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    disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 1,015
    Does anyone remember why Santa Barbara '03 was never released?

    And call me a pessimist, but considering we haven't had any '96 shows yet, I'm not getting my hopes up anymore.
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    mcdevittpbmcdevittpb Posts: 212
    Wrigleyville July 2013
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    PSUS2HPSUS2H USA Posts: 2,049
    disilluzion said:
    Does anyone remember why Santa Barbara '03 was never released?

    And call me a pessimist, but considering we haven't had any '96 shows yet, I'm not getting my hopes up anymore.
    Holy hell, Santa Barbara '03 was a banga' !!!
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    raforafo Posts: 75
    mcdevittpb said:
    Wrigleyville July 2013
    nice....
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    Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,773
    Seattle October 2003.

    The bank they'd make off that show.

    And yeah, it won't be MSG 98. In addition to what was on the first page, didn't Brett say it would cost major amounts of cash for them to release it?
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    PapPap Aspra Spitia, Greece Posts: 28,355
    edited June 2020
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    KN219077KN219077 Montana Posts: 905
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Seattle October 2003.

    The bank they'd make off that show.

    And yeah, it won't be MSG 98. In addition to what was on the first page, didn't Brett say it would cost major amounts of cash for them to release it?
    I do believe there is a semi steep fee payable to MSG but lots of bands release shows from there so it can’t be outrageous.
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,647
    Repress Benaroya on black vinyl 
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    eboweddieeboweddie Posts: 932
    Is it time for a euro show vault. Some great shows over the years. 

    i wish i wish i wish i wish, i guess it never stops
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,471
    KN219077 said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Seattle October 2003.

    The bank they'd make off that show.

    And yeah, it won't be MSG 98. In addition to what was on the first page, didn't Brett say it would cost major amounts of cash for them to release it?
    I do believe there is a semi steep fee payable to MSG but lots of bands release shows from there so it can’t be outrageous.
    I was under the impression that the fee referred to what they would have to pay that night to record the show... so they never properly recorded it and it’s not available for release. 
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,647
    on2legs said:
    KN219077 said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Seattle October 2003.

    The bank they'd make off that show.

    And yeah, it won't be MSG 98. In addition to what was on the first page, didn't Brett say it would cost major amounts of cash for them to release it?
    I do believe there is a semi steep fee payable to MSG but lots of bands release shows from there so it can’t be outrageous.
    I was under the impression that the fee referred to what they would have to pay that night to record the show... so they never properly recorded it and it’s not available for release. 
    Yep
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    I've said it many times (likely in this thread!), but 1996 or VFC please
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
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    iOnlyownMymindiOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,549
    Is this really going to be the 10th year of doing these?  Man time flies.  
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    SM187650SM187650 Canada Posts: 713
    The choice is clear. London Ontario 2013. Live debut of mind your manners I believe. 
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    SM187650 said:
    The choice is clear. London Ontario 2013. Live debut of mind your manners I believe. 
    Guessing too long unless they add a 4th disc. Most vaults are around 2 hr long shows
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
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    SM187650SM187650 Canada Posts: 713
    I totally get that but it was an amazing show and it’s still unreleased. I’d be happy with a condensed set and I would also be happy to pay a bit more for a 4lp release. 
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,318
    edited June 2020
    I got the impression they didn't tape MSG '98 because of the rules at the venue.   I thought the podcast said there were 2 shows not recorded on that tour.  I can't remember the other one.

    In regards to Benaroya.  I'd be disappointed.   We get 1 vault per year.   While Benaroya is rare on vinyl, it's pretty easy to find on CD.   With both format's it's widely available in professional high quality.   Seems a waste to use a vault as a reissue instead of releasing something unreleased from the vault.   I realize that Soldier Field was sort of like that, except all we had was mediocre boots.   It never had an official release.   My preference for something new would be:

    1) Santa Barbara 2003.  This show seems amazing, acoustic set, TOTD reunion, amazing setlist.  
    1b) One or both of the PJ20 shows
    2) A No Code Tour show - Maybe Randall's Island '96?
    3) Something from the 2004 VFC tour (none of that stuff is released)
    4) One of the 2002 Key Arena shows (maybe show #1) - Those never got released
    5) PJ at the Commodore in 2000 - The day after the bellingham vault.   Only one of 2 shows not released from that tour.  The 2nd one will never be released.
    6) Another show from the no code tour
    7) Missoula '98 - My first PJ headlining show, and Matt's first big show with the band.  This is a completely biased pick by me.
    8) Something from '94.   We've got Atlanta on the dissident singles, but it's incomplete.   There's complete bootlegs form the radio.  The show is amazing.  Maybe release another blistering show from the same tour (I always though the dissident 3 disc set would make an easy RSD release).

    That's my thoughts.  So many unreleased things I want to see before they use a vault on a reissue :(
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    Dr.Teeth and the Electric MayhDr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,178
    Give us a best of from PJ20. There were some duds that weekend, but there were also some real bangers. 
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    huntersthompsonhuntersthompson Posts: 847
    Here we go....1995 Sacramento (Cal Expo Amp) one of 5 times No Jeremy was played...Sonic Reducer...was at the show-so freaking good.
    https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/pearl-jam/1995/cal-expo-amphitheatre-sacramento-ca-53d66335.html

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    disilluziondisilluzion Posts: 1,015
    I don't get why they don't do these quarterly like DMB or Metallica. They have plenty of concerts to do so.

    I could also dream of monthly like Bruce does, but they might run out of shows rather quickly.
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    edited June 2020
    Zod said:
    I got the impression they didn't tape MSG '98 because of the rules at the venue.   I thought the podcast said there were 2 shows not recorded on that tour.  I can't remember the other one.

    In regards to Benaroya.  I'd be disappointed.   We get 1 vault per year.   While Benaroya is rare on vinyl, it's pretty easy to find on CD.   With both format's it's widely available in professional high quality.   Seems a waste to use a vault as a reissue instead of releasing something unreleased from the vault.   I realize that Soldier Field was sort of like that, except all we had was mediocre boots.   It never had an official release.   My preference for something new would be:

    1) Santa Barbara 2003.  This show seems amazing, acoustic set, TOTD reunion, amazing setlist.  
    1b) One or both of the PJ20 shows
    2) A No Code Tour show - Maybe Randall's Island '96?
    3) Something from the 2004 VFC tour (none of that stuff is released)
    4) One of the 2002 Key Arena shows (maybe show #1) - Those never got released
    5) PJ at the Commodore in 2000 - The day after the bellingham vault.   Only one of 2 shows not released from that tour.  The 2nd one will never be released.
    6) Another show from the no code tour
    7) Missoula '98 - My first PJ headlining show, and Matt's first big show with the band.  This is a completely biased pick by me.
    8) Something from '94.   We've got Atlanta on the dissident singles, but it's incomplete.   There's complete bootlegs form the radio.  The show is amazing.  Maybe release another blistering show from the same tour (I always though the dissident 3 disc set would make an easy RSD release).

    That's my thoughts.  So many unreleased things I want to see before they use a vault on a reissue :(
    Agree with a lot of this. There are the 2 showbox, 2 key shows from 02 that would be fine. I'm ok taking a 98 break for another couple. Anything 94 would be fantastic. 96 US or Europe and VFC 04 are ideal. I don't know if santa Barbara 03 is something they would do as a vault but I'd be very happy with it.
    Post edited by NewJPage on
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,318
    NewJPage said:
    Zod said:
    I got the impression they didn't tape MSG '98 because of the rules at the venue.   I thought the podcast said there were 2 shows not recorded on that tour.  I can't remember the other one.

    In regards to Benaroya.  I'd be disappointed.   We get 1 vault per year.   While Benaroya is rare on vinyl, it's pretty easy to find on CD.   With both format's it's widely available in professional high quality.   Seems a waste to use a vault as a reissue instead of releasing something unreleased from the vault.   I realize that Soldier Field was sort of like that, except all we had was mediocre boots.   It never had an official release.   My preference for something new would be:

    1) Santa Barbara 2003.  This show seems amazing, acoustic set, TOTD reunion, amazing setlist.  
    1b) One or both of the PJ20 shows
    2) A No Code Tour show - Maybe Randall's Island '96?
    3) Something from the 2004 VFC tour (none of that stuff is released)
    4) One of the 2002 Key Arena shows (maybe show #1) - Those never got released
    5) PJ at the Commodore in 2000 - The day after the bellingham vault.   Only one of 2 shows not released from that tour.  The 2nd one will never be released.
    6) Another show from the no code tour
    7) Missoula '98 - My first PJ headlining show, and Matt's first big show with the band.  This is a completely biased pick by me.
    8) Something from '94.   We've got Atlanta on the dissident singles, but it's incomplete.   There's complete bootlegs form the radio.  The show is amazing.  Maybe release another blistering show from the same tour (I always though the dissident 3 disc set would make an easy RSD release).

    That's my thoughts.  So many unreleased things I want to see before they use a vault on a reissue :(
    Agree with a lot of this. There are the 2 showbox, 2 key shows from 02 that would be fine. I'm ok taking a 98 break for another couple. Anything 94 would be fantastic. 96 US or Europe and VFC 04 are ideal. I don't know if santa Barbara 03 is something they would do as a vault but I'd be very happy with it.
    Yah I'd like more '98 but there's other things I'd like to see first.   If they did a '98 again, it would be kind of cool to choose one of the Jack Iron's shows.  Maybe one of the Hawaii shows?
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    Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,987
    disilluzion said:
    I don't get why they don't do these quarterly like DMB or Metallica. They have plenty of concerts to do so.

    I could also dream of monthly like Bruce does, but they might run out of shows rather quickly.
    Agreed. I’ve long wanted a TMR Vault like club where we get 3-4 a year for $60. (I’d pay $75 for a DL too)
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,928
    My top three would be:
    1. US tour 96
    2. November shows in 95
    3. Australia/nz 98
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,647
    mcgruff10 said:
    My top three would be:
    1. US tour 96
    2. November shows in 95
    3. Australia/nz 98
    Yes
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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,357
    cp3iverson said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    My top three would be:
    1. US tour 96
    2. November shows in 95
    3. Australia/nz 98
    Yes
    Yes, indeed!
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    Zod said:
    NewJPage said:
    Zod said:
    I got the impression they didn't tape MSG '98 because of the rules at the venue.   I thought the podcast said there were 2 shows not recorded on that tour.  I can't remember the other one.

    In regards to Benaroya.  I'd be disappointed.   We get 1 vault per year.   While Benaroya is rare on vinyl, it's pretty easy to find on CD.   With both format's it's widely available in professional high quality.   Seems a waste to use a vault as a reissue instead of releasing something unreleased from the vault.   I realize that Soldier Field was sort of like that, except all we had was mediocre boots.   It never had an official release.   My preference for something new would be:

    1) Santa Barbara 2003.  This show seems amazing, acoustic set, TOTD reunion, amazing setlist.  
    1b) One or both of the PJ20 shows
    2) A No Code Tour show - Maybe Randall's Island '96?
    3) Something from the 2004 VFC tour (none of that stuff is released)
    4) One of the 2002 Key Arena shows (maybe show #1) - Those never got released
    5) PJ at the Commodore in 2000 - The day after the bellingham vault.   Only one of 2 shows not released from that tour.  The 2nd one will never be released.
    6) Another show from the no code tour
    7) Missoula '98 - My first PJ headlining show, and Matt's first big show with the band.  This is a completely biased pick by me.
    8) Something from '94.   We've got Atlanta on the dissident singles, but it's incomplete.   There's complete bootlegs form the radio.  The show is amazing.  Maybe release another blistering show from the same tour (I always though the dissident 3 disc set would make an easy RSD release).

    That's my thoughts.  So many unreleased things I want to see before they use a vault on a reissue :(
    Agree with a lot of this. There are the 2 showbox, 2 key shows from 02 that would be fine. I'm ok taking a 98 break for another couple. Anything 94 would be fantastic. 96 US or Europe and VFC 04 are ideal. I don't know if santa Barbara 03 is something they would do as a vault but I'd be very happy with it.
    Yah I'd like more '98 but there's other things I'd like to see first.   If they did a '98 again, it would be kind of cool to choose one of the Jack Iron's shows.  Maybe one of the Hawaii shows?
    Fair enough Zod. Let's split the difference and go with early 98 show. I'm down!

    Worst case scenario it will be merely a "good" release, so no matter what we get I'm buying. Just hoping for some diversity 
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
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    NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,304
    mcgruff10 said:
    My top three would be:
    1. US tour 96
    2. November shows in 95
    3. Australia/nz 98
    Happy with any of these
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
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