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Portland Protests

MelzombieMelzombie Posts: 123
edited September 20 in A Moving Train
I will be in Portland, Or in October and my parents are terrified of me going out there because of the protests and the wildfires.
Are the protests as bad as media is portraying it? They watch Fox News.. soo..... 
I figured I'd ask someone who lives there
What area should I stay out of to be safe? 
any tips? 
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 5,157
    Haven’t been there, but my guess is the protests are bad within a block or 2 at night. Avoid those blocks at night and you’re fine.
    Just my guess until someone with first hand info chimes in.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 8,054
    Portland??
    You better watch out for Antifa and MS-13 and SOCIALISTS their burning down the city



    In reality, which we know has a liberal bias, the protests are in and around a few blocks in the city.
    In theory, and with the fires dissipating, you should be fine.
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 23,895
    https://apple.news/AhhFEnokhQxeN8i5NspTUVQ
    Happy this racist gets 40 years to sit and think about his pathetic life! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,616
    https://apple.news/AhhFEnokhQxeN8i5NspTUVQ
    Happy this racist gets 40 years to sit and think about his pathetic life! 
    Interesting, sounds like anti-fascists were the heros here.
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,616

    Revealed: pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies

    Patriots Coalition members suggested political assassinations and said ‘laws will be broken, people will get hurt’, leaked chats show


    In advance of the 22 August protest, Melchi wrote: “It’s going to be bloody and most likely shooting, they’re definitely armed… so let’s make sure we have an organized direction of movement and direction of clearing or other Patriots will be caught in the possible cross fire. When shit hits the fan.”

    He advised other members to ignore weapons statutes, writing, “I saw someone say bats, mace, and stun guns are illegal downtown. If you’re going to play by the books tomorrow night, we already lost. We are here to make a change, laws will be broken, people will get hurt… It’s lawlessness downtown, and people need to be prepared for bad things.”

    Following these comments, several rightwing demonstrators were recorded using gas and bats on 22 August, where Melchi and his militia were also present.

    In other remarks ahead of the day, Melchi draws on what he claims is his group’s history of traveling to multiple states to engage in violence at protests.

    “My Group 1776 2.0. Has been fighting Antifa in Seattle, Portland, for months”, Melchi writes, adding “this won’t be a simple fist fight. People will get shot, stabbed and beat.”

    He also claims police cooperation in interstate violence, writing “Yes, going after them at night is the solution… Like we do in other states, tactical ambushes at night while backing up the police are key. You get the leaders and the violent ones and the police are happy to shut their mouths and cameras.”

    Melchi nevertheless recommends that members disguise themselves to avoid the consequences of homicide.

    “We must be ready to defend with lethal response… Suggest wearing mask and nothing to identify you on Camera…to prevent any future prosecution.”



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts?fbclid=IwAR0_J0mrNb8ULrQO2PkzYoUEMB70ZkGXk6Ne7_9DKiuJPESSkAFjFCuPCGk
  • dignin said:

    Revealed: pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies

    Patriots Coalition members suggested political assassinations and said ‘laws will be broken, people will get hurt’, leaked chats show


    In advance of the 22 August protest, Melchi wrote: “It’s going to be bloody and most likely shooting, they’re definitely armed… so let’s make sure we have an organized direction of movement and direction of clearing or other Patriots will be caught in the possible cross fire. When shit hits the fan.”

    He advised other members to ignore weapons statutes, writing, “I saw someone say bats, mace, and stun guns are illegal downtown. If you’re going to play by the books tomorrow night, we already lost. We are here to make a change, laws will be broken, people will get hurt… It’s lawlessness downtown, and people need to be prepared for bad things.”

    Following these comments, several rightwing demonstrators were recorded using gas and bats on 22 August, where Melchi and his militia were also present.

    In other remarks ahead of the day, Melchi draws on what he claims is his group’s history of traveling to multiple states to engage in violence at protests.

    “My Group 1776 2.0. Has been fighting Antifa in Seattle, Portland, for months”, Melchi writes, adding “this won’t be a simple fist fight. People will get shot, stabbed and beat.”

    He also claims police cooperation in interstate violence, writing “Yes, going after them at night is the solution… Like we do in other states, tactical ambushes at night while backing up the police are key. You get the leaders and the violent ones and the police are happy to shut their mouths and cameras.”

    Melchi nevertheless recommends that members disguise themselves to avoid the consequences of homicide.

    “We must be ready to defend with lethal response… Suggest wearing mask and nothing to identify you on Camera…to prevent any future prosecution.”



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts?fbclid=IwAR0_J0mrNb8ULrQO2PkzYoUEMB70ZkGXk6Ne7_9DKiuJPESSkAFjFCuPCGk
    Have they been added to CYA Barr’s DOJ domestic terrorist list yet?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 7,163
    dignin said:

    Revealed: pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies

    Patriots Coalition members suggested political assassinations and said ‘laws will be broken, people will get hurt’, leaked chats show


    In advance of the 22 August protest, Melchi wrote: “It’s going to be bloody and most likely shooting, they’re definitely armed… so let’s make sure we have an organized direction of movement and direction of clearing or other Patriots will be caught in the possible cross fire. When shit hits the fan.”

    He advised other members to ignore weapons statutes, writing, “I saw someone say bats, mace, and stun guns are illegal downtown. If you’re going to play by the books tomorrow night, we already lost. We are here to make a change, laws will be broken, people will get hurt… It’s lawlessness downtown, and people need to be prepared for bad things.”

    Following these comments, several rightwing demonstrators were recorded using gas and bats on 22 August, where Melchi and his militia were also present.

    In other remarks ahead of the day, Melchi draws on what he claims is his group’s history of traveling to multiple states to engage in violence at protests.

    “My Group 1776 2.0. Has been fighting Antifa in Seattle, Portland, for months”, Melchi writes, adding “this won’t be a simple fist fight. People will get shot, stabbed and beat.”

    He also claims police cooperation in interstate violence, writing “Yes, going after them at night is the solution… Like we do in other states, tactical ambushes at night while backing up the police are key. You get the leaders and the violent ones and the police are happy to shut their mouths and cameras.”

    Melchi nevertheless recommends that members disguise themselves to avoid the consequences of homicide.

    “We must be ready to defend with lethal response… Suggest wearing mask and nothing to identify you on Camera…to prevent any future prosecution.”



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts?fbclid=IwAR0_J0mrNb8ULrQO2PkzYoUEMB70ZkGXk6Ne7_9DKiuJPESSkAFjFCuPCGk
    Have they been added to CYA Barr’s DOJ domestic terrorist list yet?
    Proud Boys will be back in Portland holding an "End Domestic Terrorism" rally on Saturday. I'm sure in the course of their rally they'll commit further domestic terrorism and Trump won't say a thing about it. They were denied a permit, but plan to hold the rally anyway.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 8,616
    jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Revealed: pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies

    Patriots Coalition members suggested political assassinations and said ‘laws will be broken, people will get hurt’, leaked chats show


    In advance of the 22 August protest, Melchi wrote: “It’s going to be bloody and most likely shooting, they’re definitely armed… so let’s make sure we have an organized direction of movement and direction of clearing or other Patriots will be caught in the possible cross fire. When shit hits the fan.”

    He advised other members to ignore weapons statutes, writing, “I saw someone say bats, mace, and stun guns are illegal downtown. If you’re going to play by the books tomorrow night, we already lost. We are here to make a change, laws will be broken, people will get hurt… It’s lawlessness downtown, and people need to be prepared for bad things.”

    Following these comments, several rightwing demonstrators were recorded using gas and bats on 22 August, where Melchi and his militia were also present.

    In other remarks ahead of the day, Melchi draws on what he claims is his group’s history of traveling to multiple states to engage in violence at protests.

    “My Group 1776 2.0. Has been fighting Antifa in Seattle, Portland, for months”, Melchi writes, adding “this won’t be a simple fist fight. People will get shot, stabbed and beat.”

    He also claims police cooperation in interstate violence, writing “Yes, going after them at night is the solution… Like we do in other states, tactical ambushes at night while backing up the police are key. You get the leaders and the violent ones and the police are happy to shut their mouths and cameras.”

    Melchi nevertheless recommends that members disguise themselves to avoid the consequences of homicide.

    “We must be ready to defend with lethal response… Suggest wearing mask and nothing to identify you on Camera…to prevent any future prosecution.”



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts?fbclid=IwAR0_J0mrNb8ULrQO2PkzYoUEMB70ZkGXk6Ne7_9DKiuJPESSkAFjFCuPCGk
    Have they been added to CYA Barr’s DOJ domestic terrorist list yet?
    Proud Boys will be back in Portland holding an "End Domestic Terrorism" rally on Saturday. I'm sure in the course of their rally they'll commit further domestic terrorism and Trump won't say a thing about it. They were denied a permit, but plan to hold the rally anyway.
    Is irony the right word here?
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,700
    At least the OP now has all kinds of useful info...


  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 4,060
    At least the OP now has all kinds of useful info...


    There was zero chance of that happening, unfortunately 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,700
    nicknyr15 said:
    At least the OP now has all kinds of useful info...


    There was zero chance of that happening, unfortunately 
    Agreed...
  • jeffbr said:
    dignin said:

    Revealed: pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies

    Patriots Coalition members suggested political assassinations and said ‘laws will be broken, people will get hurt’, leaked chats show


    In advance of the 22 August protest, Melchi wrote: “It’s going to be bloody and most likely shooting, they’re definitely armed… so let’s make sure we have an organized direction of movement and direction of clearing or other Patriots will be caught in the possible cross fire. When shit hits the fan.”

    He advised other members to ignore weapons statutes, writing, “I saw someone say bats, mace, and stun guns are illegal downtown. If you’re going to play by the books tomorrow night, we already lost. We are here to make a change, laws will be broken, people will get hurt… It’s lawlessness downtown, and people need to be prepared for bad things.”

    Following these comments, several rightwing demonstrators were recorded using gas and bats on 22 August, where Melchi and his militia were also present.

    In other remarks ahead of the day, Melchi draws on what he claims is his group’s history of traveling to multiple states to engage in violence at protests.

    “My Group 1776 2.0. Has been fighting Antifa in Seattle, Portland, for months”, Melchi writes, adding “this won’t be a simple fist fight. People will get shot, stabbed and beat.”

    He also claims police cooperation in interstate violence, writing “Yes, going after them at night is the solution… Like we do in other states, tactical ambushes at night while backing up the police are key. You get the leaders and the violent ones and the police are happy to shut their mouths and cameras.”

    Melchi nevertheless recommends that members disguise themselves to avoid the consequences of homicide.

    “We must be ready to defend with lethal response… Suggest wearing mask and nothing to identify you on Camera…to prevent any future prosecution.”



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts?fbclid=IwAR0_J0mrNb8ULrQO2PkzYoUEMB70ZkGXk6Ne7_9DKiuJPESSkAFjFCuPCGk
    Have they been added to CYA Barr’s DOJ domestic terrorist list yet?
    Proud Boys will be back in Portland holding an "End Domestic Terrorism" rally on Saturday. I'm sure in the course of their rally they'll commit further domestic terrorism and Trump won't say a thing about it. They were denied a permit, but plan to hold the rally anyway.
    Is Team Trump Treason going to address them, turning it into a campaign rally?
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  • dignin said:

    Revealed: pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies

    Patriots Coalition members suggested political assassinations and said ‘laws will be broken, people will get hurt’, leaked chats show


    In advance of the 22 August protest, Melchi wrote: “It’s going to be bloody and most likely shooting, they’re definitely armed… so let’s make sure we have an organized direction of movement and direction of clearing or other Patriots will be caught in the possible cross fire. When shit hits the fan.”

    He advised other members to ignore weapons statutes, writing, “I saw someone say bats, mace, and stun guns are illegal downtown. If you’re going to play by the books tomorrow night, we already lost. We are here to make a change, laws will be broken, people will get hurt… It’s lawlessness downtown, and people need to be prepared for bad things.”

    Following these comments, several rightwing demonstrators were recorded using gas and bats on 22 August, where Melchi and his militia were also present.

    In other remarks ahead of the day, Melchi draws on what he claims is his group’s history of traveling to multiple states to engage in violence at protests.

    “My Group 1776 2.0. Has been fighting Antifa in Seattle, Portland, for months”, Melchi writes, adding “this won’t be a simple fist fight. People will get shot, stabbed and beat.”

    He also claims police cooperation in interstate violence, writing “Yes, going after them at night is the solution… Like we do in other states, tactical ambushes at night while backing up the police are key. You get the leaders and the violent ones and the police are happy to shut their mouths and cameras.”

    Melchi nevertheless recommends that members disguise themselves to avoid the consequences of homicide.

    “We must be ready to defend with lethal response… Suggest wearing mask and nothing to identify you on Camera…to prevent any future prosecution.”



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts?fbclid=IwAR0_J0mrNb8ULrQO2PkzYoUEMB70ZkGXk6Ne7_9DKiuJPESSkAFjFCuPCGk
    So these morons write about what they are going to do and follow through with it?
  • dignin said:

    Revealed: pro-Trump activists plotted violence ahead of Portland rallies

    Patriots Coalition members suggested political assassinations and said ‘laws will be broken, people will get hurt’, leaked chats show


    In advance of the 22 August protest, Melchi wrote: “It’s going to be bloody and most likely shooting, they’re definitely armed… so let’s make sure we have an organized direction of movement and direction of clearing or other Patriots will be caught in the possible cross fire. When shit hits the fan.”

    He advised other members to ignore weapons statutes, writing, “I saw someone say bats, mace, and stun guns are illegal downtown. If you’re going to play by the books tomorrow night, we already lost. We are here to make a change, laws will be broken, people will get hurt… It’s lawlessness downtown, and people need to be prepared for bad things.”

    Following these comments, several rightwing demonstrators were recorded using gas and bats on 22 August, where Melchi and his militia were also present.

    In other remarks ahead of the day, Melchi draws on what he claims is his group’s history of traveling to multiple states to engage in violence at protests.

    “My Group 1776 2.0. Has been fighting Antifa in Seattle, Portland, for months”, Melchi writes, adding “this won’t be a simple fist fight. People will get shot, stabbed and beat.”

    He also claims police cooperation in interstate violence, writing “Yes, going after them at night is the solution… Like we do in other states, tactical ambushes at night while backing up the police are key. You get the leaders and the violent ones and the police are happy to shut their mouths and cameras.”

    Melchi nevertheless recommends that members disguise themselves to avoid the consequences of homicide.

    “We must be ready to defend with lethal response… Suggest wearing mask and nothing to identify you on Camera…to prevent any future prosecution.”



    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/23/oregon-portland-pro-trump-protests-violence-texts?fbclid=IwAR0_J0mrNb8ULrQO2PkzYoUEMB70ZkGXk6Ne7_9DKiuJPESSkAFjFCuPCGk
    So these morons write about what they are going to do and follow through with it?
    When will CYA Barr add them to the domestic terrorist list and freeze their assets? Never mind.
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 5,769
    edited September 27
    Portland seemed relatively calm last night?  Was there any violent confrontation between the idiots?
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 4,060
    PJPOWER said:
    Portland seemed relatively calm last night?  Was there any violent confrontation between the idiots?
    No. I think it was Seattle’s turn last night 
  • I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 4,060
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    No way! It was the summer of love yo! 
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,616
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 13,223
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo FacePosts: 5,769
    nicknyr15 said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    No way! It was the summer of love yo! 
    Shouldn’t the “CHAZ” vegetable garden be ripe for harvest right about now?
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,616
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 13,223
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
    I don’t care what you have been told by Fox News or whomever.  The fact is there was a lot of looting and property damage nationwide, as well as a few instances like Portland and Seattle where neighborhoods have been taken over for a period of time.  The left ignored the fact that there are innocent residents and businesses that were left to fend for themselves.   Proving that a whole city didn’t burn down is great but you completely ignore the fact that people are being harmed by these lawless gatherings.
  • dignin said:
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
    I don’t care what you have been told by Fox News or whomever.  The fact is there was a lot of looting and property damage nationwide, as well as a few instances like Portland and Seattle where neighborhoods have been taken over for a period of time.  The left ignored the fact that there are innocent residents and businesses that were left to fend for themselves.   Proving that a whole city didn’t burn down is great but you completely ignore the fact that people are being harmed by these lawless gatherings.
    When did the freedom to assemble get outlawed or become lawless?
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 13,223
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
    I don’t care what you have been told by Fox News or whomever.  The fact is there was a lot of looting and property damage nationwide, as well as a few instances like Portland and Seattle where neighborhoods have been taken over for a period of time.  The left ignored the fact that there are innocent residents and businesses that were left to fend for themselves.   Proving that a whole city didn’t burn down is great but you completely ignore the fact that people are being harmed by these lawless gatherings.
    When did the freedom to assemble get outlawed or become lawless?
    So a group didn’t take over a neighborhood in Seattle or there hasn’t been looting and destruction of property in Portland?  Okay.
  • dignin said:
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
    I don’t care what you have been told by Fox News or whomever.  The fact is there was a lot of looting and property damage nationwide, as well as a few instances like Portland and Seattle where neighborhoods have been taken over for a period of time.  The left ignored the fact that there are innocent residents and businesses that were left to fend for themselves.   Proving that a whole city didn’t burn down is great but you completely ignore the fact that people are being harmed by these lawless gatherings.
    When did the freedom to assemble get outlawed or become lawless?
    So a group didn’t take over a neighborhood in Seattle or there hasn’t been looting and destruction of property in Portland?  Okay.
    You characterized them as “lawless gatherings.” Gatherings in and of themselves are not lawless nor have they been outlawed. The freedom to assemble is protected by 1A, which comes before the 2A. That some knuckle heads like right wing terrorist Umbrella Man commit unlawful acts doesn’t make the gatherings “lawless.” Anyway, good to know people still think Seattle has fallen.

    And I never said either of the two things you pointed out, I just took issue with your characterization. It’s how your, general your, individual rights get eroded.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 13,223
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
    I don’t care what you have been told by Fox News or whomever.  The fact is there was a lot of looting and property damage nationwide, as well as a few instances like Portland and Seattle where neighborhoods have been taken over for a period of time.  The left ignored the fact that there are innocent residents and businesses that were left to fend for themselves.   Proving that a whole city didn’t burn down is great but you completely ignore the fact that people are being harmed by these lawless gatherings.
    When did the freedom to assemble get outlawed or become lawless?
    So a group didn’t take over a neighborhood in Seattle or there hasn’t been looting and destruction of property in Portland?  Okay.
    You characterized them as “lawless gatherings.” Gatherings in and of themselves are not lawless nor have they been outlawed. The freedom to assemble is protected by 1A, which comes before the 2A. That some knuckle heads like right wing terrorist Umbrella Man commit unlawful acts doesn’t make the gatherings “lawless.” Anyway, good to know people still think Seattle has fallen.

    And I never said either of the two things you pointed out, I just took issue with your characterization. It’s how your, general your, individual rights get eroded.
    Did I not just say that whole cities haven’t burned down?  I was talking about neighborhoods and sections of town.  I never said Seattle has fallen.  

    I said lawless gatherings not lawless protests.  

    You don’t realize that Trump’s sole hope of winning this election is that looting and property damage continues.  

    You are arguing with me like we aren’t on the same side.  It’s silly.  We both want Trump out. We both want fairness for all.  The difference is that I think the police should stop people from looting and destroying personal property and you seem to be okay with it as long as it doesn’t affect you and is only a few neighborhoods. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,616
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
    I don’t care what you have been told by Fox News or whomever.  The fact is there was a lot of looting and property damage nationwide, as well as a few instances like Portland and Seattle where neighborhoods have been taken over for a period of time.  The left ignored the fact that there are innocent residents and businesses that were left to fend for themselves.   Proving that a whole city didn’t burn down is great but you completely ignore the fact that people are being harmed by these lawless gatherings.
    I haven't ignored anything. I have posted numerous times about the rioting and looting. I just don't subscribe to the world is ending because of antifa bullshit that's spread for political gain. No cities have been destroyed. If you cared about facts you would challenge the uninformed here that repeat those lies. But instead you're challenging me for....well, I don't really know what for.

    I'm not the one falling for the BS.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 4,060
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
    Nice and comfortable, unaffected in another country. Must be nice to minimize any damage done. 
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,616
    nicknyr15 said:
    dignin said:
    dignin said:
    I thought Seattle had fallen? BOO!
    I heard it was destroyed. Whole damn city. Hope PJ got out.
    Just because a whole city wasn’t trashed doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem.  People live and work in some of these areas and weren’t protected by the police they were paying taxes for.  
    Wait, I've been told numerous times here that cities have been destroyed. Is that not true? Could it have been Trumpian hyperbole? Say it ain't so.
    Nice and comfortable, unaffected in another country. Must be nice to minimize any damage done. 
    Says the one who continues to spread lies that cities have been destroyed. Guess the media must be hiding all that destruction, it's a big conspiracy.
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