Song Survival - Ten Era "Extras"

rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
edited April 2020 in The Porch
Final Results
1. Footsteps 
2. Wash
3. Breath
4. State of Love and Trust
5. Yellow Ledbetter
6. Hold On
7. Alone
8. Brother 
9. Just A Girl
10. Let Me Sleep
11. Master/Slave
12. Dirty Frank
13. 2000 Mile Blues
14. Evil Little Goat

Previous Results

Ten: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285541/song-survival-ten/p1?new=1
Vs: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285556/song-survival-vs/p1?new=1
Vitalogy: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285575/song-survival-vitalogy/p1?new=1
No Code: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285589/song-survival-no-code/p1
Yield: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285602/song-survival-yield/p1
Binaural: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285614/song-survival-binaural/p1
Riot Act: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285631/song-survival-riot-act/p1
Pearl Jam: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285635/song-survival-pearl-jam/p1
Backspacer: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285657/song-survival-backspacer/p1?new=1
Lightning Bolt: https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/285671/song-survival-lightning-bolt/p1

General Rules (please abide)
1. You have to deduct two points and add one point. 
2. Only one point may be deducted per song.
3. Please wait at least 30 minutes between each of your own votes.
4. Keeping rule #3 in mind, you may vote again either after six other users have voted or six hours have passed - whichever comes first.
5. Please "double check" after you post and ensure that someone else hasn't posted at the same time. It helps with keeping track of the scores.
6. Please only eliminate one song per post (e.g., if two songs are down to one point each, don't eliminate them both). This will help with final rankings.
7. Once the number of songs is down to two, just subtract one point from one song.
8. The last song remaining wins!

Group – Ten Era "Extras" (1991-1992)
(# points - song title)
10 – Breath
10 – State of Love and Trust
10 – Wash
10 – Dirty Frank
10 – Footsteps
10 – Yellow Ledbetter
10 – Alone
10 – Hold On
10 – Brother
10 – Just A Girl
10 – Evil Little Goat
10 – 2000 Mile Blues
10 – Let Me Sleep
10 – Master/Slave*

* Since "Hummus" was included in the Yield round, I then felt that I maybe should have included this piece of music in the Ten round. We'll give it a chance here. Disagree? Well then just vote it off! :-)
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  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    edited April 2020

    I hope the fans of the Lost Dogs compilation won’t be too upset with me as there will be no “Song Survival” rounds for this release. Keep in mind that we will acknowledge most of the songs on Lost Dogs but, as an alternative, I’m grouping the songs chronologically. Within each grouping, I’ll also include essential non-album tracks found on soundtracks, EP’s, reissues, and Christmas singles.

    The songs will be separated into three groups as follows:

    Group 1: Ten Era (1991-1992) Non-Album Tracks

    Group 2: Vs-Yield Eras (1993-1998) Non-Album Tracks

    Group 3: Binaural Era and Beyond (1999-present) Non-Album Tracks

    Admittedly, some arguments can be made about which era a particular song belongs. For example, both “Alone” and “Hold On” have a connection to both Group 1 and Group 2 but I put them in the former as multiple sources list them as Ten outtakes. Admittedly, placing these two songs in Group 1 also helps “balance” out the three groups.

    Keep in mind, there are A LOT of non-album tracks associated with Pearl Jam so I did my best to streamline things.

    For a song to be eligible for one of the three groups listed above, it has to meet the following requirements:

    1. It must be a PJ original – no covers. Therefore, songs like “Last Kiss” and “Crazy Mary” will not be included.

    2. It must be a “Pearl Jam” song according to pearljam.com – no collaborations or solo work. Therefore, songs like “Hunger Strike,” “Real Thing,” and “Setting Forth” will not be included.

    3. It must be included in the in the Songs list at pearljam.com. Therefore, demos like “Cold Concession” and “Let it Ride” will not be included since they aren’t listed.

    4. It must be an “official release” according to the Songs list at pearljam.com. Therefore, songs like “F**k Me in The Brain” and “Sick o’ Pussies” will not be included. I might make an exception to this, mind you, in Group 3.

    Hopefully I won’t make any major errors or omissions over the next three rounds.  Admittedly, I did quite a bit of “fact checking” before I organized these three groups but there is still a chance I didn’t get it quite right. It happens.

     

    Enjoy!

     

    Post edited by rummy on
  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    Gigaton on Thursday.
  • vitovito Chicago Posts: 2,029
    Ok well a song like Hard To Imagine goes all the way back to 91-92 but, didn't get released to 98' so is this not getting a listing cause this is a seminal song that has to be available to vote on.
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1992
    SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
    THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
    ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
    HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
    TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
    AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
    VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
    NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
    PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
    PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
    1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
    IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
    XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
    CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016 
    CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
    CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
    CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
    BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
    ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
    Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008

  • vitovito Chicago Posts: 2,029
    edited April 2020
    (# points - song title)
    10 – Breath
    10 – State of Love and Trust
    11 – Wash +
    9.  – Dirty Frank -
    10 – Footsteps
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    9   – Evil Little Goat -
    10 – 2000 Mile Blues
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    10 – Master/Slave*
    Post edited by vito on
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1992
    SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
    THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
    ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
    HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
    TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
    AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
    VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
    NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
    PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
    PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
    1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
    IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
    XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
    CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016 
    CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
    CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
    CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
    BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
    ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
    Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008

  • rummyrummy Posts: 4,436
    vito said:
    Ok well a song like Hard To Imagine goes all the way back to 91-92 but, didn't get released to 98' so is this not getting a listing cause this is a seminal song that has to be available to vote on.
    Yeah. Difficult to draw lines. Both HTI and Angel were considered for this category. They are both in the next one.
  • vitovito Chicago Posts: 2,029
    rummy said:
    vito said:
    Ok well a song like Hard To Imagine goes all the way back to 91-92 but, didn't get released to 98' so is this not getting a listing cause this is a seminal song that has to be available to vote on.
    Yeah. Difficult to draw lines. Both HTI and Angel were considered for this category. They are both in the next one.
    Ok
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1992
    SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
    THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
    ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
    HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
    TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
    AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
    VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
    NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
    PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
    PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
    1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
    IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
    XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
    CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016 
    CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
    CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
    CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
    BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
    ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
    Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008

  • tino_11tino_11 Posts: 2,099
    11 – Breath +
    10 – State of Love and Trust
    11 – Wash 
    9.  – Dirty Frank 
    10 – Footsteps
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    8  – Evil Little Goat -
    9 – 2000 Mile Blues -
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    10 – Master/Slave*
    'F*** the pessimists. F*** 'em.' Eddie Vedder
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,462
    edited April 2020
    11 – Breath
    10 – State of Love and Trust
    11 Wash 
    8 – Dirty Frank -
    11 – Footsteps +
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    7 – Evil Little Goat -
    9 2000 Mile Blues
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    10 – Master/Slave
  • petted101petted101 Posts: 190
    11 – Breath
    11 – State of Love and Trust +
    11 Wash 
    9 – Dirty Frank -
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    6 – Evil Little Goat -
    9 2000 Mile Blues
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    10 – Master/Slave

    This is a very strong list making it a harder choice than some of the albums. Gone with State of Love and Trust as the original kicks ass (recent live attempts are very questionable).
  • vitovito Chicago Posts: 2,029
    petted101 said:
    11 – Breath
    11 – State of Love and Trust +
    11 Wash 
    9 – Dirty Frank -
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    6 – Evil Little Goat -
    9 2000 Mile Blues
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    10 – Master/Slave

    This is a very strong list making it a harder choice than some of the albums. Gone with State of Love and Trust as the original kicks ass (recent live attempts are very questionable).
    Edit you added on Dirty Frank instead of taking away 
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1992
    SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
    THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
    ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
    ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
    HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
    TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
    AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
    VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
    UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
    NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
    PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
    PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
    1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
    IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
    XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
    CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016 
    CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
    CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
    CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
    BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
    ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
    Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008

  • PapPap Posts: 28,775
    11 – Breath
    11 – State of Love and Trust
    11 Wash 
    8 – Dirty Frank (+)
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    5 – Evil Little Goat (-)
    9 2000 Mile Blues
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    9 – Master/Slave (-)
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  • petted101petted101 Posts: 190
    vito said:
    petted101 said:
    11 – Breath
    11 – State of Love and Trust +
    11 Wash 
    9 – Dirty Frank -
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    6 – Evil Little Goat -
    9 2000 Mile Blues
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    10 – Master/Slave

    This is a very strong list making it a harder choice than some of the albums. Gone with State of Love and Trust as the original kicks ass (recent live attempts are very questionable).
    Edit you added on Dirty Frank instead of taking away 
    Apologies. Thanks for fixing.
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,152
    edited April 2020
    11 – Breath
    11 – State of Love and Trust
    10 Wash -
    8 – Dirty Frank 
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    11 – Hold On +
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    4 – Evil Little Goat (-)
    9 2000 Mile Blues
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    9 – Master/Slave 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,429
    11 – Breath
    11 – State of Love and Trust
    11 Wash +
    8 – Dirty Frank 
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    11 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    3 – Evil Little Goat (-)
    8 - 2000 Mile Blues (-)
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    9 – Master/Slave 
  • 12 – Breath +
    11 – State of Love and Trust
    11 Wash
    8 – Dirty Frank 
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    11 – Hold On
    10 – Brother
    10   – Just A Girl 
    2 – Evil Little Goat (-)
    7 - 2000 Mile Blues (-)
    10 – Let Me Sleep
    9 – Master/Slave 
    I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side.
    I am right by your side.
  • NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    12 – Breath 
    11 – State of Love and Trust
    11 Wash
    8 – Dirty Frank 
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On -
    10 – Brother
    11  – Just A Girl +
    2 – Evil Little Goat 
    7 - 2000 Mile Blues 
    9 – Let Me Sleep -
    9 – Master/Slave 
  • NewfieintheUSANewfieintheUSA Posts: 2,416
    edited April 2020
    This is going to be super tough, so many great  songs and favorites of mine on this list.
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,462
    12 – Breath 
    11 – State of Love and Trust
    12 Wash +
    7 Dirty Frank -
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    11  – Just A Girl 
    1 – Evil Little Goat -
    7 - 2000 Mile Blues 
    9 – Let Me Sleep 
    9 – Master/Slave 
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,429
    This is going to be super tough, so many great  songs and favorites of mine on this list.
    Ya this is going to be nuts having to decide when this gets down to 5 left. So many deserve the top spot. 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,152
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,365
    12 – Breath 
    11 – State of Love and Trust
    12 Wash 
    6 Dirty Frank (-)
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    12  – Just A Girl (+)
    0 – Evil Little Goat (-)
    7 - 2000 Mile Blues 
    9 – Let Me Sleep 
    9 – Master/Slave 
  • D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,835
    12 – Breath 
    12 State of Love and Trust + 
    12 Wash 
    5 Dirty Frank (-)
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    12  – Just A Girl 
    0 – Evil Little Goat 
    6 - 2000 Mile Blues  -
    9 – Let Me Sleep 
    9 – Master/Slave 
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    2014.....Detroit
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    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,152
    edited April 2020
    13 – Breath +
    12 State of Love and Trust 
    11 Wash -
    5 Dirty Frank
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    12  – Just A Girl 
    5 - 2000 Mile Blues -
    9 – Let Me Sleep 
    9 – Master/Slave 

    GONE:

    ELG
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Posts: 3,462
    What’s wrong with Wash?! I mean really, with all these songs left, this is what you deduct from?!  :o 
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,152
    edited April 2020
    JPPJ84 said:
    What’s wrong with Wash?! I mean really, with all these songs left, this is what you deduct from?!  :o 
    It's good.

    But definitely the least great song on the album Ten.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CPR7CPR7 Posts: 366
    14 – Breath +
    12 State of Love and Trust 
    11 Wash 
    4 - Dirty Frank -
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    12  – Just A Girl 
    4 - 2000 Mile Blues -
    9 – Let Me Sleep 
    9 – Master/Slave 

    GONE:

    ELG

  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,322
    15 – Breath +
    12 State of Love and Trust 
    11 Wash 
    4 - Dirty Frank 
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    12  – Just A Girl 
    3-2000 Mile Blues -
    8– Let Me Sleep -
    9 – Master/Slave 

    GONE:

    ELG
  • PapPap Posts: 28,775
    15 – Breath
    12 State of Love and Trust 
    11 Wash 
    4 - Dirty Frank 
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    12  – Just A Girl 
    4 - 2000 Mile Blues (+)
    7 – Let Me Sleep (-)
    8 – Master/Slave (-)

    GONE:

    ELG
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024
  • 15 – Breath 
    12 State of Love and Trust 
    12 Wash +
    4 - Dirty Frank 
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    10 – Alone
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    12  – Just A Girl 
    3 - 2000 Mile Blues -
    7 – Let Me Sleep
    7 – Master/Slave -

    GONE:

    ELG
    I am lost, I'm no guide, but I'm by your side.
    I am right by your side.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,526
    15 – Breath 
    12 State of Love and Trust 
    12 Wash
    4 - Dirty Frank 
    11 – Footsteps 
    10 – Yellow Ledbetter
    11 – Alone +
    10 – Hold On 
    10 – Brother
    11  – Just A Girl -
    2 - 2000 Mile Blues -
    7 – Let Me Sleep
    7 – Master/Slave
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