Riots/Looting/Violence and general post-George Floyd madness

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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,074
    mace1229 said:
    Unfortunately I fear we'll see a lot more of this as the election gets closer and there's more rallies.
    I also like how instead of saying a hate groups attacked BLM protestors, it was labeled as "Trump supporters" attack BLM group. Yes, they were Trump supporters. But does anyone ever say "Biden supporters loots a Target and Nike store then burns down a car dealership and a Wendy's"?
    I’ve been to a lot of protests this far and I have to say the people that are pulling this crap aren’t Biden supporters and I doubt they support anything at all.
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  • brianlux
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    static111 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Unfortunately I fear we'll see a lot more of this as the election gets closer and there's more rallies.
    I also like how instead of saying a hate groups attacked BLM protestors, it was labeled as "Trump supporters" attack BLM group. Yes, they were Trump supporters. But does anyone ever say "Biden supporters loots a Target and Nike store then burns down a car dealership and a Wendy's"?
    I’ve been to a lot of protests this far and I have to say the people that are pulling this crap aren’t Biden supporters and I doubt they support anything at all.

    Agreed.  The vast majority of Biden people don't want anything to do with the looting, shooting, hurting, burning, and all that crap.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    This would be hilarious but for the idiots and the Team Trump Treason administration believing this stuff. Antiiiiiiiiiiiifa! BOO!


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  • Ledbetterman10
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    edited September 2020
    This one’s funny. Some loser vulgarly harassing a widow of a 9/11 responser, then running away like a little bitch when her son confronts him...

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  • mace1229
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    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
  • mace1229
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    From the watch deputy:

    The female deputy just returned from maternity leave, shot through and through in the jaw and 2 left arm and 2 right arm. Male deputy has 2 forehead shots but luckily didn’t enter the brain cavity, and 2 in the left and 2 in the right arms as well.

    She was hit in the jaw, thru and thru. 
    She took two to the left arm and 2 to the right. Nothing more. She is stable but critical and will require surgery for the jaw. 

    He was hit twice in the forehead. The rounds did not penetrate the cranial cavity. He was hit 4 times in the right arm and 1 time thru and thru in the right hand. 
    He is awake and talking. I gave him a thumbs up and told him he would be okay. He gave me a nod 

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    edited September 2020
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
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  • mace1229
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    There’s video that hasn’t been released. Shows the shooter walk up from behind and shoot into the police car multiple times then run off. You can see one deputy editor the car and walk around dazed, not sure if it’s the male or female.
    I also heard the dispatch audio. The female officer radios for help. She sounds calm but very difficult to understand, she has no lower jaw.
  • nicknyr15
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    Was he a BLM’er or ANTIIIIIIIIIIFA? Maybe a radical leftist? Or a Marxist-communist-socialist? Maybe MS-13?
    Maybe sit this one out if all you have to add is antagonist nonsense. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,827
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    Was he a BLM’er or ANTIIIIIIIIIIFA? Maybe a radical leftist? Or a Marxist-communist-socialist? Maybe MS-13?
    Maybe sit this one out if all you have to add is antagonist nonsense. 
    Actually, happy when people don’t. Really speaks volumes and shows ones true colors when you have no compassion for cops ambushed and shot in the head and protestors try to prevent them from being treated and chose to make snarky comments instead. Especially when one of the cops is a new mom just returning from maternity leave and now has no jaw.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    Was he a BLM’er or ANTIIIIIIIIIIFA? Maybe a radical leftist? Or a Marxist-communist-socialist? Maybe MS-13?
    Maybe sit this one out if all you have to add is antagonist nonsense. 
    Or maybe that “peaceful protester” was a “responsible” gun owner before he wasn’t? Or maybe more guns are the answer? Talk about “antagonist nonsense.”
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  • nicknyr15
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    Was he a BLM’er or ANTIIIIIIIIIIFA? Maybe a radical leftist? Or a Marxist-communist-socialist? Maybe MS-13?
    Maybe sit this one out if all you have to add is antagonist nonsense. 
    Or maybe that “peaceful protester” was a “responsible” gun owner before he wasn’t? Or maybe more guns are the answer? Talk about “antagonist nonsense.”
    What?? Dude. Please. Stop. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    edited September 2020
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    The protestors that attempted to block the ambulance are pos.   
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    Was he a BLM’er or ANTIIIIIIIIIIFA? Maybe a radical leftist? Or a Marxist-communist-socialist? Maybe MS-13?
    Maybe sit this one out if all you have to add is antagonist nonsense. 
    Or maybe that “peaceful protester” was a “responsible” gun owner before he wasn’t? Or maybe more guns are the answer? Talk about “antagonist nonsense.”
    What?? Dude. Please. Stop. 
    Guess Mace’s “mostly ‘peaceful’ protest shoots 2 cops,” didn’t bother you and nor did you consider it “antagonist nonsense?” Yea, folks showing their true colors.
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  • dignin
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    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    So here you are again, making shit up. We have no idea who the shooter was, but you have to say it was a protester.
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited September 2020
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    So here you are again, making shit up. We have no idea who the shooter was, but you have to say it was a protester.
    The “protesters” trying to prevent the officers from getting medical treatment are as sick in the head as the shooter, whether or not the individual was part of the crowd of shitbags.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    So here you are again, making shit up. We have no idea who the shooter was, but you have to say it was a protester.
    And a “peaceful protester” at that. Talk about “antagonistic nonsense.”
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  • mcgruff10
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    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    So here you are again, making shit up. We have no idea who the shooter was, but you have to say it was a protester.
    The “protesters” trying to prevent the officers from getting medical treatment are as sick in the head as the shooter, whether or not the individual was part of the crowd of shitbags.
    Can this even be debated?  Is someone actually going to defend their actions?

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  • mace1229
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    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    So here you are again, making shit up. We have no idea who the shooter was, but you have to say it was a protester.
    What are you talking about? 2 cops were shot in the head while sitting in their car. That’s a fact.
    I use the term “peaceful protestor” the way others use “responsible gun owner.”
    Is there any doubt this shooting is inspired by all the recent violence?
  • PJPOWER
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    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    dignin said:
    mace1229 said:
    Mostly peaceful protest shoots 2 cops multiple times in the head, then peaceful protestors try to prevent them from being treated in the ER yelling they hope they die.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/us/protesters-hospital-los-angeles-sheriffs-deputies-ambushed.amp
    So here you are again, making shit up. We have no idea who the shooter was, but you have to say it was a protester.
    The “protesters” trying to prevent the officers from getting medical treatment are as sick in the head as the shooter, whether or not the individual was part of the crowd of shitbags.
    Can this even be debated?  Is someone actually going to defend their actions?

    I’d love to see them try.
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