two great traits to possess as a president 
    Idiot
    Racist
    He will be the president again and then you can add Dictator to his resume 
    And people will continue giving him the benefit of the doubt over and over again...
    They have no clue what’s in store.
    Well, now, just hold on a minute here, feller. Let's take a beat for one second please.

    You see, sometimes, known blatant racists who have a 4+ decade history of saying and doing racist things may say new racist things but they may not have meant it to be racist because they're also a stupid person....so that racist thing he said was really just stupid and clearly not racist, henceforth we all should probably give him a pass. He's definitely earned it this time. 

    Hope folks can see how ridiculous this sounds because that is what is happening here. 
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