Gigaton debuts at #5

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1. Weeknd
2. +60
3. Lil Uzi vert
4. Dua lipa

5. Gigaton 

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,154
    edited April 2020
    At least because of the agreement with Nirvana, they didn't drop a competing release pushing PJ down to 6.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,843
    Ties Riot Act for lowest PJ album debut I believe. Not counting Ten of course which I doubt even debuted on the charts, but eventually peaked at #2. 
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  • JedJed New York City Posts: 1,175
    At least because of the agreement with Nirvana, they didn't drop a competing release pushing PJ down to 6.
    What agreement, and what Nirvana album is on the horizion?
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,154
    Jed said:
    At least because of the agreement with Nirvana, they didn't drop a competing release pushing PJ down to 6.
    What agreement, and what Nirvana album is on the horizion?
    No Nirvana album on the horizon. It was a joke.

    The agreement, and I googled but couldn't find a source now, is that Pearl Jam and Nirvana doesn't release things at the same time. If I remember correctly, Nirvana pushed their greatest hits album back in 2002 because Pearl Jam was releasing Riot Act. Etc.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • NewJPageNewJPage Posts: 3,309
    Jed said:
    At least because of the agreement with Nirvana, they didn't drop a competing release pushing PJ down to 6.
    What agreement, and what Nirvana album is on the horizion?
    No Nirvana album on the horizon. It was a joke.

    The agreement, and I googled but couldn't find a source now, is that Pearl Jam and Nirvana doesn't release things at the same time. If I remember correctly, Nirvana pushed their greatest hits album back in 2002 because Pearl Jam was releasing Riot Act. Etc.
    Nirvana greatest hits was delayed because of fight with courtney over the box set. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,154
    edited April 2020
    NewJPage said:
    Jed said:
    At least because of the agreement with Nirvana, they didn't drop a competing release pushing PJ down to 6.
    What agreement, and what Nirvana album is on the horizion?
    No Nirvana album on the horizon. It was a joke.

    The agreement, and I googled but couldn't find a source now, is that Pearl Jam and Nirvana doesn't release things at the same time. If I remember correctly, Nirvana pushed their greatest hits album back in 2002 because Pearl Jam was releasing Riot Act. Etc.
    Nirvana greatest hits was delayed because of fight with courtney over the box set. 
    Maybe I used "pushed" wrong. It was pushed back, not pushed forward. Nirvanas Greatest Hits was released before Riot Act. So, "pulled back" maybe is more correct(?) 

    I am certain I have read this was because of not releasing at the same time as Riot Act to honor the agreement between the bands. Or if Riot Act was the album pushed forward.

    I faintly remember something about Krist and Eddie having a discussion on the phone att his time too... but that I am not as certain off. Don't remember where I read/saw this. But someone else on here should be able to corroborate. 

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    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,154
    Or could it have been Pearl Jam Greatest Hits and Nirvanas Best of the Box that changed release date due to the agreement. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,352
    Ties Riot Act for lowest PJ album debut I believe. Not counting Ten of course which I doubt even debuted on the charts, but eventually peaked at #2. 
    Lowest debut by a studio album, yes.  But it's a bit of an apples-to-oranges comparison.  Every other PJ studio album debuted on a Billboard 200 that only counted sales.  Now it counts streaming.  Gigaton debuts at No. 2 on Top Album Sales, which is the analogue to the old Billboard 200.

    The new formula for the Billboard 200 is very problematic.  It counts single consumption towards album consumption, which is never what the chart was supposed to measure.  1,250 paid streams of a single song (or 3,750 ad-supported streams of that same song) are counted as a sale.  It doesn't make any sense.  It doesn't necessarily reflect album consumption.  They also have the reverse problem on the Hot 100-- streams of album tracks count for what is supposed to be the "singles" chart.  When a very popular artist releases an album and people stream it upon release, all the tracks will chart on the Hot 100 in the release week and then drop like a rock the next week.  This has made the Hot 100 incoherent.

    We have another thread on here tracking chart performance for the songs and, now, the album, so check it out it you haven't seen it already.
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  • RE658041RE658041 Posts: 406
    edited April 2020
    Vinyl list Sweden.
    Post edited by RE658041 on
  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,352
    I wonder how many copies it takes to be the top-selling vinyl album in Sweden.  The U.S. has just under 330 million people and it sold 14,000 copies here.  Sweden has just over 10 million people so, if sales were proportional, that would mean it sold about 435 copies there.
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