Alive V2

Pearjamfanno1Pearjamfanno1 Posts: 40
My friend just recently took the time to listen to Ten. He said it was wierd how theres a verse in Alive about incest, the verse...

Oh, she walks slowly, across a young mans room
She said Im ready...for you
I cant remember anything to this very day
cept the look, the look...
Oh, you know where, now I cant see, I just stare...

I was like 'what the hell are you talking about', id listened to this album for 3 years and never ever thought that verse in that way. So i go home and listen to Alive again and then check up the lyrics and was left thinking 'holy sh*t, has this verse got incestual connotations'.



So i need to settle this, is this a purely innocent verse or is there a hint of Incest?
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  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    thats because it is incestual...... the look, you know where refers to her pussy. the song is about his mother thinking he looks like his dead father. so she wants to fuck him.
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  • thats because it is incestual...... the look, you know where refers to her pussy. the song is about his mother thinking he looks like his dead father. so she wants to fuck him.

    wow never took it this literal. so do we know that ed really went through that whole battle with his mother?
    2006: Hartford
    2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
    2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
    2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
    2011: Ed Solo Hartford
    2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
    2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    wow never took it this literal. so do we know that ed really went through that whole battle with his mother?

    of course not, its just a song. but that is what its about.
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  • its part of their own "mini-opera"...

    listen to Alive...Part I
    then listen to Once...Part II
    and the final chapter...listen to Footsteps, it takes place in prison.
  • facemask wrote:
    its part of their own "mini-opera"...

    listen to Alive...Part I
    then listen to Once...Part II
    and the final chapter...listen to Footsteps, it takes place in prison.

    true. but ed always said alive was more personally based about him and his father issues.
    2006: Hartford
    2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
    2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
    2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
    2011: Ed Solo Hartford
    2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
    2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
  • Ed has also said he writes songs as stories bringing both personal experience together with fictional and explores the possibilites of life. Only he knows where the lines weave.

    It's also a trilogy...Alive, Once, Footsteps that carry on the story. Alive - the discovery of the father not his biological and his dad already dead, then the molustation. Once - because of all the shit he becomes a serial killer. Footsteps - convicted of his crimes.

    If I don't lose control
    explore and not explode
    a preternatural other plane
    with the power to maintain.

    Like a tear in all we know
    once dissolved, we are free to grow
    "What is human?,... What is more?"
    I'll answer this
    when I get home.
    Nothing divine dies. All good is eternally reproductive. The beauty of nature reforms itself in the mind, and not for barren contemplation, but for new creation. ~ Nature, Emerson
  • i think only the first verse of Alive is Eddie's past. the rest he made up.
  • vedderfan10vedderfan10 Posts: 2,497
    Also, sometimes live he sings "she said I'm ready...to fuck you"

    He used to say the song was hell for him...but then all the fans turned into a celabratory "I'm Still ALIVE" and, he saysm "the curse was lifted"...but yeah, he says the song is about him...except the incest part...but does say that his aunts were all.."Wow..he looks just like his good-looking father..." They would stare at him and give him knowing looks...
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  • "Everybody writes about it like it's a life-affirmation, thing -- I'm really glad about that," Vedder says with a rueful laugh. "It's a great interpretation. But 'Alive' is... it's torture. Which is why it's fucked up for me. Why I should probably learn how to sing another way. It would be easier. It's... it's too much."

    Vedder continues: "The story of the song is that a mother is with a father and the father dies. It's an intense thing because the son looks just like the father. The son grows up to be the father, the person that she lost. His father's dead, and now this confusion, his mother, his love, how does he love her, how does she love him? In fact, the mother, even though she marries somebody else, there's no one she's ever loved more than the father. You know how it is, first loves and stuff. And the guy dies. How could you ever get him back? But the son. He looks exactly like him. It's uncanny. So she wants him. The son is oblivious to it all. He doesn't know what the fuck is going on. He's still dealing, he's still growing up. He's still dealing with love, he's still dealing with the death of his father. All he knows is 'I'm still alive' -- those three words, that's totally out of burden."

    Elvis' "Suspicious Minds" blasts on the jukebox as Vedder continues. "Now the second verse is 'Oh she walks slowly into a young man's room... I can remember to this very day... the look... the look.' And I don't say anything else. And because I'm saying, 'The look, the look' everyone thinks it goes with 'on her face.' It's not on her face. The look is between her legs. Where do you go with that? That's where you came from."

    "But I'm still alive. I'm the lover that's still alive. And the whole conversation about 'You're still alive, she said' And his doubts: 'Do I deserve to be? Is that the question?' Because he's fucked up forever! So now he doesn't know how to deal with it. So what does he do, he goes out killing people -- that was [the song] 'Once.' He becomes a serial killer. And 'Footsteps,' the final song of the trilogy [it was released as a U.K. B side to 'Jeremy'], that's when he gets executed. That's what happens. The Green River killer... and in San Diego, there was another prostitute killer down there. Somehow I related to that. I think that happens more than we know. It's a modern way of dealing with a bad life."

    -Alluding to tie dye lady's comment:

    " It's also a trilogy...Alive, Once, Footsteps that carry on the story. Alive - the discovery of the father not his biological and his dad already dead, then the molustation. Once - because of all the shit he becomes a serial killer. Footsteps - convicted of his crimes."


    Rolling Stone 10/28/93
    Five Against the World
    by Cameron Crowe
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