To recline or not to recline...

wndowpayne

You have all probably heard the story..Personally, I think you suck if you recline..

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/18/us/plane-passenger-reclined-seat-cnn/index.html

rgambs

Yep, recliners suck.
The seats shouldn't recline at all with the tiny space they give you.

mickeyrat

there was a time where they didnt cram people in so tight. larger seats. more space between rows, etc.  AND you could go back farther in recline.

F Me In The Brain

I sit in the far front on full flight and occasionally in first if there is room to upgrade.  Enough room for small laptops there to comfortably work.
Everywhere else = no.

I don't recline but that is out of courtesy.  I don't think it is a crime to recline and that fucking guy should hit himself in the face vs the back of that woman's seat.  What a total ass.  He should be upset with the airlines and not the person.
I've for sure been frustrated.  I have for sure had my drink spilled.  You still don't do that.  

wndowpayne

Not sure how I would handle that situation..Ask nicely first to put seat up and try to make her feel like shit if she refused. I'm amazed she doesn't think what she did was inconsiderate.

hedonist

I thought this was a post requesting advice on whether or not to take a moment to rest

Remember those double-deckers with bars?

Flying used to be such a treat (as a kid in the late 60s/early 70s, that is).  Now, I'm just happy that I'll never step foot on a plane again.

Fifthelement

That incident was disgusting.  The very definition if a mantrum.  I also find it disturbing how the airlines have been able to fob off responsibility for the lack of space and reclining “etiquette” onto the consumer without consequence, as if there is absolutely nothing airlines or aircraft designer can do to alleviate these issues.  Sure, flying would be more expensive overall, but they’re already nickel & diming customers for every aspect of air travel now, while the consumer gets less bang for their buck.  

As an aside, I find these petty issues that develop into entitled rage more prevalent in the US, particularly with domestic travel.  What’s up with that?  I’m not saying that it doesn’t happen elsewhere, just that it seems more common there. 

F Me In The Brain

We are a society of jerks - as evidenced by how many people found this acceptable.  On average I flew almost once a week last year.  There is nothing to explain away a huge percentage of the incidents I observed.  Some people are just totally self absorbed assholes.
Imagine if that was your mother?  I would beat the shit out of that guy in a flash.

wndowpayne

My mother would never recline her seat..too considerate of others.The kid should have gotten the shit slapped out him, I agree, but just no need for that situation to start.

Jason P

It's on the airlines.  Give us space to recline or if there isn't any space, take the option away.  Airlines are soulless assholes, so why not just embrace it and take the recliners out.  Put in some milk cartons instead for us to sit on.

mickeyrat

one single row eliminated would help. two rows would be heaven....

deadendp

I do not recline. That's rude. 

I have been stuck in that seat that the dude was in. (Southwest and ending up in the last boarding group.) It was unpleasant. I am claustrophobic anyhow. A plane is a test for me. The ass end of a plane has a high pitch whistle and if I recall, it pitched a bit. There are so many things about that seat that shouldn't be anyhow, but he needn't be an asshole about it. I don't believe it was a transcontinental flight. He would have survived just fine without the fit. However, I don't believe that the lady was a prize either.  

PJ_Soul

If everyone reclines, doesn't that solve the problem, aside from the row against the back wall that can't recline?

bootlegger10

Interesting.  I typically recline if trying to sleep.  Maybe I will think twice now.  

F Me In The Brain

PJ_Soul said:

If everyone reclines, doesn't that solve the problem, aside from the row against the back wall that can't recline?

Some plane seats are less comfortable when reclining....and there are more rows than the last which do not recline on a standard plane 

rgambs

PJ_Soul said:

If everyone reclines, doesn't that solve the problem, aside from the row against the back wall that can't recline?

No, because reclining doesn't increase your leg space, it only subtracts from the person behind.
Also, it screws the tray table up for the person behind you, sometimes more, sometimes less.

HesCalledDyer

Whenever I board a plane, I just assume I’m going to be highly uncomfortable for the full duration of the flight. It sucks but it’s the nature of airplanes. As far as this incident goes, both of these people seem to think the world revolves around them and they’re both wrong.

cutz

Shouldn't recline, but BOTH are in the wrong here.

As many have pointed out in this thread about the many problems with flying, is reasons why i've decided to drive across the Country(USA) then Fly. I guess i can tolerate the A-Holes on the road more then the A-Holes  on a Plane. I know i'll be more comfortable though.

mca47

Airlines need to disable the ability to recline.  As a frequent flier, I can't tell you how many times i've had my laptop, drinks, food, whatever thrown in to my lap because the asshole in front of me hit the button and threw it back.

F Me In The Brain

mca47 said:

Airlines need to disable the ability to recline.  As a frequent flier, I can't tell you how many times i've had my laptop, drinks, food, whatever thrown in to my lap because the asshole in front of me hit the button and threw it back.

Agree -- shared a bunch in this thread and do think it is the fault of the airlines.  If they have the option we can't very well tell people not to do it and expect they will not.  However.............the dick move is 100% slamming the seat back.  You ease it back if you have to recline. 

(Still does not allow for someone to keep hitting the seat like a petulant child.)

I'm spoiled by airline status from being a frequent flyer and admit that I feel like I am a 3rd world flyer if I have to sit in the back of the plane or in a middle seat...but it is all about sharing space with hundreds of other people in a respectful fashion.  It'll be over soon enough, try not to dick out on someone.  (I do not recline in coach.)

IMO, this incident is the fault of the airlines #1, asshole guy #2, and then what could be an inconsiderate person who slammed back her seat #3.  If she lowered it slowly he has no right to be upset at her.  Complain to the airline.

Merkin Baller

I think the biggest story here is people's inability or refusal to put themselves in the other person's shoes.

Airline travel sucks, and when the people around you are inconsiderate it sucks even more.