anyone jaded with direction of PJ lyrics these days?

I know this has probably been asked before, but is anyone kind of down about the direction that Eddie has seemingly taken. No more Nothingman, Release, or even Given to Fly. I understand that people change, and maybe it's just me, but it seems that Ed's lyrics have a sense of urgency to them now and aren't as easy listening to as before. New ones seem so politically motivated and fatalistic even. Don't get me wrong, I still love the new stuff, but I always find myself listening to the older stuff. They seemed to tell stories more than the ones now.
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  • I agree that Ed's lyrics are taking a different, and more bitter direction lately but I beleive that its an inevitable process since we live in such a more aggressive and urgent society than we did ten or even five years ago. i also think that it wouldnt suit todays political climate if all the new songs werent as aggressive since we all need to take a stand for what we think is right and wrong, Ed may just convince a lot of people to have a backbone! But at least we have the old music in our stereos and in our minds...that will never change.
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  • OmaramaOmarama Posts: 267
    yeah i know what you mean but when you live in country that is lead by that fuckwit george bush its kinda hard not to be more politically minded in your lyric writing
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  • darthvedder88darthvedder88 Posts: 1,023
    Omarama wrote:
    yeah i know what you mean but when you live in country that is lead by that fuckwit george bush its kinda hard not to be more politically minded in your lyric writing

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  • chris01chris01 Posts: 559
    Omarama wrote:
    yeah i know what you mean but when you live in country that is lead by that fuckwit george bush its kinda hard not to be more politically minded in your lyric writing

    Was going to say the same thing, its definatly more politics-orientated these days.

    I think Ed's just getting out all his frustrations. Im not complaining though, musically speaking this album sounds like a step back to yeild.
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    On a couple reviews it looks like the new record sounds like their older stuff. I think many social problems (as listed in 10 era songs-not necessarily included on ten) are very political when you look at the big picture. I don't know the lyrics to the new record, I just hope they make sense. A writer who only writes for what he can understand is a boring writer.
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  • weenieweenie Posts: 1,623
    I agree with everything you guys have said, Ed has taken a different direction and it could be for a million different reasons. But, I also think that the rest of the guys are sorta picking up where he left off. I think McReady's Inside Job is classic. It's personal, not only for him but for a gazillion of us out here who are in the same place. I love Eddie, always will, but I also have a new perspective on Mike - the person Mike - not just as bthe fantabufuckingist guitarist in the world. Just my opinion.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    actually, I think ed's lyrics on the new album are more like his early lyrics than most of his recent efforts. He's gone back to telling stories now ... instead of writing really esoteric shit.

    Almost every song on the new record you can sum up be finishing the sentence, "It's about a guy who _____" or "It's about a woman who _____"

    As opposed to some of the songs on Binaural and Riot Act. "Um, it's about the birth and rebirth and regeneration of life, written in the style of a Keats poem. And it's called "Cropduster" for some reason." "

    I like "story" songs. Very Springsteen-esque. And very early Ed.
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  • ClaySmockClaySmock Posts: 18
    I know this has probably been asked before, but is anyone kind of down about the direction that Eddie has seemingly taken. No more Nothingman, Release, or even Given to Fly. I understand that people change, and maybe it's just me, but it seems that Ed's lyrics have a sense of urgency to them now and aren't as easy listening to as before. New ones seem so politically motivated and fatalistic even. Don't get me wrong, I still love the new stuff, but I always find myself listening to the older stuff. They seemed to tell stories more than the ones now.
    Yeah i feel you on this one... but I also am thankful for the new stuff, we can always listen to the older deeper albums...i hope the next album will have a more contemplative side to it... I think he could still get powerful political and social points across without the aggressive semi-punk influence... i think the reason i like the calmer stuff is because the band seems more creative and the music gets deeper, It seems like there are too many simple riffs supporting the music on this new album... but Time always changes my perspective of their music....
    Do I eat them?.. raw or well done?...Do I trick them...? I don't think they're dumb...
  • obiwon76obiwon76 Posts: 568
    I totally agree with everyone who says Ed's lyrics are a direct reflection on the state of country and the leader who runs it. There is a sense of urgency, but leave it to Ed to somehow use his power of lyrics to get a message across. I remember watching an old interview from 92, where Ed said, "you can sit there and sing about getting girls and everything, but I choose to write about true life, things that matter and can have an impact on the listener". I think those of us who are long time PJ fans have grown to understand and interpret the lyrics. There are some very obvious songs on the new album, "WWS", "Unemployable" and "Army Reserve" that deal with issues going on today. I wonder how these songs would of sounded prior to the Bush administration? Makes u wonder?
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  • obiwon76obiwon76 Posts: 568
    I totally agree with everyone who says Ed's lyrics are a direct reflection on the state of country and the leader who runs it. There is a sense of urgency, but leave it to Ed to somehow use his power of lyrics to get a message across. I remember watching an old interview from 92, where Ed said, "you can sit there and sing about getting girls and everything, but I choose to write about true life, things that matter and can have an impact on the listener". I think those of us who are long time PJ fans have grown to understand and interpret the lyrics. There are some very obvious songs on the new album, "WWS", "Unemployable" and "Army Reserve" that deal with issues going on today. I wonder how these songs would of sounded prior to the Bush administration? Makes u wonder?
    San Fran 92, San Fran 93, Berkeley 93, Indio 93, Fairfax 94, DC 95, San Fran 95, DC 95, Va Beach 98, Columbia 98, Dc 98, Va Beach 00, Columbia 00, Philly 03, Bristow 03, Chicago 06, Chicago 06, Dc 06, DC 08
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