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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Biden
    Lerxst1992 said:
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    mfc2006 said:
    He is a massive piece of shit and I look forward to the day when I don't hear about him constantly. He can fuck right off. He made his bed, now he has to lie down in it...just like Rudy was doing. Fucking disgusting pieces of shit.
    He might be "gone" in a few weeks but his racist xenophobic supporters are still around.
    In the government 
    In the media
    In your family and mine
    On this site
    Everywhere 


    With 75 million votes trumps movement is here to stay. But some say we should remind them of the people they used to be. Sounds like it will work.
    ...AND be the best people WE can be.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,814
    https://twitter.com/rorycooper/status/1332716262670131201?s=21
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,550
    Biden
     Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismisses lawsuit against mail ballots with prejudice in another defeat for Trump
    By Elise Viebeck



    Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismisses lawsuit against mail ballots with prejudice in another defeat for Trump
    By Elise Viebeck
    November 28 at 8:06 PM EST

    The Pennsylvania Supreme Court dismissed with prejudice a Republican lawsuit seeking to invalidate more than 2.5 million votes cast by mail in the general election, the latest in a string of legal defeats for the GOP as President Trump fails to undo his losses in key battleground states.
    Justices on the state high court ruled unanimously late Saturday that Republican petitioners waited too long to file their suit challenging Act 77, the 2019 law that established universal mail voting in Pennsylvania. Trump allies had asked the court to invalidate all votes cast by mail in the most recent election or direct the majority-Republican legislature to choose a slate of presidential electors.
    The court’s written order called the latter option “extraordinary,” noting that it would disenfranchise 6.9 million voters.
    “The want of due diligence demonstrated in this matter is unmistakable,” the justices wrote, noting that the lawsuit was filed “more than one year” after no-excuse mail voting was enacted in Pennsylvania. The order blamed petitioners for a “complete failure to act with due diligence in commencing their facial constitutional challenge, which was ascertainable upon Act 77’s enactment.”
    Concurring, Justice David N. Wecht noted that the GOP petitioners “failed to allege that even a single mail-in ballot was fraudulently cast or counted.”
    Legal experts had predicted little chance of success for the suit, which also sought to block certification of election results. Trump and his allies have gained no substantive traction across more than two dozen cases trying to undermine President-elect Joe Biden’s win since Election Day.
    The ruling followed a procedural setback for the petitioners on Wednesday, when a temporary order blocking further certification of election results was stayed on appeal from state officials who had already formalized Biden’s win the previous day. The state asked the Pennsylvania Supreme Court to exercise extraordinary jurisdiction in the case, a request it granted as part of Saturday night’s order.
    “BREAKING: We just notched another win for democracy,” Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Stein (D) tweeted Saturday evening.
    In a separate blow to Trump, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit on Friday rejected his request for an emergency injunction to overturn the certification of Pennsylvania’s election results. The lawsuit claimed Republicans were illegally disadvantaged because some Democratic-leaning counties in the state allowed voters to correct administrative errors on their mail ballots.
    The 3rd Circuit said the case had “no merit” in a scathing opinion written by Judge Stephanos Bibas, who was appointed to the court by Trump.
    Trump attorney Jenna Ellis said in an interview with OAN on Saturday that the team is still weighing its options for bringing a Pennsylvania case to the U.S. Supreme Court.
    “There are multiple vehicles and ways to get to the Supreme Court. That may be through the 3rd Circuit, it may be through other means,” she said.
    “This has become a ridiculous political game,” she wrote, adding that the post-election litigation represents a “fight for the very integrity of our entire system.”
    Keith Newell, Aaron Schaffer, Jon Swaine and Michelle Ye Hee Lee contributed.





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  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
    so fuckstick paid 3 million to essentially give biden a cumulative 87 more votes......
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,537
    Biden
    I saw "pennsylvania bombshell" trending on twitter a bit ago. incredible the lengths trumpsters will go to to make these things sound legit. 

    a hashtag won't change the election, idiots. 
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I saw "pennsylvania bombshell" trending on twitter a bit ago. incredible the lengths trumpsters will go to to make these things sound legit. 

    a hashtag won't change the election, idiots. 
    I get the sense more and more of these people think it's over. Well, at least from the dopey "friends" of mine who voted for him on facebook.

    The fact that the news doesn't cover it as much and when they do they're pointing out how wrong his claims are, has to be helping, I would think. 

    We don't even have the usual Trumpier suspects in here claiming he won. 

    I could be wrong, though. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,384
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    I saw "pennsylvania bombshell" trending on twitter a bit ago. incredible the lengths trumpsters will go to to make these things sound legit. 

    a hashtag won't change the election, idiots. 
    I get the sense more and more of these people think it's over. Well, at least from the dopey "friends" of mine who voted for him on facebook.

    The fact that the news doesn't cover it as much and when they do they're pointing out how wrong his claims are, has to be helping, I would think. 

    We don't even have the usual Trumpier suspects in here claiming he won. 

    I could be wrong, though. 
    Too busy preparing for the coup.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Biden
    i think many are legitimately holding out hope that the EC is going to just vote trump and he gets a second term. 
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  • The Juggler
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    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i think many are legitimately holding out hope that the EC is going to just vote trump and he gets a second term. 
    One guy who I went to high school with got all excited after that horrible Rudy press conference the other week. The one where Sidney Powell was talking about algorithms and releasing a kraken or something. He said something like "Trump supporters broke the algorithm by voting on election day! So glad I voted in person!!" Then he posted one of those links that said he was interested in attending Trump's inauguration on 1/20. lol. I was so tempted to say something but I didn't.

    Anyway.....people like him have been real quiet since they canned Powell and states started certifying..
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Biden
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    i think many are legitimately holding out hope that the EC is going to just vote trump and he gets a second term. 
    One guy who I went to high school with got all excited after that horrible Rudy press conference the other week. The one where Sidney Powell was talking about algorithms and releasing a kraken or something. He said something like "Trump supporters broke the algorithm by voting on election day! So glad I voted in person!!" Then he posted one of those links that said he was interested in attending Trump's inauguration on 1/20. lol. I was so tempted to say something but I didn't.

    Anyway.....people like him have been real quiet since they canned Powell and states started certifying..
    They didn't can powell. she was always working independently on her own. LOL
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    The courts are going very badly for Trump Team Treason.*  Going against the "norms" of the Electoral College is probably all that's left.  But that's still mainstream.

    *I switched the order of the words, so as not to get sued.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,384
    OnWis97 said:
    The courts are going very badly for Trump Team Treason.*  Going against the "norms" of the Electoral College is probably all that's left.  But that's still mainstream.

    *I switched the order of the words, so as not to get sued.

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  • HughFreakingDillon
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  • Merkin Baller
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    This is fine. I’m sure the adults in the room will be stepping up any minute now. 

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,384
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    Suckers

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-raises-more-than-150-million-appealing-to-false-election-claims/2020/11/30/82e922e6-3347-11eb-afe6-e4dbee9689f8_story.html

    The surge of donations is largely from small-dollar donors, campaign officials say, tapping into the president’s base of loyal and fervent donors who tend to contribute the most when they feel the president is under siege or facing unfair political attacks. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    19. "I would like to file one nice, big, beautiful lawsuit, talking about this and many other things, with tremendous proof."

    an actual trump quote from an interview on fox news. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    19. "I would like to file one nice, big, beautiful lawsuit, talking about this and many other things, with tremendous proof."

    an actual trump quote from an interview on fox news. 
    Nah that doesn't sound like him at all. 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,217
    Biden
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    19. "I would like to file one nice, big, beautiful lawsuit, talking about this and many other things, with tremendous proof."

    an actual trump quote from an interview on fox news. 
    did the trumpers all swoon after he said it?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    Biden
    You're welcome, America
    https://fusion.inquirer.com/politics/election/philadelphia-suburbs-2020-election-20201129.html

    The Philadelphia suburbs were the key to Joe Biden’s Pennsylvania victory. Here are the numbers.

    Biden’s victory margin was 105,000 votes better than what Hillary Clinton amassed in 2016. That was more than enough to offset the gains Trump made in smaller counties across the state.


    In Pennsylvania, a state President-elect Joe Biden won by 81,000 votes — and President Donald Trump won four years ago by 44,000 — every vote mattered.

    And Philadelphia’s suburbs delivered.

    In Bucks, Chester, Delaware, and Montgomery Counties Biden expanded the total margin of victory by nearly 105,000 votes over what Hillary Clinton amassed in her loss in 2016. That was more than enough to offset the gains Trump made in smaller counties across the state, even despite a somewhat disappointing Democratic performance in Philadelphia.

    “If Philly didn’t perform up to all expectations for Democrats, the suburbs did. They really, really did,” said Chris Borick, a political science professor at Muhlenberg College and pollster who heads its Institute of Public Opinion. “If you’re looking for one big thing, you’d go to the Philly suburbs. Those margins … were just off the charts.”

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    Biden picked up votes in towns all across the collar counties, a coalition of municipalities large and small that includes a wide range of political and cultural communities, according to an Inquirer analysis of precinct- and municipal-level data. The analysis, which examined the results in all 238 municipalities in Bucks, Chester, Delaware, and Montgomery Counties, found that:

    • The number of votes cast for either Biden or Trump increased in all but three municipalities over the total cast for Clinton and Trump in 2016.

    • Ninety percent of the towns shifted further to the left than four years ago, with 213 giving Biden a greater share of their two-party vote than they did Clinton. Twenty-five shifted right.

    • 136 towns voted for both Clinton and Biden, but his margin was bigger in 119 of them.

    • Trump won 67 towns in both elections, although 59 of them shifted left this time and eight of them shifted to the right.

    • Thirty-five towns that Trump won in 2016 flipped this year and gave more support to Biden.

    • No municipality in the Philadelphia suburbs that Clinton won four years ago flipped this year to Trump.

    Biden’s boost wasn’t just in one kind of suburb. His performance stretched across the region, encompassing Democratic bastions of wealthy, white, and well-educated voters such as Lower Merion, where he picked up the biggest gain in net votes, or Haverford, or Abington — as well as racially and ethnically mixed inner suburbs, such as Upper Darby, which had the second-highest net gain in votes, and Yeadon, which is largely Black and continued to vote heavily for Democrats.

    The numbers are eye-popping, but also fit broader patterns: The Philadelphia suburbs don’t stand out because they defy long-term trends or the movement in the rest of the state, but because of those shifts and trends.

    It’s not just that the Philadelphia suburbs voted heavily for Biden — they’ve been getting bluer for two decades now. Or that turnout surged everywhere — in all 67 counties, Biden drew more than Clinton, and Trump topped his totals from four years ago. Or that suburbs across the state delivered strong numbers for Biden, including outside Pittsburgh and around smaller cities such as in Dauphin, Cumberland, Northampton, and Lackawanna Counties.

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    » READ MORE: The Philly suburbs aren’t the only suburbs where Democrats are on the rise in Pennsylvania

    It’s the size of the Philadelphia suburbs — and their growing, educated, increasingly racially and ethnically diverse electorate — that makes them key for Democrats. Even relatively small shifts in turnout and vote share can mean a difference of tens or even hundreds of thousands of votes.

    That’s what happened this year: Turnout rose as towns shifted left.

    Statewide, the number of presidential votes cast rose by more than 13% this year. The votes cast for either the Democratic or Republican nominee in particular rose by 16%.

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    Delaware County’s two-party vote was up, though below the statewide average, but the other counties exceeded it: Bucks, Montgomery, and Chester Counties each rose close to or just above 20%.

    That points to another big difference in 2020: While the Libertarian, Green, and Constitution party candidates won 3.6% of the vote in Pennsylvania four years ago, third-party candidates won just 1.1% in 2020. Notably, the Green Party candidate was removed from the ballot in Pennsylvania.

    Overall, the two-party vote in the four counties rose by 18.3% — an increase of 237,000 votes, from 1.3 million in 2016 to more than 1.5 million this year.

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    That’s a significant number of additional votes. But it’s not enough on its own to explain Biden’s win.

    After all, turnout rose in other counties, too. In the 54 counties that Trump won in both 2016 and 2020, the two-party votes increased by 17.8%. That’s a smaller rise than in the Philadelphia suburbs, but it’s a growth of 445,000 votes from 2.5 million in 2016 to more than 2.9 million this year.

    That’s where the shift in votes comes in.

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    Although it’s easy to paint the Philadelphia suburbs with a broad brush, the reality is there are dozens — hundreds — of communities, cultures, and subcultures there, making up a complicated quilt of political leanings. And it was a shift all across those communities that gave Biden huge numbers.

    It’s not just turnout that matters, or just the vote share — it’s the combination of the two and the ultimate margin of victory.

    Consider Philadelphia. Biden received nearly 20,000 more votes than Clinton did in the deep-blue city. But Trump also received more support in Philadelphia this year — 24,000 more votes.

    So even though Biden’s 471,000 votes in the city was more than any past Democratic presidential candidate, and even though Philadelphia still voted heavily Democratic, his net vote, or share of the total cast, was actually lower than Clinton’s.

    » READ MORE: Philly was supposed to turn out huge for Biden. It didn’t. What happened?

    And those are the numbers that add up, because candidates aren’t starting with a blank map. By taking the 2016 map as a baseline, looking at the difference in votes allows us to see how this election compares.

    That’s how Lower Merion, for example, ends up being such a powerful driver of votes. The town was already blue, and shifted slightly left, going from voting 78.1% for Clinton to 79.1% for Biden. The total number of votes cast for either party’s nominee increased by 16%.

    That rate is lower than the rest of the suburbs, but because Lower Merion has the largest number of Biden and Clinton votes of any town in the area, the increase in turnout and its leftward shift meant more than 4,000 net votes for Biden. That alone was nearly enough to offset the decreased net Biden votes from Philadelphia.

    Despite Biden’s strong performance, Trump clearly retained some appeal in the suburbs. For example, the working- and middle-class towns of Bensalem and Bristol in Lower Bucks County both continued to shift to the right — four years after Trump drew more support there than the GOP nominee in 2012, Mitt Romney.

    Biden still won Bensalem and Bristol, but the Democrats’ slide there reflects the party’s broader struggles among white voters without college degrees.

    At the same time, however, Biden made inroads in affluent, well-educated, and predominantly white towns that Trump won in 2016. In Central Bucks, for example, Warrington, Warminster, and Upper Makefield all flipped this year for Biden.

    » READ MORE: Suburban voters in Pennsylvania rejected Trump — but not the Republican Party

    It will be difficult for Democrats to replicate Biden’s dominating performance in the region.

    Dave Wasserman, an elections analyst with the nonpartisan Cook Political Report, said Democrats could possibly build on their margins for the next presidential election. At the same time, he said, the party could see more defections beyond the cities and their ring collars from voters who might have liked Biden — but not the Democrats “brand” as a whole.

    “So this election,” he said, “points to Pennsylvania continuing to be a highly competitive state in the future.”

    Staff writer Chris A. Williams contributed to this article.

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    Biden
    Philadelphia obviously cheated.  Rudy will show you any day now. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......

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