Bestest PJ album and Crappyest Pj Album?

sadscaryguysadscaryguy Posts: 16
ok guys i wanna know which albums you like by PJ the most my personal favorites are everything from Ten to No Code seems that everything from Yield started to be somewhat a watered down version of itself I really liked the very last album Riot Act i really hated binaural but for some reason most people hate No Code i find No Code to be a classic
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  • best: Vitalogy. aggressive and dark, morbid, remained somewhat similar to Versus' style without totally abandoning it like with No Code, which is also a very good album, but still I find Vitalogy to be lyrically, emotionally, musically, variety-wise, experimentally to be their most satisfying.

    worst: Binaural. I liked this album. liked. didn't love. there were no songs on this album that I really, really liked a whole lot. there were some that I liked enough to listen to repeatedly, but just too tired-sounding and weary for me. like No Code grew on me after awhile, Binaural was really great to me for awhile and then it lost its touch.
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  • darthvedder88darthvedder88 Posts: 1,023
    This is very hard for me to say, but I will say that Vitalogy is the best!! All the other albums are masterpieces still though.
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  • best : Yield. its not very experimental or anything.. but in essence it's what Animals is to pink floyd. its near perfect.

    worst: ten. overplayed and a bit boring and depressing.

    love them all though...
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  • markymark550markymark550 Posts: 5,154
    Don't have a worst album...I love all of them. I will say that my favorite album is Ten.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Here's my issue with No Code - it has some of their best songs, but Who You Are is among my least favorite songs and the flow of the album is just not right to me - I can say the same exact things about Binaural, but replace Who You Are with Evacuation.

    So Ten, Vs. Vitalogy, Yield and Riot Act are my favorites - all solid songs, each album has great 'flow'.
  • there is no good or bad pj album, each one is unique for itself, the only difference between all records is that each one got his own speacial feeling.
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  • UnkeptUnkept Posts: 65
    Well, I couldn't say any PJ album sucks...in fact one reason I believe them to be the best band in the world is the different personalities of their albums, and how succesful they all are..Personally I prefer the post Vitology stuff. Had a nice life so the early stuff , while musaically admnirable, doesn't resonate with me. But one thing I have had a problem with is the song cycles on a few of the albums.Yeah, I have to say that I have often questioned the order of the songs on PJ's disc's....Don't get me wrong, I love 'em more than gold, but from Vitology, thru Riot, I've been a bit flummoxed by the song cycle's...except of course with 'Yield' . Yield is perfect, I love Yield...nuff said.

    However, Three fast ones for Binaural opening, into a somber midection...Vitology's entire sporatic second half...and Riot Act, well ...How you gonna have a piece like 'Arc' anywhere other than the first slot...They figured that one out and had it introduce the 'Gardens' DVD...I finally had to reorder the songs and burn my own copy of Riot Act, which I dubbed..'Re-Enacted' , Cut out the three odd ball songs, opened with Arc, then boom..Get Right, then the flagship song 'I Am Mine' and it goes on from there..with the ballads at the half way point, and final slot...and 'Save you' 2nd to last providing one more burst of rock and roll, and sounding fresher for not having to carry the traditional 2nd slot role of rocking the kids...all and all, I just wish they'd pay a bit more attention to the ebb and flow of a disc. Because it's the journey that counts.
  • hey, james here. new to the forum so hey all. i gotta say my fav album has got to be no code. doesnt seem to be the most popular but i duno wot it is about it. the flow of the songs... it just fits. love it. least favourite...hmm, thts a toughy. guess id have to chose binaural. not because its bad in any way, merely for the fact the other are simply just better
  • Unkept wrote:
    Well, I couldn't say any PJ album sucks...in fact one reason I believe them to be the best band in the world is the different personalities of their albums, and how succesful they all are..Personally I prefer the post Vitology stuff. Had a nice life so the early stuff , while musaically admnirable, doesn't resonate with me. But one thing I have had a problem with is the song cycles on a few of the albums.Yeah, I have to say that I have often questioned the order of the songs on PJ's disc's....Don't get me wrong, I love 'em more than gold, but from Vitology, thru Riot, I've been a bit flummoxed by the song cycle's...except of course with 'Yield' . Yield is perfect, I love Yield...nuff said.

    However, Three fast ones for Binaural opening, into a somber midection...Vitology's entire sporatic second half...and Riot Act, well ...How you gonna have a piece like 'Arc' anywhere other than the first slot...They figured that one out and had it introduce the 'Gardens' DVD...I finally had to reorder the songs and burn my own copy of Riot Act, which I dubbed..'Re-Enacted' , Cut out the three odd ball songs, opened with Arc, then boom..Get Right, then the flagship song 'I Am Mine' and it goes on from there..with the ballads at the half way point, and final slot...and 'Save you' 2nd to last providing one more burst of rock and roll, and sounding fresher for not having to carry the traditional 2nd slot role of rocking the kids...all and all, I just wish they'd pay a bit more attention to the ebb and flow of a disc. Because it's the journey that counts.
    first of all, great post. most people that rant just stick random words in there and write it all in one slurred together enourmous column.

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    but anyway...

    i agree and disagree with you there..

    Yield (as i said earlier) is perfect of course...

    The only problems i have with order really would be that, of course, Binaural could be and WAS a LOT fucking better ordered. i lost the link to the original tracklist but i'm sure someone has it.

    Arc/All Or None is a great closer, but you're right it really should've been first... first right into Love Boat Captain i'd say.

    Kenny i happen to love Who You Are and think its one of their best songs. :)
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  • Tough Question!!!

    Favorite: Ten (could listen to it a million times (and probably have) and still love it

    Least Favorite: Binaural (like it, but don't love it....)
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  • Fav. album .... :D Vs. :D the album feels like a whole, with nothing missing, stories unfolding that all belong together

    I like all their other albums too.
  • PHATJPHATJ Posts: 348
    No Code
    VS.
    Vitalogy
    Yield
    Ten
    Riot Act
    Binaural

    This changes all the time. The only consistent for me is Binaural at the bottom.
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  • HJGhoopsHJGhoops Posts: 10
    I say ten is the best, every song on ten is great. I'm not sure about the worst though.
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  • LedZepFanLedZepFan Posts: 1,009
    Best

    Ten-One amazing song after another, incredible musicianship and the vocals are mind blowing. It is a little dark, for some reason Ten seems like nighttime music to me and VS as day music lol.

    Worst

    Now, saying any of the PJ qlbums is bad is crazy talk to me, but No Code is probably my least favorite. It has some awesome songs like Present Tense, Habit, and Hail Hail but its weighed down by the pointless Im Open and songs that dont really go anywhere like Sometimes, WHo You Are, and In My Tree.
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  • LedZepFan wrote:
    Best

    Ten-One amazing song after another, incredible musicianship and the vocals are mind blowing. It is a little dark, for some reason Ten seems like nighttime music to me and VS as day music lol.

    Worst

    Now, saying any of the PJ qlbums is bad is crazy talk to me, but No Code is probably my least favorite. It has some awesome songs like Present Tense, Habit, and Hail Hail but its weighed down by the pointless Im Open and songs that dont really go anywhere like Sometimes, Who You Are, and In My Tree.
    saying those songs dont' go anywhere makes less sense than saying Ten is better than No Code...

    but anyway... the experimentation they put out and evolved to goes completely unappreciated with a lot of people (most people i'd say...)

    its not that I'm Open, Who You Are, and Sometimes don't go anywhere... its that the sound different and leave no opening for a solo... Who You Are at least is among their best work. I'd take just those 4 songs you listed as not going anywhere over the entire Ten album most days.

    In My Tree is very structured and simple though, that one is a bit out of the blue.
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  • Born2JamBorn2Jam Posts: 255
    Pearl Jam had a crappy album?

    Hmmm. Wasn't aware.

    Today my fave is Vitalogy.

    Tomorrow.......who knows.
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  • SAVEDMESAVEDME Posts: 3
    All in all, i think this is a stupid and pointless thread. By what standards are we judging the albums? By the public's? The public sucks. I have different feelings about each album. I dont feel that they can be compared because each album stands on its own.
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  • PHATJPHATJ Posts: 348
    saying those songs dont' go anywhere makes less sense than saying Ten is better than No Code...

    but anyway... the experimentation they put out and evolved to goes completely unappreciated with a lot of people (most people i'd say...)

    its not that I'm Open, Who You Are, and Sometimes don't go anywhere... its that the sound different and leave no opening for a solo... Who You Are at least is among their best work. I'd take just those 4 songs you listed as not going anywhere over the entire Ten album most days.

    In My Tree is very structured and simple though, that one is a bit out of the blue.


    I agree on almost all fronts.

    In My Tree is a brillient song, and that entire album is pretty damn amazing.

    In My Tree
    Red Mosquito
    Present Tense
    Smile
    Who You Are
    Hail, Hail
    Lukin
    Off He Goes

    it doesn't get much better then that group of songs. period.
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  • whoYOUarewhoYOUare Posts: 274
    best : Yield. its not very experimental or anything.. but in essence it's what Animals is to pink floyd. its near perfect.
    very interesting analogy...

    my favorite: No Code - it has always been my favorite since i first heard it. i have a lengthy story that goes along with my purchase of it but i will save you all the trouble of reading it yet again. But anyways, this record just does it for me, all the songs speak to me, and it is a turning point in not only their music, but in my life as well. a lot of the values i currently live by are evident in this record. its very spiritual and forces you to look at yourself from the outside. i'm not sure i articulated my argument too well, but thas how i feel about it.

    my least favorite: Riot Act - still new and not yet experienced in the proper way. Its got some great tunes (LBC, Cant Keep, You Are, All or None) but it lacks the total package that i have come to enjoy out of all thier work. With that being said, i do not feel this is a poor effort, quite the contrary, it is still a very good record, just not hte quality of Ten-Binaural.

    most under-rated: Not a topic i know, but i had to... Binaural - i see a lot of Binaural bashing on this board, and many people feel it was a waste. i on the other hand think it is brilliant. sometimes i enjoy it more than No Code, but overall i think No Code is a more solid record. The thing about Binaural is that you have to listen to it a lot to really get the most out of it. Many people talk about listening to it with headphones... thas how you gotta do it to really fall in love with it. but there is so much depth to the music that you can get lost looking at just hte surface. some of the guitar work is the best PJ has done, and the grooves really speak for themselves. as far as B-sides go (im talking about the LP B-side) this might have the best. i mean how can you compare to Insignificance, Of the Girl, Grienvence, Rival, Slight of Hand, Soon Forget adn Parting Ways...
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  • ^^

    yield/binaural would be my favorites.

    can't believe people don't like it.

    well put
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  • paakspaaks Posts: 12
    ok first off No Code is a freakin' amazing album, smile, present tense, red mosquito are among pj's best songs

    i think (and a lot of people disagree) that VS is pj's best album, and here's my case, 10 is a great album but it is way too overproduced, it sounds like the record execs were wanting it to be an album of 12 singles(kinda like nirvana-nevermind) cuz really what songs on 10 couldn't have been a single and that the band was really trying to make a an album that would forever be a classic(which it is obviously) but vs sounds like they had made a little money and they weren't really concerned what the record company thought, they just went into the studio and let it all hang out,while 10 has songs that are better than anything on vs (black,jeremy,alive,oceans,once etc) vs as a whole sounds a lot looser, like they had a lot of fun making it, it also touches on some darker subjects, for example, blood, plus it has my two favorite pj songs on it(RVM, Indifference)but then again theres a strong case to be made for every pj album, ive never been disappointed by one of them,the worst would have to be binaural the track selection was horrendous, while it does have great songs (insignificance,of the girl, rival, to name a few) i dont understand how sleight of hand could make it on the album but not down or fatal(i could be wrong but i believe those were both b-sides for binaural) this is such a tricky question though because really all there albums are great and they all have great songs on them
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  • DavanitaDavanita Posts: 854
    SAVEDME wrote:
    All in all, i think this is a stupid and pointless thread. By what standards are we judging the albums? By the public's? The public sucks. I have different feelings about each album. I dont feel that they can be compared because each album stands on its own.


    my thoughts exactly.
    btw.. what's up with all this hate for binaural..?! i fuckin love it. songs like of the girl, grievance and sleight of hand are some of their best to my opninion.
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  • Davanita wrote:
    my thoughts exactly.
    btw.. what's up with all this hate for binaural..?! i fuckin love it. songs like of the girl, grievance and sleight of hand are some of their best to my opninion.
    he should've used favorite in the title instead of best.

    i agree by the way
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  • DavanitaDavanita Posts: 854
    he should've used favorite in the title instead of best.


    good point. you can't measure something like "the best" in music cos it isn't a fact.
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  • No Code has no flow, Yield has perfect flow, and Ten has even flow.

    Ten is my favorite album
    VS is my least favorite album, just cause it seems a bit forced, but I love it all.
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  • I really can't believe all the binaural bashing. This album is really really good, and the one that helped me re-discover the band after a few years away. From the rockers to the ballads, this is really an underrated album. Matter of fact, I just put it on right now.... Breakerfall just kicks ass!

    I think everyone should just put this on and listen to it a couple times straight through... Find the lyrics on the net if you want, they really had a lot to say on this album as well......

    Can't place a fav or least fav... each album is unique, special and fitting for the time they came out... No Code does hold a special place in my heart though... hence the username.
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