my brother and (now ex)sisinlaw fell for this while down in florida. got in on a presentation for timeshares in exchange for 'vouchers' for disney tickets, dinner, whatever. they fell for it completely and ended up signing their lives away for 2 weeks each year in a condo.....for about $15,000.....which was payable in "easy installments"....for the rest of their fricken lives.
super stupid. some of the smartest people can be the dumbest. couldn't believe they didn't get what was happening to them at the time. but, at the very least, he signed his half away to her in the divorce. now her and her *new* husband are enjoying 2 weeks...each year...in a condo...for about $15,000....payable in easy installments...for the rest of *their* fricken lives.
keep your hands away from *any* writing instruments, good luck and watch your back!!
"Can I ask you a question?" (.....you just did.....)
As my girlfriend and I were walking down the lobby to get to our seats, we were stopped by a guy next to a stand that had been set up along the wall.
Being generally nice people, we stopped to hear what he had to say instead of breezing past him and ignoring him (as most people did).
Turns out he had a "tremendous opportunity" to offer us. In exchange for taking a tour of "the Welk Resort" (in Escondido, near San Diego), he was going to give us a free vacation package to Las Vegas, Catalina Island, or San Francisco, along with a voucher for $200 to buy tickets to any LiveNation show.
Sounded unbelievable, but after he gave us the rundown of how it all worked, we decided to sign up.
Now we have a tour set up for May 17. We know what the purpose on their part is -- they think that by giving us a 90-minute tour we're going to be unable to resist buying into a timeshare -- but we really have no desire to own a timeshare in a place we never visit, and never would even if we owned one. Plus, we don't have the money.
So it's going to be 90 minutes of ear torture listening to someone(s) use all kinds of persuasive techniques to try to get us to buy something we really don't want.
Of course, we could just not show up...but then we'd lose the vacation, voucher, and $30 deposit we had to put down.
Anybody else sign up for this at the show? Or, has anyone else ever done one of these "tours"? Are they as bad as I think this one will be?
Aargh...
I think I saw that same guy on The Simpsons at the weekend...
You know the episode where Bart and Homer are Grifters in order to fix Homer's car after a russian space station drop a gigantic fish on his car.... "Grifty McGriff"...
The guy that took your $30 and many other peoples' that night was the same man that stole Homer's car....
my brother and (now ex)sisinlaw fell for this while down in florida. got in on a presentation for timeshares in exchange for 'vouchers' for disney tickets, dinner, whatever. they fell for it completely and ended up signing their lives away for 2 weeks each year in a condo.....for about $15,000.....which was payable in "easy installments"....for the rest of their fricken lives.
super stupid. some of the smartest people can be the dumbest. couldn't believe they didn't get what was happening to them at the time. but, at the very least, he signed his half away to her in the divorce. now her and her *new* husband are enjoying 2 weeks...each year...in a condo...for about $15,000....payable in easy installments...for the rest of *their* fricken lives.
keep your hands away from *any* writing instruments, good luck and watch your back!!
yikes. that sucks!
good thing for me/us is that there is absolutely no possible way that i am going to buy (or sign) anything. i mean, seriously, the whole idea of a timeshare is idiotic to me. if they want to give me free money for listening to them for 90 minutes i am more than happy to do so, but the only way i would ever actually buy anything is if they drugged me up somehow.
i plan on telling them that right at the beginning, too.
thanks for the anecdote...it further confirms my resolve to take my free stuff and run.
Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
As my girlfriend and I were walking down the lobby to get to our seats, we were stopped by a guy next to a stand that had been set up along the wall.
Being generally nice people, we stopped to hear what he had to say instead of breezing past him and ignoring him (as most people did).
Turns out he had a "tremendous opportunity" to offer us. In exchange for taking a tour of "the Welk Resort" (in Escondido, near San Diego), he was going to give us a free vacation package to Las Vegas, Catalina Island, or San Francisco, along with a voucher for $200 to buy tickets to any LiveNation show.
Sounded unbelievable, but after he gave us the rundown of how it all worked, we decided to sign up.
Now we have a tour set up for May 17. We know what the purpose on their part is -- they think that by giving us a 90-minute tour we're going to be unable to resist buying into a timeshare -- but we really have no desire to own a timeshare in a place we never visit, and never would even if we owned one. Plus, we don't have the money.
So it's going to be 90 minutes of ear torture listening to someone(s) use all kinds of persuasive techniques to try to get us to buy something we really don't want.
Of course, we could just not show up...but then we'd lose the vacation, voucher, and $30 deposit we had to put down.
Anybody else sign up for this at the show? Or, has anyone else ever done one of these "tours"? Are they as bad as I think this one will be?
Aargh...
this reminds me of the King of Queens episode where Doug wanted a flat screen TV and they had to survive a weekend at a skii resort..hopefully you stick to saying no unlike he did..haha
PLEASE STEP AWAY from the TIMESHARE Salesman!!! OMG Look what you have gotten yourself and your WIFE into. If you couldn't say "NO" at the "get-go" (offer) then - by all means enjoy your NEW time share located in......does it matter?
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My brother in law does stuff like this all the time. Take what they give you for "free", then walk away.
Don't give into pressure!
If you feel you can't do that, take it as a $30 dollar life lesson.
Thank you fellow 10 clubber for saving my ass....again!!!
I thought of another way they could you besides being drugged. Don't pretend you're on some sitcom while going to the presentation. if you do, you will sign the papers despite your best efforts.
90 minutes is probably just the intro. Wait til hour 4 when you still haven't left. Just accept it as one of those lift lessons that cost you $30. Don't go!
I have been to several of these, mostly in ski areas. I like to do them on occasion because I am interested in seeing the insides of some of these new properties. They gave us 2 free lift tickets (about $70 each), $100 at a restaurant, and free lunch. We made our appointment at lunch during our free ski day. So we ski down, eat lunch, we are in our ski clothes, and we have the automatic out of 'got to get back to the slopes'. We took our tour, ate our lunch while listening to the young sales guy, then said no. He took it pretty well, minimal pressure, but then said one more minute and just let my manager ask a few questions. So this lady comes out and hits us for one last sales pitch. Then another guy comes out with a 'special' good only that day. We say 'we never buy anything without thinking about it overnight no matter what'. Not much they can say to that except try the 'this price is only good right now' pitch. We say 'sorry, that's our policy - gotta get back to the slopes'.
Marriott and several others have gotten into the timeshare business and somewhat 'legitmized' it. Some places, if you go there every year and the place is not overpriced, would not be a bad buy, EXCEPT for the yearly maintenance fee, which can add $800-1000 PER YEAR. Marriott was selling 2BR condos in Park City some years ago for about 19000 for a ski week. Considering Marriott rents those 2br condos for $300+ per night, not a bad deal until you throw in the maintenance fee, which also tends to rise over time.
So this is what it's like to be an adult.
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90 minutes is probably just the intro. Wait til hour 4 when you still haven't left. Just accept it as one of those lift lessons that cost you $30. Don't go!
That's why we plan on making it clear that we have an urgent appointment to go to after the presentation. There's no way they can hold us longer under that umbrella.
spinDRatl, thank you for the advice! "We never buy without thinking about it overnight" is a great line!
Someone else suggested "We never buy without discussing it with our accountant first."
Which is better?
Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
I think these are great bits of advice. Also, if you want to gear yourself up for the experience watch the episode of South Park where a bunch of people get a free weekend at a ski resort in exchange for listening to a 90 minute presentation of time-shares. It turns into a weekend from hell, but it is the funniest thing ever. After seeing the episode, it may help to imagine the sales people as the ones in the episode. They will loose their power.
The episode is from Season 6, and it is called Asspen.
They re-ran episode last week...funny. "King of Queens" also has a funny episode on this subject.
As for that particular spot, my folks stayed there last summer when they came out for my wedding and were pretty happy with it. My parents swear by the timeshare thing, and it's worked well for them, but they're a different breed than most. My wife's folks go to these talks all the time and they've never bought anything but have gotten loads of free trips, so if you're strong willed (her dad is among the most "steel-willed" men I know), you can make out fairly well.
Definitely don't dress up for the talk and grunge out as much as you can, that sends the clear signal of non-interest on your part. You may also want to start by informing the sales rep that it's in their best interest to make the presentation as quick and painless (for themselves) as possible right from the get go. Show absolutely no interest in the talk and look at your watch a lot. If it's a group meeting, bring your phone and start playing games, texting, or just surfing the web.
Warning: The "free" vacation will involve another pitch, so be wary of that one. It may be a fairly aggravating 2 hours or so, but on the upside, you'll only be 10 minutes from the new Stone Brewing Company's brewery, so you can at least get really awesome beer when you're done!
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No, $30 combined. It's so that the resort can be sure the persons actually show up. They have a very detailed schedule of times for these tours, so having people not show up would totally screw that up. (And, of course, there would be a TON of people who didn't show up if they didn't have to put any money down...)
It's a scam
to get your $ (which they've already done-of course that $30 is non-refundable)
and to get you to show up to market their deal to you.
"...like a word misplaced, nothing said, what a waste.."
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I told the guy who was doing the tour that we were only there to get the tickets and were not buying anything, so he could either make it hard or easy on himself and save all the bullshit.
He actually laughed and said, no problem - but I have to at least let the manager talk to you at the end.
When he brought over his "manager" I told him that I was not buying, regardless, and he shouldn't waste anymore of his (or my) time.
Just got back from the presentation and thought I'd let you all know how it went.
First off, I got a reminder call on Thursday evening and told the representative that we were undecided about whether we were going to make it (although I knew all along that we would, I thought I'd see if there was anything else free to be had). She offered me a pair of free Dodgers tickets if we would confirm our RSVP and show up. Cha-ching!
Fast forward to this morning. We woke up bright and early and headed down to Escondido. We arrived at the resort right on time and were immediately asked to sign in. We took a seat in the check-in room, enjoyed some of the complimentary breakfast, and in 15 minutes were summoned.
The woman who was going to ear-torture us was actually very hot. I mean, good looking. So that was a bonus.
She started off by asking us general questions about our lifestyles, etc. She was obviously trying to get a feel for what angles she could use to get us to buy something, but at least she was nice in doing so.
Now, a few days earlier, I was thinking of excuses to give for why we weren't going to buy anything, and the perfect answer popped into my head -- we may be losing our jobs. Actually, my girlfriend and I are both teachers, and Governor Schwarzenegger (I still can't believe he is our governor :( ) has recently cut the education budget by millions (forcing many schools to lay off teachers), so the excuse actually is not totally false. (Although we haven't actually been laid off, the possibility is still there).
Anyhow, a few minutes into the presentation, the perfect time to let her know of our unfortunate employment situation came up, and so I let her have the bad news. It was all a breeze from then on. Although she continued her sales pitch, her heart obviously wasn't into trying to sell something to a pair of teachers who were going to lose their jobs, so the pressure was off. All we had to say was that it was a bad time for us, and that it would be irresponsible for us to commit to buying ANYTHING with our jobs in limbo, and she didn't push too hard.
She did do the standard bringing of the "manager" in to make us the deal-of-a-lifetime at the end, but at that point she knew that she wasn't going to get anything out of us. After an hour and a half, the presentation was over and we went to pick up our gifts.
So...this was definitely a much easier and more pleasant experience than I thought it would be. In the end, we got a free trip to Catalina (boat and 1-night hotel room included), $200 dollars to spend on concert tickets (the only negative being that the tickets have to be purchased at the box office on the day of the show, and only at one-of-four venues...so obviously it can't be for any artist that's going to sell-out), and a pair of Dodgers tickets.
Thanks for everyone's advice and feedback...
Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
Glad you didn't end up as an attraction at the bottom of Catalina Bay for the glass-boat tours! But rule #1 in CA (Especially So Cal)...don't talk to anyone on the street!
Just got back from the presentation and thought I'd let you all know how it went.
First off, I got a reminder call on Thursday evening and told the representative that we were undecided about whether we were going to make it (although I knew all along that we would, I thought I'd see if there was anything else free to be had). She offered me a pair of free Dodgers tickets if we would confirm our RSVP and show up. Cha-ching!
Fast forward to this morning. We woke up bright and early and headed down to Escondido. We arrived at the resort right on time and were immediately asked to sign in. We took a seat in the check-in room, enjoyed some of the complimentary breakfast, and in 15 minutes were summoned.
The woman who was going to ear-torture us was actually very hot. I mean, good looking. So that was a bonus.
She started off by asking us general questions about our lifestyles, etc. She was obviously trying to get a feel for what angles she could use to get us to buy something, but at least she was nice in doing so.
Now, a few days earlier, I was thinking of excuses to give for why we weren't going to buy anything, and the perfect answer popped into my head -- we may be losing our jobs. Actually, my girlfriend and I are both teachers, and Governor Schwarzenegger (I still can't believe he is our governor :( ) has recently cut the education budget by millions (forcing many schools to lay off teachers), so the excuse actually is not totally false. (Although we haven't actually been laid off, the possibility is still there).
Anyhow, a few minutes into the presentation, the perfect time to let her know of our unfortunate employment situation came up, and so I let her have the bad news. It was all a breeze from then on. Although she continued her sales pitch, her heart obviously wasn't into trying to sell something to a pair of teachers who were going to lose their jobs, so the pressure was off. All we had to say was that it was a bad time for us, and that it would be irresponsible for us to commit to buying ANYTHING with our jobs in limbo, and she didn't push too hard.
She did do the standard bringing of the "manager" in to make us the deal-of-a-lifetime at the end, but at that point she knew that she wasn't going to get anything out of us. After an hour and a half, the presentation was over and we went to pick up our gifts.
So...this was definitely a much easier and more pleasant experience than I thought it would be. In the end, we got a free trip to Catalina (boat and 1-night hotel room included), $200 dollars to spend on concert tickets (the only negative being that the tickets have to be purchased at the box office on the day of the show, and only at one-of-four venues...so obviously it can't be for any artist that's going to sell-out), and a pair of Dodgers tickets.
Thanks for everyone's advice and feedback...
Nice!! Hook me up with the info on this place please! I've been in California ten years now and have still never been to Catalina - and Dodgers tickets wouldn't hurt either...
Nice!! Hook me up with the info on this place please! I've been in California ten years now and have still never been to Catalina - and Dodgers tickets wouldn't hurt either...
so all you got was the catalina trip?
no vegas or tahoe? that would have made it really worthwile.
i _almost_ got roped into doing the welk deal last year at a padres game, but when they wanted a c.card for the $30 deposit I walked away.
so all you got was the catalina trip?
no vegas or tahoe? that would have made it really worthwile.
i _almost_ got roped into doing the welk deal last year at a padres game, but when they wanted a c.card for the $30 deposit I walked away.
They offered Vegas, San Francisco, or Catalina.
We have overdone Vegas the last few years, so we really have no desire to go back.
My girlfriend is from the Bay Area, so San Francisco -- as much as we love it -- wouldn't really be a vacation for us.
We have always wanted to relax in Catalina, since the only time we have ever gone has been as volunteers for their Conservancy (not exactly a vacation...just lots of hard work!).
So, yeah, the other offers were there, we just chose Catalina. And that's not ALL we got...I am honestly just as excited about the $200 in concert tickets. I/we go to a lot of shows, so it will be nice not having to pay for a few gigs. The venues are the Wiltern, the Grove of Anaheim, Coors Amphitheatre (I believe is has a new name now?), or Cox Arena, so there are certainly options. Right now we're trying to decide between Dave Matthews, Death Cab for Cutie, and/or The Cure for our first set of vouchers....
Oh, and you don't have to put the $30 on a credit card. We just paid the deposit in cash, and got $30 cash back at the end of the presentation yesterday.
Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
don't make any plans the day of the presentation. "90 minutes" will really take closer to 4 hours.
Another part of our strategy was to tell the presenter that we had lunch plans with friends at 12:30 (30 minutes after the scheduled end of the presentation). Then, as it got closer to the end of 90 minutes, we continuously glanced at our watches.
Worked like a charm, because we were out in pretty much exactly 90 minutes!
Everything has chains...Absolutely nothing's changed. - PJ
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
I accidentally signed up for something like this once at a local summer festival... I thought it was just a raffle to win a car... a few weeks later I got a call that said I had won my choice of 1 of 3 cars (BMW, Mercedes, something else) and a free vacation... IF I drove out to this time share thing and sat through a meeting...
Im still not 21 tho so I had to convince my mom to go with me... and she wouldnt... cause she said it was a scam... it probably was... but what if it wasnt?!?
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super stupid. some of the smartest people can be the dumbest. couldn't believe they didn't get what was happening to them at the time. but, at the very least, he signed his half away to her in the divorce. now her and her *new* husband are enjoying 2 weeks...each year...in a condo...for about $15,000....payable in easy installments...for the rest of *their* fricken lives.
keep your hands away from *any* writing instruments, good luck and watch your back!!
You know the episode where Bart and Homer are Grifters in order to fix Homer's car after a russian space station drop a gigantic fish on his car.... "Grifty McGriff"...
The guy that took your $30 and many other peoples' that night was the same man that stole Homer's car....
Sorry to hear that heh
yikes. that sucks!
good thing for me/us is that there is absolutely no possible way that i am going to buy (or sign) anything. i mean, seriously, the whole idea of a timeshare is idiotic to me. if they want to give me free money for listening to them for 90 minutes i am more than happy to do so, but the only way i would ever actually buy anything is if they drugged me up somehow.
i plan on telling them that right at the beginning, too.
thanks for the anecdote...it further confirms my resolve to take my free stuff and run.
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
this reminds me of the King of Queens episode where Doug wanted a flat screen TV and they had to survive a weekend at a skii resort..hopefully you stick to saying no unlike he did..haha
"Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
Don't give into pressure!
If you feel you can't do that, take it as a $30 dollar life lesson.
I thought of another way they could you besides being drugged. Don't pretend you're on some sitcom while going to the presentation. if you do, you will sign the papers despite your best efforts.
Good luck.
Marriott and several others have gotten into the timeshare business and somewhat 'legitmized' it. Some places, if you go there every year and the place is not overpriced, would not be a bad buy, EXCEPT for the yearly maintenance fee, which can add $800-1000 PER YEAR. Marriott was selling 2BR condos in Park City some years ago for about 19000 for a ski week. Considering Marriott rents those 2br condos for $300+ per night, not a bad deal until you throw in the maintenance fee, which also tends to rise over time.
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That's why we plan on making it clear that we have an urgent appointment to go to after the presentation. There's no way they can hold us longer under that umbrella.
spinDRatl, thank you for the advice! "We never buy without thinking about it overnight" is a great line!
Someone else suggested "We never buy without discussing it with our accountant first."
Which is better?
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
Definitely don't dress up for the talk and grunge out as much as you can, that sends the clear signal of non-interest on your part. You may also want to start by informing the sales rep that it's in their best interest to make the presentation as quick and painless (for themselves) as possible right from the get go. Show absolutely no interest in the talk and look at your watch a lot. If it's a group meeting, bring your phone and start playing games, texting, or just surfing the web.
Warning: The "free" vacation will involve another pitch, so be wary of that one. It may be a fairly aggravating 2 hours or so, but on the upside, you'll only be 10 minutes from the new Stone Brewing Company's brewery, so you can at least get really awesome beer when you're done!
delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever.
It's a scam
to get your $ (which they've already done-of course that $30 is non-refundable)
and to get you to show up to market their deal to you.
"Sometimes life should be consumed in measured doses"
6-01-06
6/25/08
Free Speedy
and Metsy!
The $30 is given back to us as soon as we show up at the presentation.
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
I told the guy who was doing the tour that we were only there to get the tickets and were not buying anything, so he could either make it hard or easy on himself and save all the bullshit.
He actually laughed and said, no problem - but I have to at least let the manager talk to you at the end.
When he brought over his "manager" I told him that I was not buying, regardless, and he shouldn't waste anymore of his (or my) time.
They gave me my free stuff and I was on my way.
No problem.
First off, I got a reminder call on Thursday evening and told the representative that we were undecided about whether we were going to make it (although I knew all along that we would, I thought I'd see if there was anything else free to be had). She offered me a pair of free Dodgers tickets if we would confirm our RSVP and show up. Cha-ching!
Fast forward to this morning. We woke up bright and early and headed down to Escondido. We arrived at the resort right on time and were immediately asked to sign in. We took a seat in the check-in room, enjoyed some of the complimentary breakfast, and in 15 minutes were summoned.
The woman who was going to ear-torture us was actually very hot. I mean, good looking. So that was a bonus.
She started off by asking us general questions about our lifestyles, etc. She was obviously trying to get a feel for what angles she could use to get us to buy something, but at least she was nice in doing so.
Now, a few days earlier, I was thinking of excuses to give for why we weren't going to buy anything, and the perfect answer popped into my head -- we may be losing our jobs. Actually, my girlfriend and I are both teachers, and Governor Schwarzenegger (I still can't believe he is our governor :( ) has recently cut the education budget by millions (forcing many schools to lay off teachers), so the excuse actually is not totally false. (Although we haven't actually been laid off, the possibility is still there).
Anyhow, a few minutes into the presentation, the perfect time to let her know of our unfortunate employment situation came up, and so I let her have the bad news. It was all a breeze from then on. Although she continued her sales pitch, her heart obviously wasn't into trying to sell something to a pair of teachers who were going to lose their jobs, so the pressure was off. All we had to say was that it was a bad time for us, and that it would be irresponsible for us to commit to buying ANYTHING with our jobs in limbo, and she didn't push too hard.
She did do the standard bringing of the "manager" in to make us the deal-of-a-lifetime at the end, but at that point she knew that she wasn't going to get anything out of us. After an hour and a half, the presentation was over and we went to pick up our gifts.
So...this was definitely a much easier and more pleasant experience than I thought it would be. In the end, we got a free trip to Catalina (boat and 1-night hotel room included), $200 dollars to spend on concert tickets (the only negative being that the tickets have to be purchased at the box office on the day of the show, and only at one-of-four venues...so obviously it can't be for any artist that's going to sell-out), and a pair of Dodgers tickets.
Thanks for everyone's advice and feedback...
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
Nice!! Hook me up with the info on this place please! I've been in California ten years now and have still never been to Catalina - and Dodgers tickets wouldn't hurt either...
This is their website: http://www.welksandiego.com/.
Not sure if you can apply there for a tour with the free gifts, though. We just happened to be approached at Eddie's show...
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
no vegas or tahoe? that would have made it really worthwile.
i _almost_ got roped into doing the welk deal last year at a padres game, but when they wanted a c.card for the $30 deposit I walked away.
They offered Vegas, San Francisco, or Catalina.
We have overdone Vegas the last few years, so we really have no desire to go back.
My girlfriend is from the Bay Area, so San Francisco -- as much as we love it -- wouldn't really be a vacation for us.
We have always wanted to relax in Catalina, since the only time we have ever gone has been as volunteers for their Conservancy (not exactly a vacation...just lots of hard work!).
So, yeah, the other offers were there, we just chose Catalina. And that's not ALL we got...I am honestly just as excited about the $200 in concert tickets. I/we go to a lot of shows, so it will be nice not having to pay for a few gigs. The venues are the Wiltern, the Grove of Anaheim, Coors Amphitheatre (I believe is has a new name now?), or Cox Arena, so there are certainly options. Right now we're trying to decide between Dave Matthews, Death Cab for Cutie, and/or The Cure for our first set of vouchers....
Oh, and you don't have to put the $30 on a credit card. We just paid the deposit in cash, and got $30 cash back at the end of the presentation yesterday.
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
People have mentioned the episodes of South Park and King of Queens, there's also an episode of King of the Hill with the whole "timeshare" theme..
don't make any plans the day of the presentation. "90 minutes" will really take closer to 4 hours.
Another part of our strategy was to tell the presenter that we had lunch plans with friends at 12:30 (30 minutes after the scheduled end of the presentation). Then, as it got closer to the end of 90 minutes, we continuously glanced at our watches.
Worked like a charm, because we were out in pretty much exactly 90 minutes!
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.” - Albert Camus
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Im still not 21 tho so I had to convince my mom to go with me... and she wouldnt... cause she said it was a scam... it probably was... but what if it wasnt?!?
that car couldve been mine!!!
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