Better Album: Backspacer or Lightning Bolt

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  • KN219077KN219077 MontanaPosts: 806
    Lightning Bolt
    Long Red said:
    edocon said:
    I did a track-by-track listenability comparison. In my opinion:

    1. Gonna See My Friend > Getaway
    2. Got Some == Mind Your Manners
    3. The Fixer > My Father's Son
    4. Johnny Guitar < Sirens
    5. Just Breathe > LIghtning Bolt
    6. Amongst the Waves > Infallible
    7. Unkthought Known > Pendulum
    8. Supersonic == Swallowed Whole
    9. Speed of Sound > Let The Records Play
    10. Force of Nature == Sleeping By Myself
    11. The End  == Yellow Moon and/or Future Days
     
    Backspacer 6
    Lightning Bolt 1
    Toss-up 4
    Whoa, hold on. Force of Nature is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than Sleeping By Myself. 
    I wouldn’t go that far, both are pretty cheesy.
  • pledgeagrievancepledgeagrievance Posts: 1,753
    Backspacer
    Backspacer, by a little. I listen to it more. Feels more like an album, LB is a collection of songs. It didn’t age as well. LB the song didn’t age well either. Feels like safe dad rock. I was scared that this song signaled where the band was headed forever. Plus Future Days is possibly the most cringe worthy song in the cannon. 

    GSMF, Got Some, Just Breathe, Unthought Known, all hope to hear at shows. 

    Getaway, MYM, Pendulum, Swallowed Whole, Yellow Moon, all hope to hear at shows. 
  • GibsonGibson TorontoPosts: 1,844
    Lightning Bolt
    The only reason I voted the way I did is because of Yellow Moon.
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  • mcdevittpbmcdevittpb Posts: 88
    1. Gonna See My Friend = Getaway
    2. Got Some = Mind Your Manners
    3. The Fixer > My Father's Son
    4. Johnny Guitar < Sirens
    5. Just Breathe > LIghtning Bolt
    6. Amongst the Waves = Infallible
    7. Unkthought Known < Pendulum
    8. Supersonic = Swallowed Whole
    9. Speed of Sound = Let The Records Play
    10. Force of Nature Sleeping By Myself
    11. The End  <Yellow Moon and Future Days

    Overall equal.  Both solid albums.  
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 6,678
    Backspacer

    1. Gonna See My Friend = Getaway
    2. Got Some = Mind Your Manners
    3. The Fixer > My Father's Son
    4. Johnny Guitar < Sirens
    5. Just Breathe > LIghtning Bolt
    6. Amongst the Waves > Infallible
    7. Unthought Known > Pendulum
    8. Supersonic = Swallowed Whole
    9. Speed of Sound > Let The Records Play
    10. Force of Nature >>>>>>>Sleeping By Myself
    11. The End  >Yellow Moon and Future Days
  • KM73780KM73780 Posts: 125
    Backspacer
    Dang LB has taken the lead again. 
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWestPosts: 14,582
    Backlighter:

    Gonna See My Friends
    Got Some
    Mind Your Manners
    Sirens
    Just Breathe
    Lightning Bolt
    Amongst The Waves
    Unthought Known
    Pendulum
    Yellow Moon
    Future Days

    The End (hidden track)

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  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Calgary ABPosts: 2,111
    Backspacer
    Long Red said:
    edocon said:
    I did a track-by-track listenability comparison. In my opinion:

    1. Gonna See My Friend > Getaway
    2. Got Some == Mind Your Manners
    3. The Fixer > My Father's Son
    4. Johnny Guitar < Sirens
    5. Just Breathe > LIghtning Bolt
    6. Amongst the Waves > Infallible
    7. Unkthought Known > Pendulum
    8. Supersonic == Swallowed Whole
    9. Speed of Sound > Let The Records Play
    10. Force of Nature == Sleeping By Myself
    11. The End  == Yellow Moon and/or Future Days
     
    Backspacer 6
    Lightning Bolt 1
    Toss-up 4
    Whoa, hold on. Force of Nature is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than Sleeping By Myself. 
    Absolutely. Not even close: Force of Nature is one of the top 3 songs on BS and Sleeping By Myself is the worst song of LB. One of the worst PJ songs ever IMO.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer MarylandPosts: 15,722
    Today I'd vote one way, tomorrow I'd vote another, Saturday... and so on.  But I could do that with all PJ albums, really.  Love em all!
  • Of The AggieOf The Aggie The ATXPosts: 1,288
    Backspacer
    LB is by far PJs absolute worst album!  BS is so short that I can put it on and listen in 30 minutes when I want something quick.
  • ty914ty914 Posts: 2
    Backspacer
    BS by a very slight margin with Fixer and especially Speed of Sound putting it over the top.  I think if you put the best of these two together, it makes a really good single album.  

    Lightning Spacer:

    1.) Getaway
    2.) Got Some
    3.) My Father's Son
    4.) Johnny Guitar
    5.) Just Breathe
    6.) Mind Your Manners
    7.) The Fixer
    8.) Sirens
    9.) Swallowed Whole
    10.) Speed of Sound
    11.) Pendulum
    12.) Unthought Known


  • mr bunglemr bungle Posts: 961
    Backspacer
    Long Red said:
    edocon said:
    I did a track-by-track listenability comparison. In my opinion:

    1. Gonna See My Friend > Getaway
    2. Got Some == Mind Your Manners
    3. The Fixer > My Father's Son
    4. Johnny Guitar < Sirens
    5. Just Breathe > LIghtning Bolt
    6. Amongst the Waves > Infallible
    7. Unkthought Known > Pendulum
    8. Supersonic == Swallowed Whole
    9. Speed of Sound > Let The Records Play
    10. Force of Nature == Sleeping By Myself
    11. The End  == Yellow Moon and/or Future Days
     
    Backspacer 6
    Lightning Bolt 1
    Toss-up 4
    Whoa, hold on. Force of Nature is LEAPS AND BOUNDS better than Sleeping By Myself. 
    I agree!
  • iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 1,782
    Backspacer
    Force of Nature is one of the most underrated songs in the catalog.  Would love to hear it live someday. 
  • Lightning Bolt
    The lyrics to most of Backspacer, minus JB, Unthought, and the end are just empty. The first 4 songs on BS, I’d rather just have instrumentals. Amongst the Waves and FoN as well. It’s the low point in their discography imo, mostly because of the lyrics.
  • SparkieSparkie Posts: 3
    Lightning Bolt
    Combined you make a really good, tight 10 song album. As is....Lightning Bolt is the better overall effort IMO. Especially lyrically.
    Although, the production is somewhat deadened on it. (Having said that, I love how songs like Yellow Moon and Pendulum sound.) Just doesn't seem to be energy and life in it. Backspacer's production has a bit of zip to it...and given the brevity of the album, BS makes for an easier listen. But the consistency of LB wins out for me
  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 6,678
    Backspacer
    Im actually really surprised.  I know neither of these are popular amongst the Porch folks, but i thought Backspacer would runaway with this.  
  • Matts3221Matts3221 Posts: 359
    Lightning Bolt

    LB Bangers - 8
    Getaway
    Mind Your Manners
    Sirens
    Lighting Bolt
    Infallible
    Swallowed Whole
    Sleeping By Myself
    Future Days


    Back Spacer Bangers - 7
    Got Some
    The Fixer
    Just Breath
    Amongst The Waves
    Unthought Know
    Speed Of Sound
    The End

  • vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 510
    Backspacer
    Backspacer and it's not even close.  Don't get the hate for Backspacer.   Tight, fun rockers with actual melodies...best since Yield.   What's not to love?
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commetsPosts: 19,559
    Backspacer
    I enjoy both of these records....neither one are in bottom 3, to me.  Glad to see some speaking well of both.  
    I really enjoy the first 2/3 of LB...but BS has (and forever will have) a special spot for me based on where I was when it came out.  (Figuratively)
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  • pledgeagrievancepledgeagrievance Posts: 1,753
    Backspacer

    Lightning Spacer:

    PenduluM

    Gonna see My Friend

    Got Some

    Mind Your Manners

    Unthought Known

    Just Breathe 

    The Fixer

    Swallowed Whole 

    Lightning Bolt 

    Infallible

    Getaway

    Yellow Moon

    The End 

  • tino_11tino_11 Posts: 1,392
    Lightning Bolt
    1. Gonna See My Friend < Getaway
    2. Got Some = Mind Your Manners
    3. The Fixer < My Father's Son
    4. Johnny Guitar < Sirens
    5. Just Breathe > LIghtning Bolt
    6. Amongst the Waves < Infallible
    7. Unthought Known = Pendulum
    8. Supersonic < Swallowed Whole
    9. Speed of Sound > Let The Records Play
    10. Force of Nature > Sleeping By Myself
    11. The End  < Yellow Moon and Future Days

    I honestly can't believe that quite a few of you rate GSMF as high as Getaway. Then again, I really like My Fathers Son and that gets a lot of hate around here.

    I like both albums, but LB has more tracks I really like. Agree with comments that BS feels more like cohesive album but not much depth to the lyrics (musically just OK for me too).
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 9,980
    Lightning Bolt
    I hate to call BS my least favorite album but it is....still a good piece of work though
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  • jeffbrjeffbr SeattlePosts: 7,009
    Lightning Bolt
    A few good songs on both records, but I don't think either are strong albums. So it is a close one for the bottom of the list. Almost a coin toss. Don't ever feel compelled to listen to either one start to finish anymore.
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  • mlcoon23mlcoon23 Posts: 7
    Backspacer
    Backspacer is a more complete album.  Lightning bolt has good tunes but I ship more songs on it than backspacer. 
  • KN219077KN219077 MontanaPosts: 806
    edited May 22
    Lightning Bolt
    Both albums combined would have made one good album if you culled the throwaway tracks 
  • KM73780KM73780 Posts: 125
    Backspacer
    I’m surprised that LB has more support than BS. I always thought BS was ok until I came to this forum. First three tracks on BS are better than anything on LB except MYM. 
  • 1ThoughtKnown1ThoughtKnown Calgary ABPosts: 2,111
    edited May 22
    Backspacer
    KM73780 said:
    I’m surprised that LB has more support than BS. I always thought BS was ok until I came to this forum. First three tracks on BS are better than anything on LB except MYM. 
    When comparing albums as others have, the BS slow rockers of Just Breathe, Speed of Sound and The End (if you have ever known a person in this situation this song tears you up inside) are far superior IMO than LB’s Future Days, Sleeping By Myself and Yellow Moon. I really only want to hear Yellow Moon, has an Uncle Neil feel to me, Future Days is ok... and SBM (ugh). 



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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom'sPosts: 9,980
    Lightning Bolt
    vedpunk said:
    Backspacer and it's not even close.  Don't get the hate for Backspacer.   Tight, fun rockers with actual melodies...best since Yield.   What's not to love?
    best since Yield...except for Binaural, Riot Act, and S/T
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  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 2,456
    Lightning Bolt
    KM73780 said:
    I’m surprised that LB has more support than BS. I always thought BS was ok until I came to this forum. First three tracks on BS are better than anything on LB except MYM. 
    When comparing albums as others have, the BS slow rockers of Just Breathe, Speed of Sound and The End (if you have ever known a person in this situation this song tears you up inside) are far superior IMO than LB’s Future Days, Sleeping By Myself and Yellow Moon. I really only want to hear Yellow Moon, has an Uncle Neil feel to me, Future Days is ok... and SBM (ugh). 



    This way of comparing albums doesn’t make much sense to me. What does it matter how both songs 3 compare? You like a song or you don’t and at the end of the album you know how many songs you like
  • PJNBPJNB New BrunswickPosts: 7,198
    I am not sure just going head to head with tracklistings and tallying it up is a fair way to say which album is better. Some of those wins could be squeakers while others are huge wins and to weigh them evenly would not make sense imo. 

    I think Pendulum is slightly better than Unthought Known. That gives 1 point to LB and it acts as if Unthought Known is not even on the album since it gets no credit. I know this is just for fun and interesting to see but it is just a thought. 
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