meaning of Jeremy

hi,

i'm new here so this may have been discussed a thousand times in here, but here goes.

does anyone else think that Jeremy is about a case of child abuse? or neglect?

its something i always saw as blatantly obvious but maybe other people may have other interpretations of the lyrics?
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  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    I don't know if Jeremy has been the subject of the conversation here (lately)..
    but if not here, it's meaning sure has been interpreted a lot! also the band has talked about it, obviously.

    Jeremy. he sure is a kid who doesn't get attention or affection, that's obvious, it says so in the lyrics. but I haven't seen it to be about child abuse..

    the line "Jeremy spoke in the class today" took me a while to understand even after I had seen the video. (how dumb can I be? :D ) or at least my interpretation of that line is that it's the line where Ed tells that Jeremy shot himself... right?

    Jeremy's a great song. a sad song. :( a genious song.
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  • Jeremy is about a boy who killed himself at Berkner Highschool (I think that was the highschool) near Dallas TX. I don't think the lyrics suggest abuse by the parents but there is defenitely neglect. The boy the song is about was a messed up kid but there was no sign of abuse by his parents that the police could find. At least not physical.
  • Very informative web site. Always knew what the song was about but not all the details.
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  • Born2JamBorn2Jam Posts: 255
    bh61162 wrote:
    I don't think the lyrics suggest abuse by the parents but there is defenitely neglect. The boy the song is about was a messed up kid but there was no sign of abuse by his parents that the police could find. At least not physical.


    Neglect IS abuse.
    You don't have to touch a child to abuse them.

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  • EraserheadEraserhead Posts: 2,937
    It's about porn star, Ron Jeremy.

    End. Of. Thread.

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  • The newspaper article that inspired Eddie to write Jeremy.
    Richardson Teen-Ager Kills Himself in Front of Classmates by Bobbi Miller Annette Nevins
    RICHARDSON - A Richardson High School sophomore, described as a loner who had been in counseling, fatally shot himself Tuesday in front of a classroom of about 30 students. Jeremy Wade Delle, 16, who had transferred from a Dallas school, died instantly after firing a .357-caliber Magnum into his mouth about 9:45 a.m. police said. Because he had missed class, the teacher in his second-period English class told Jeremy to get an admittance slip from the school office. Instead, he returned with the gun, police said. He walked directly to the front of the classroom. "Miss, I got what I really went for," he said, then placed the barrel in his mouth and fired, according to Sgt. Ray Pennington, a police spokesman. The shooting occurred before the students or teacher Fay Barnett could react, said school district spokeswoman Susan Dacus-Wilson. It stunned students and faculty members throughout the school at 1250 W. Belt Line Road. Brian Jackson, 16, said he was working the combination on his locker just outside Jeremy's English class when he heard a loud bang "like someone had just slammed a book on a desk." "I thought they were doing a play or something," he said. "But then I heard a scream and a blond girl came running out of the classroom and she was crying." Frightened, but curious, Brian looked into the classroom and saw Jeremy lying on the floor bleeding. "The teacher was standing against the wall crying and shaking," Brian said. "Some people were standing around her holding her as if to keep her from falling." Another student, Howard Perre Felman, and 11th- grader, was in government class when he heard the shot. At first students joked about the noise, thinking that someone was playing around, he said. "But then we heard a girl running down the hall screaming," he said. "It was a scream from the heart." Sgt. Pennington said Jeremy apparently had given some thought to his actions because he left a suicide note with a classmate. Investigators would not disclose its contents. Principal Jerry Bishop said Jeremy's class attendance had been sporadic. Mr. Bishop said he had met with the boy and his father to discuss the problem. Police said that Jeremy had been in counseling with his father, but they did not know the specifics. Sgt. Pennington said police did not know where the youth got the gun and had no clue why he would kill himself in a crowded classroom. The classmates who witnessed the shooting were immediately ushered to a secluded room for counseling. About 30 members of the school district's volunteer crisis team arrived to counsel students. Classes continued throughout the day. Some students were allowed to leave early, but counselors encouraged them to stay at school and discuss their feelings. Few students knew Jeremy well because he had attended Bryan Adams High School in Dallas last year and had enrolled in the Richardson school in October. They described him as a loner. "He was real quiet and he acted down at times. He acted sad," said Koury Kashiem, 15. Lisa Moore, 16, said she knew Jeremy from the in-school suspension program. "He and I would pass notes back and forth and he would talk about life and stuff," she said. She said Jeremy wanted to discuss the boy she was dating and also mentioned that he was having trouble with one of his teachers. He signed all of his notes, "Write back." But on Monday he wrote, "Later days." "I didn't know what to make of it," she said. "But I never thought this would happen." However, Sean Forrester, 17, remembered Jeremy as friendly with no outward signs of turmoil. "He never looked like he had anything wrong with him. . .He always made a joke over everything," Sean said. Jeremy was the son of Joseph R. Delle of Richardson, with whom he lived, and Wanda Crane. The couple divorced in 1979, according to Dallas County court records. Mr. Delle could not be reached for comment. Ms. Crane, through a spokesman, declined to comment. Tuesday's shooting was the first known teen suicide in a Richardson school. It was the first by a Richardson student since 1988, when student suicides prompted the creation of the crisis intervention program in May that year. Three Richardson students committed suicide during the first half of 1988. They included a sixth-grader and two sophomores at J. J. Pearce High School. One of the sophomores hanged himself from a tree behind Mohawk Elementary School during a weekend. In 1985, a 17-year-old Arlington student shot himself in front of four fellow students in the drama classroom at Arlington High School. Earlier, and outbreak of teen suicides in Plano, where eight youths killed themselves in 1983 and 1984, helped focus national attention on the plight of suicidal teen-agers. Students and counselors agreed that the shock of Jeremy's public demise would have a lingering effect on the Richardson students, particularly the witnesses. "They are going to go through a ton of sadness, anxiety and fear," said Sheryl Pender, a counselor with Willow Park Hospital in Plano and former director of the Suicide and Crisis Center in Dallas. Staff writer Jeffrey Weiss contributed to this report.
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  • Eraserhead wrote:
    It's about porn star, Ron Jeremy.

    End. Of. Thread.

    :D


    Jeremy spunked in class today
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  • to me jeremy is about the flag in one sense a sad chapter of life
    and in another my brothers and sisters become a savior
    of all the ones who lie below

    a strong angel from heaven within the songs momentum
    saving jeremy
    thanks to everyone who can read what i write without having to say something mean
  • thanks for all the replies guys.

    now i defo know what its all about.

    cheers
  • I know no one has posted to this in so long, but I just could not look at this and not post about my sweet friend Jeremy Delle. I went to high school with him before he went to Richardson where he took his life. It was Bryan Adams. He sat right next to me and we wrote letters back and forth. I still have the yearbook with his pic in it. (that famous pic you see of him) He would smoke up my cigs all the time. I am so sorry I did not ever tell him of the crush I had on him. Jeremy was a lost soul abused, neglected and just plain looked over. Thrown into a Psych Ward as an answer to his outbursts that were apparently suicidal. The system did not help him when he needed it. He was "cured" when the insurance ran out. I never saw him again after they took him away. His family moved away to Richardson and for 2 months they isolated him (the worst thing to do to a teenager crying out for help). Of course he was a degenerate. It was the only way to get attention. Negative attention but Attention none the less. I guess he finally got to a point where he just could not deal with it anymore. The video does reflect a little of what his life was like. He was ignored by a parent and then unknown by the other-abandoned so to speak. He did live in his own little world where he ruled supreme and his followers were dead below and to him. I always joked because I was born the day before him and I was always older than him. Talk to your kids about suicide and if you feel suicidal seek help. Life really is precious and it sux to leave your loved ones the way Jeremy did. I still hurt inside and it has been 16 years. I sure miss him. The true story of Jeremy is he is no longer suffering and he would be tickled to know his legacy lived on in one of the best songs ever written-Jeremy.
  • This is very interesting. I didn't know that the song was based on the real event and that Jeremy really existed. Jeremy's life ended, but his end made a beginning of a beautiful, powerful song with which many young people can relate to and find in music the solution to their problems.
    En mi vida,
    el oscuro me mantiene
    cuando yo te vi
    en la lluvia me prometiste tu sangre

    Estrella de la mañana
    Samael te persigo a ti
    y si me quedo sin alas
    ademas me muero por ti
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    personally, I've always thought that this song and the music video for it glorified suicide, rather than warning against it. teenage suicide is a very touchy subject. I wonder if any kids who might have been on the brink of suicide to begin with went through with it because of this video.
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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Eraserhead wrote:
    It's about porn star, Ron Jeremy.

    End. Of. Thread.

    :D

    Jeremy's strokin' ?
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