2 of my all time favorite PJ songs. PT is actually my favorite PJ song. To each, their own.
and Marker is fucking great.
Do you think your love for PT is influenced by its live versions? I think it’s pretty meh on the album but it would rise to the top if I solely based my ranking on many of the bootleg performances.
Sorry--just now seeing this. PT hit me like a ton of bricks when I first heard it on the album. The lyrics and jam at the end are perfect to my ears. But, I get it...we all have different tastes & that's more than cool.
2 of my all time favorite PJ songs. PT is actually my favorite PJ song. To each, their own.
and Marker is fucking great.
Do you think your love for PT is influenced by its live versions? I think it’s pretty meh on the album but it would rise to the top if I solely based my ranking on many of the bootleg performances.
Sorry--just now seeing this. PT hit me like a ton of bricks when I first heard it on the album. The lyrics and jam at the end are perfect to my ears. But, I get it...we all have different tastes & that's more than cool.
It's a great song on the album and even better live, I have no idea how some people think it's not good on the album.
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2 of my all time favorite PJ songs. PT is actually my favorite PJ song. To each, their own.
and Marker is fucking great.
Do you think your love for PT is influenced by its live versions? I think it’s pretty meh on the album but it would rise to the top if I solely based my ranking on many of the bootleg performances.
Sorry--just now seeing this. PT hit me like a ton of bricks when I first heard it on the album. The lyrics and jam at the end are perfect to my ears. But, I get it...we all have different tastes & that's more than cool.
And when I say “meh” for the studio version of PT, it’s by Pearl Jam’s standards... a solid tune, regardless.
2 of my all time favorite PJ songs. PT is actually my favorite PJ song. To each, their own.
and Marker is fucking great.
Do you think your love for PT is influenced by its live versions? I think it’s pretty meh on the album but it would rise to the top if I solely based my ranking on many of the bootleg performances.
Sorry--just now seeing this. PT hit me like a ton of bricks when I first heard it on the album. The lyrics and jam at the end are perfect to my ears. But, I get it...we all have different tastes & that's more than cool.
And when I say “meh” for the studio version of PT, it’s by Pearl Jam’s standards... a solid tune, regardless.
Well average songs just dont become great live, it's not how it works. Saying a song is better live than on the album is fine but, 99% of the time it's a bad song that's getting that tag. Present Tense is a very good to great song and that's why it's amazing live.
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I guess I feel that Pearl Jam’s songs have more passion (I really feel this way about PT - and Release and Immortality) when I listen to particular live renditions. The production of some of their studio recordings doesn’t exude the emotion that an in-the-moment performance exudes.
I guess I feel that Pearl Jam’s songs have more passion (I really feel this way about PT - and Release and Immortality) when I listen to particular live renditions. The production of some of their studio recordings doesn’t exude the emotion that an in-the-moment performance exudes.
And that's fine and to some extent true but, those 3 songs were heard first by the buying public on the album before again 99% of the fanbase saw them live. They fell in love with the song from the album because their great songs pure and simple. Now if you want to say you're sick of hearing them well that's another debate.
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To follow up the last point being of course there's going to be more passion when you see or hear the song live cause' their performing it but, if anything the biggest reason why those songs stand out over other songs on their respective albums is the undeniable passion they were recorded with. Jesus Release is a torturous experience by Eddie especially through headphones.
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I guess I feel that Pearl Jam’s songs have more passion (I really feel this way about PT - and Release and Immortality) when I listen to particular live renditions. The production of some of their studio recordings doesn’t exude the emotion that an in-the-moment performance exudes.
And that's fine and to some extent true but, those 3 songs were heard first by the buying public on the album before again 99% of the fanbase saw them live. They fell in love with the song from the album because their great songs pure and simple. Now if you want to say you're sick of hearing them well that's another debate.
I guess that's just it. I didn't fall in love with the songs from the album. Songs like Release and Present Tense (and Parting Ways ... and Off He Goes ...) didn't resonate with me when I heard them on their respective albums. I guess you could argue that I wasn't as big as a PJ fan as I am now until I heard their bootlegs. I mean, I've always loved "Alive," "Black," and most of Vs,Vitalogy, and Yield (notice that I haven't mentioned any of their songs) but the most of the rest "came to me" once I heard the live stuff.
I guess I feel that Pearl Jam’s songs have more passion (I really feel this way about PT - and Release and Immortality) when I listen to particular live renditions. The production of some of their studio recordings doesn’t exude the emotion that an in-the-moment performance exudes.
And that's fine and to some extent true but, those 3 songs were heard first by the buying public on the album before again 99% of the fanbase saw them live. They fell in love with the song from the album because their great songs pure and simple. Now if you want to say you're sick of hearing them well that's another debate.
I guess that's just it. I didn't fall in love with the songs from the album. Songs like Release and Present Tense (and Parting Ways ... and Off He Goes ...) didn't resonate with me when I heard them on their respective albums. I guess you could argue that I wasn't as big as a PJ fan as I am now until I heard their bootlegs. I mean, I've always loved "Alive," "Black," and most of Vs,Vitalogy, and Yield (notice that I haven't mentioned any of their songs) but the most of the rest "came to me" once I heard the live stuff.
I suppose we could debate this all night. :-)
And that's beyond cool that that's your experience of how these songs came to you but, I would definitely say it's backwards to how most people fell in love we these songs.
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Might be one of my favorites
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4. Gonna See My Friend
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IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
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ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
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ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
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ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008
I suppose we could debate this all night. :-)
SUMMERFEST MILWAUKEE 1995
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 1998
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO1998
THOMPSON-BOLING ARENA KNOXVILLE 1998
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2000
ALLSTATE ARENA ROSEMONT 2000
ALPINE VALLEY MUSIC THEATRE 2003
HERSHEYPARK STADIUM 2003
TOLEDO SPORTS ARENA 2004
AIR CANADA CENTRE TORONTO 2005
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2006
VERIZON CENTER DC 2008
UNITED CENTER CHICAGO 2009
NATIONWIDE ARENA COLUMBUS 2010
PJ20 NIGHT 1 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
PJ20 NIGHT 2 Alpine Valley Music Theatre 2011
1ST MARINER ARENA BALTIMORE 2013
IWIRELESS CENTER MOLINE 2014
XCEL ENERGY CENTER ST. PAUL 2014
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2016
CHICAGO 1 Wrigley Field 2018
CHICAGO 2 Wrigley Field 2018
BOSTON 2 Fenway Park 2018
ENTERPRISE CENTER SAINT LOUIS 2022
Eddie Vedder Auditorium Theatre CHICAGO 2008