Your View + help to decypher on Yellow Ledbetter Lyrics!

Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,561
well, i really dont have a clue, i get the feeling its about someone leaving or something or someone who doesn't really know who they are

i am really poor at like decyphering lyris + poems etc heh

any of your views would be grate!
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  • Personally, I've always kind of viewed it as someone who finds out that someone in their family dies, but they can see their spirits when they leave, and they have a longing to want to be with their other relatives...beautiful song...
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  • i read somewhere that there is no meaning to the lyrics, the band were just jammin and Eddie improvised the vocal melody and the lyrics just stuck,
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  • sesamesesame Posts: 22
    I always get the image of a bum walking along a beach, and looking forlorrnly at all the people on their porches along the beach. Then the song talks about people coming back in boxes or bags, so I think coffins or body bags, which to mean implies the war - the bag could be for peices. So the bum has lost family to the war and is waiting for them to come back, while feeling bad about everyone else. Just my interpretation.
  • romybianromybian Posts: 1,644
    :eek:
    You don't know!?!¿¿??
    http://home.comcast.net/~angelalb/ledbetter.swf

    :cool:
    "The joke in your language won't come out the same" (Tom Petty)
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  • JoanneJoanne Posts: 98
    rediscovering yellow ledbetter
    live from 7/22/98

    Remember the first time you heard "Yellow Ledbetter?" Maybe you tracked down an import copy of the "Jeremy" single, maybe you heard it live, maybe you got your hands on a tape. If you live in a major city with an alternative radio station, chances are your first exposure was on the radio.
    By the first time I heard YL live, I was already sick of it, a victim of radio overkill (much like what is happening now with "Last Kiss," the 1998 Fan Club Christmas Single). Radio was dying for new Pearl Jam, and someone at some radio station got their hands on a copy of the single and started playing it. Before you knew it, it was on the radio ALL THE TIME, everywhere... the dj would say, "...and up next, some new Pearl Jam!" and you'd get excited, and then it would be - Yellow Ledbetter.

    What *is* it about this song that makes people go completely nuts over it??


    different [not better] perspectives
    There are people out there who consider themselves (and are!) big Pearl Jam fans, who really enjoy their music, but who just own the studio albums and love listening to them, will go see them if they play in their town. They're not out there trading, they're not out there trying to get their hands on every single bit of recorded PJ music that exists; in fact, they probably don't even really know, or think about, the fact that there is stuff out there besides what's on the albums. It's just a different way of looking at things; it's hard to remember that, sometimes, for those of us who are so obsessed. :)
    So when they turn on the radio and hear something they've never ever heard before, even though they consider themselves a fan, they are going to get excited and interested.

    Now, it isn't in the radio station's interest to say to them, "Hey, you can get this single on the b-side of the 'Jeremy' single, which you can get in a record store or on cdnow.com," because they want you to listen to their station all the time. (Which is, of course, the exact same reason radio stations are so happy about "Last Kiss." If you don't already have it, you can't get it [not yet, anyway!], and the only way you can hear it is on their station.)

    So lots of fans would call the station and ask for "that new Pearl Jam song." So the station would play it more. Lather, rinse, repeat, playing what was a perfectly fine song into the ground. *grumble*

    Now, take a stadium or an arena filled with Pearl Jam fans of all shapes and sizes. At least 80% of the people in the venue, if not more, are only going to see ONE show on a tour. Maybe they haven't seen Pearl Jam before. Maybe they couldn't get tickets to the last show. Point being, they have come to the show with expectations, and goddammit, they want to hear that song, "Yellow Ledbetter". Many of these folks still haven't figured out that they can get the damn thing on cd really easily. To them, it's special, it's rare. So if Ed asks (like he did at the 9/16/96 Seattle tour opener), "What do you want to hear, 'Around the Bend' or 'Yellow Ledbetter'," which do you think is going to win?

    *ding ding ding*


    live ledbetter
    YL was debuted on 11/6/93 (although riffs appeared during various 92 shows), the day after the infamous Indio show (the 'shoes for my friends show'), in Mesa, Arizona, the first of two benefit shows for Mt. Graham. Mt. Graham is a sacred mountain to the Apache indians, and the University of Arizona was going to build an observatory at the top of it. This is an oddly intense show; it was a political protest, and we know how Ed gets when he's fired up politically, especially back then.
    We've got no documentation how or why the band decided to play this song live for the first time, but this was the beginning of a trend that was to continue up until this very day.


    boxes, bags and porches
    The #1 question in Pearl Jam fandom (after the 'sun' or 'star' question) is probably, "What are the words to Yellow Ledbetter?" Let us take this moment to point out (or remind you), for the record, that THERE ARE NO OFFICIAL WORDS TO YELLOW LEDBETTER, nor is there even really a storyline. As documented by Kim Neely in 5 Against 1, when they recorded the song, Eddie improvised the lyrics:
    "There would be countless interpretations of "Yellow Ledbetter" batted around over the years, and Pearl Jam's fan organization, the Ten Club, would regularly receive pleading letters from fans who wanted the "real" lyrics. In fact, there never were any real lyrics. Eddie had simply improvised them during the one-take session, singing whatever phrases happened to pop into his head. The song's odd title was a joke, in honor of a Chicago friend of Eddie's named Tim Ledbetter. In concert, Eddie has outfitted "Yellow Ledbetter" with countless different sets of lyrics over the years, further thwarting fans' attempts to sniff out the elusive "real" meaning of the song."
    And he hasn't sang them the same, not once, since that time. I'd bet he probably couldn't if you asked him to! :-)
    So, there ARE words, but they're still an improvisation. It's almost at the point where it doesn't matter, really; everyone has their own words by now, and Ed's unintelligible vocals on this song doesn't stop entire stadiums from singing along at the top of their lungs -- in fact, it encourages it. They're all wrong, and they're all right. It's a tremendous moment of audience-band communion, and as much as I would choose to hear something else if I had that choice, I always love that moment when it happens.


    i got the blues
    Still, I wanted to understand what it was about this song that drew so many people to it. And I think it's a combination of things:
    YL is, at its heart, a blues song. The blues are by its very nature an extremely emotional, pure, direct form of music.
    There aren't really any words; Ed's vocals are just another instrument. And the fact that there aren't any words means that you can sing along at the top of your voice and be totally right.
    One of the few words that you can understand and is consistent is "wave." That, with the traditional placement at the very end of the show makes it into a plaintive song of farewell. The show is over, it's time to go home, wave goodbye to the band and your friends. For the diehards, the opening chords of YL signal the point of no return -- the show is over. =(
    i [heart] YL
    Since 5h's inception, we have taken untold amounts of CRAP for daring to say that, perhaps, YL is 1) over-rated and 2) over-played. It's a FINE song, but does it REALLY need to be played at the end of every single Pearl Jam show????????????
    And, really, we still do feel this way. We could easily come up with a list of 20 songs within five seconds that we'd rather hear as a closing number.

    But, ya know, there's something about this band and their music. Songs that you might not like, or particularly enjoy, or program the cd player to skip, can, one day, sound different. Strike you differently. Maybe it's you, but more times than not, it's them. Those PJ guys. Taking their music, letting it evolve, transforming it.

    And then, there's that McCready character. Playing like a MF throughout the 1998 tour. Blistering, fluid, emotive solos, and the man simply REDEEMED the song. Like it, don't like it, doesn't matter, listen to McCready.


    7/22/98 SDBD
    As many of you know, the PJ taping community recently unearthed a true band soundboard recording of the 7/22/98 Seattle show, the last show of the West Leg of the tour. (Don't buy this, trade for it, the show has been treed and is widely and easily available. If you need to know where to go, the traders' pages are linked at the bottom of the page. DON'T PAY MONEY FOR THIS. The entire show is also available online, just look around.)
    So I'm driving home one day, listening to the show. It was a beautiful, clear, sunny day, and I'm coming around the bottom of Queen Anne hill, around (coincidentally) Seattle Center, where that show took place, the sunset blazing in the west. It was breathtaking.

    The show moves into YL, and instead of skipping forward, I just let it play - I was in one of those moods. And by the time I got home, I was transformed. I remembered the show that night; I'd made my way back to the bleachers and was standing there, shaken up, because I'd gotten killed in the mosh pit and spent a quarter of the show in the first aid tent. The show was amazing and I was pissed I was missing it, I was angry I was hurt, you name it. And I really didn't want to be hearing YL as the last song of the show.

    But they went into it, and the house lights come up, and there goes McCready, wailing away for all he's worth, and I'm transfixed. He goes into the Hendrix version of "The Star Spangled Banner" and next thing I know I'm climbing on top of the bench, my fist in the air in salute to him. The power was undeniable, and the recording of this show just brought that home. I know I'm never going to listen to this song the same way again.

    And then, I remembered this quote of (figures) McCready's about the blues:

    "That music is so peaceful and beautiful and soulful, you could just walk out into a field and say 'OK, I can die now.'"

    ...Which is about how most of us feel when we leave a Pearl Jam show, right?

    [P.S. I'm purposely not listening to the Seattle radio station playing "Last Kiss" 7 times a day.]

    (sound file was removed)
    We're still making records for people who listen to it all the way through, eyes closed, in that space.
  • I have always imagined Ed closing his eyes, improvising the lyrics...probably after some wine, just leting it be...

    Thanks Ed and Mike for such a song...
    ...can´t wear my mask, your first my last...
  • romybian wrote:
    :eek:
    You don't know!?!¿¿??
    http://home.comcast.net/~angelalb/ledbetter.swf

    :cool:


    hahaha you beat me to it
    i effin love this thing it never gets old lol
    dream like your living forever
    live like your dying today
  • GrahamGraham Posts: 3
    I love this song, and yea it started as an improvisation. There is a copy of the promo version of "Ten" avaliable on the net to download... http://whygo.homeip.net/download/ and on the promo, there is the "improv" that is now yellow ledbetter. You can hear from that, how the song evolved. I think that the song is all about it being able to be about what ever you want it to be about, and was probably what eddie felt at that moment. Definately a song that will always be a classic!
    ;)
  • GrahamGraham Posts: 3
    I love this song, and yea it started as an improvisation. There is a copy of the promo version of "Ten" avaliable on the net to download... http://whygo.homeip.net/download/ and on the promo, there is the "improv" that is now yellow ledbetter. You can hear from that, how the song evolved. I think that the song is all about it being able to be about what ever you want it to be about, and was probably what eddie felt at that moment. Definately a song that will always be a classic!
    ;)
  • Maybe the question could be re-phrased like "What do you interpret Yellow Ledbetter to be about?"

    Since I heard a boot one time I believe from Sweden or somewhere and before playing the mamason trillogy Ed said something like "I don't want to ruin the interpretations of the songs that you have but it's about rape, incest etc.." So see I think it's up to us, all of us what each song means to us and how it hits us.
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,561
    wow this thread is olld, never thought someone would dig this up
  • MerkyjammMerkyjamm Posts: 272
    I always think it's about War and free speech... Personally.
    Too many cowboys, not enough indians, so just go ape shit!

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    TV is such shit; let's go outside and ride bicycles, right now!

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  • PatrickBatemanPatrickBateman Posts: 2,243
    I always thought it was "Don't know whether I'm the boxer or the bag"
    If a man speaks in a forest and there is no woman around to hear him, is he still wrong?
  • MaartenMaarten Posts: 12
    I always thought it was "Don't know whether I'm the boxer or the bag"

    I second that, and I still think it is...
    Make it pain-painfully quick
    Want to be enlightened like I wanna be told the end...
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,561
    Maarten wrote:
    I second that, and I still think it is...

    hmm, it depends how you sing it, both versions fit in
  • my interpretation of it is its a song about a man who has gone to war and the person waiting for him to come home. Sitting or standing on the porch waiting for him to come home or the dreaded envelope with the bad news.

    Box or a bag...to me...is the way the soldier came home from war if they were Killed in Action.
    he who forgets will be destined to remember
  • jamjamjamjam Posts: 491
    I always thought it was "Don't know whether I'm the boxer or the bag"

    I always thought it was "Don't know whether it's
    a parcel or a bag.." i still do.
    Who knows? i know i'm wrong but it's amusing.
  • jamjamjamjam Posts: 491
    edit: "Don't know if it's a parcel or a bag.."
    Doesn't that make more sense now?
    :)
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