Echo Chamber

You folks should really get out in the open and look at data and facts in a non-biased, non- agenda fashion.

When all you read, say and hear is what you already believe, you’ve probably done yourself a disservice.  
Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    You folks should really get out in the open and look at data and facts in a non-biased, non- agenda fashion.

    When all you read, say and hear is what you already believe, you’ve probably done yourself a disservice.  

    More specifics as to what you're relating this to would help, Edson.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    You folks should really get out in the open and look at data and facts in a non-biased, non- agenda fashion.

    When all you read, say and hear is what you already believe, you’ve probably done yourself a disservice.  
    You mean like reading up and getting data and facts from here?

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    I'm guessing, Edson, you are expressing some exasperation over that way we often will see something on social media and the news and echo that sentiment in kind of a knee jerk reaction.  Kind of like what I have been saying about slogans and how they are easy to repeat but we don't always scrutinize what they say.  And anyway, actions speak louder than words.  It might be a good idea for us to actually take action, live what we say rather than just repeat what others say because we want to be accepted.

    If that's the case, I'm cool with that.  If I say something that sounds hollow or trite, call me on that shit!
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    That statement could apply to anything.

    Does it, or to something in particular?

    To some ones in particular?

    Spit it out! ;)

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,762
    But everyone knows that data and facts along with numbers and the weather have a strong liberal bias.

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    And echoes nobody hears it goes it goes it goes
    Like echoes nobody hears it goes it goes it goes
    It goes like this!
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,269
    You folks should really get out in the open and look at data and facts in a non-biased, non- agenda fashion.

    When all you read, say and hear is what you already believe, you’ve probably done yourself a disservice.  
    What's funny is that if you followed your own advice you wouldn't be a tRump supporter.  But alas...you are.
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,520
    You folks should really get out in the open and look at data and facts in a non-biased, non- agenda fashion.

    When all you read, say and hear is what you already believe, you’ve probably done yourself a disservice.  

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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,468
    "if you don't agree with me, you're biased/live in an echo chamber/are a sheep". 

    i think many trump supporters have that tattooed on their asses. 
    I've been accused of the same thing by Democrats in the election thread. This particular form of arrogance appears across the entire political spectrum.
  • shorty4568shorty4568 Posts: 176
    edited June 2020
    You folks should really get out in the open and look at data and facts in a non-biased, non- agenda fashion.

    When all you read, say and hear is what you already believe, you’ve probably done yourself a disservice.
     
    Kinda ironic posting this to a forum dedicated to a single band. I just come here to confirm my addiction is normal and justify my overspending. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,351
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    Without a clear subject being discussed I struggle to differentiate the left and right based on their behavior. Most people somewhere in the middle don't need to beat their chests all day long.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    Well, there is the Q thread.
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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    That is a long and winding rabbit hole, my friend.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    I’m all over that :lol:
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,351
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    Well, there is the Q thread.
    JW269453 said:
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    That is a long and winding rabbit hole, my friend.
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    I’m all over that :lol:
    Q thread doesn't get much traction though.  I mean some of the things are so ridiculous that a few searches should come up w clear answers.

    It would be fun, maybe, lol?

    We can be the new Mystery Machine Sleuths!
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,521
    Edson how’s the pandemic down in Brazil your president also says it’s a hoax I wonder where he got that from lol ..
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    Well, there is the Q thread.
    JW269453 said:
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    That is a long and winding rabbit hole, my friend.
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    I’m all over that :lol:
    Q thread doesn't get much traction though.  I mean some of the things are so ridiculous that a few searches should come up w clear answers.

    It would be fun, maybe, lol?

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,351
    dankind said:
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    Well, there is the Q thread.
    JW269453 said:
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    That is a long and winding rabbit hole, my friend.
    I thgink we should start a misinformation thread and we can all look up facts and present them to disprove the erroneous.

    Any takers?  There have been some doozies that I'd like to debunk.
    I’m all over that :lol:
    Q thread doesn't get much traction though.  I mean some of the things are so ridiculous that a few searches should come up w clear answers.

    It would be fun, maybe, lol?

    We can be the new Mystery Machine Sleuths!
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,351
    You can sport that mean ascot.

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  • pjl44 said:
    "if you don't agree with me, you're biased/live in an echo chamber/are a sheep". 

    i think many trump supporters have that tattooed on their asses. 
    I've been accused of the same thing by Democrats in the election thread. This particular form of arrogance appears across the entire political spectrum.
    you're right. i just see it more from conservatives. i guess that means i'm in my echo chamber. lol
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    You folks should really get out in the open and look at data and facts in a non-biased, non- agenda fashion.

    When all you read, say and hear is what you already believe, you’ve probably done yourself a disservice.  
    Oh, you mean like from here?

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    edited June 2020
    On a busy day here, it could be argued that AMT is more like a reverb chamber.  Or not.  But in any case, here's how you tell the difference:


    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,762
    I like how he started the thread, got everyone wound up, but hasn't come back to respond or defend his post.
    Must be one of those brazilian republicans

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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    I'm not wound up, just curious.

    I guess I'm just not big on cryptic or ambiguous threads.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,017
    hedonist said:
    I'm not wound up, just curious.

    I guess I'm just not big on cryptic or ambiguous threads.

    Pretty much the same here, although on occasion I have been known to be curiously wound up.  But more and more I just try to glide.  Higher and higher. 
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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