Fan-to-Fan Ticket Exchange for Dummies

epbadger

lmckenney24 said:

PJNB said:

lmckenney24 said:

JB274988 said:

Just closed MD schools for the next 2 weeks.

I saw Ohio's were closed for 3 weeks. Nothing canceled here yet. Spring break in 3 weeks, so guessing the next 2 weeks will get canned.

Ontario just closed theirs for 3 weeks. All of Canada will follow I bet. 

I'd count on it. Same here in the states. My guess all will close, or do online learning (my son's middle school is set up for that) for 3 weeks. 

Such a cluster fuck. people count on schools as day care and free lunch. How do these people take care of their kids when they need to work! just more of the ripple effect...gonna get alot worse before it gets better. this really is crazy 

Dcgal

 Pandemics are buzzkills. 

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SHZA

craigraether said:

SHZA said:

korn-1 said:

Just got an email saying the buyer of one of my sets of sold F2F tickets has requested a refund. Tickets are back in my account, and I was recharged, I guess I knew that would be the case cause I read the fine print before listing but what a mess... Now have 7 tickets for LA1, 3 for LA2, 3 for SD, and 2 for AZ in my account. 4 more PJ sold that I'm hoping dont get refunded.  Also have Rolling Stones, Rage Against the Machine, MB20/Wallflowers, and Hamilton the musical in there. And thats just ticketmaster... have Foo Fighters on stubhub and the Ohana bands I just ordered... I'm sitting on a mountain of tickets and have no idea if or when any of these shows are gonna happen. So depressing.

Interesting. Guess that disproves our theory that TM was buying back F2F tickets ... 

Maybe not.. did the buyer of Korn's tickets put them for sale or request refund.. Two different things i think... I see posts that people say they list tickets and they get sold... To whom? there is no listing pages that are active.. I had one page up for OAK in my browser a few days back and i hit the best seats button and some came up. I tried to buy and got an error.

I was referring to F2F buyers that request refunds. There was some discussion that TM was providing refunds for those tickets and putting them back in the standard pool. I agree that if F2F sales are still happening, TM might be the buyer of those although that seems a little strange. Why would TM want to put out the cash for that and take a chance that they might not sell when it already has the original sale in the bank?

PJNB

SHZA said:

craigraether said:

SHZA said:

korn-1 said:

Just got an email saying the buyer of one of my sets of sold F2F tickets has requested a refund. Tickets are back in my account, and I was recharged, I guess I knew that would be the case cause I read the fine print before listing but what a mess... Now have 7 tickets for LA1, 3 for LA2, 3 for SD, and 2 for AZ in my account. 4 more PJ sold that I'm hoping dont get refunded.  Also have Rolling Stones, Rage Against the Machine, MB20/Wallflowers, and Hamilton the musical in there. And thats just ticketmaster... have Foo Fighters on stubhub and the Ohana bands I just ordered... I'm sitting on a mountain of tickets and have no idea if or when any of these shows are gonna happen. So depressing.

Interesting. Guess that disproves our theory that TM was buying back F2F tickets ... 

Maybe not.. did the buyer of Korn's tickets put them for sale or request refund.. Two different things i think... I see posts that people say they list tickets and they get sold... To whom? there is no listing pages that are active.. I had one page up for OAK in my browser a few days back and i hit the best seats button and some came up. I tried to buy and got an error.

I was referring to F2F buyers that request refunds. There was some discussion that TM was providing refunds for those tickets and putting them back in the standard pool. I agree that if F2F sales are still happening, TM might be the buyer of those although that seems a little strange. Why would TM want to put out the cash for that and take a chance that they might not sell when it already has the original sale in the bank?

I am not sure what there plan is but I bet they absolutely fucking hate this system with all of the upgrading and selling going on with no fees. It would not surprise me if they scooped them up just to slow that down. These shows are months away and some of these tickets will have 10 owners by the time the show hits if this is left open I bet. I am probably wrong on that but I have no doubt this is not what they had intended when they set this up. 

lmckenney24

epbadger said:

lmckenney24 said:

PJNB said:

lmckenney24 said:

JB274988 said:

Just closed MD schools for the next 2 weeks.

I saw Ohio's were closed for 3 weeks. Nothing canceled here yet. Spring break in 3 weeks, so guessing the next 2 weeks will get canned.

Ontario just closed theirs for 3 weeks. All of Canada will follow I bet. 

I'd count on it. Same here in the states. My guess all will close, or do online learning (my son's middle school is set up for that) for 3 weeks. 

Such a cluster fuck. people count on schools as day care and free lunch. How do these people take care of their kids when they need to work! just more of the ripple effect...gonna get alot worse before it gets better. this really is crazy 

Yeah, its gonna be nuts. Thankfully, I work from home 95% of the time so it wont impact me. But your right, it's going to really effect those who don't have that luxury. 

epbadger

I have skimmed through this thread today. Was a hard day at work. Trying to calm down my crew from this Corona shit. one asshole actually showed up sick as fuck! I mean literally sweating from a fever...really!!

so sorry if this has been covered

I dont think the fan to fan is active....is it? I put up a pair for AZ which has not been sold and when I look is not showing tix available but they have not been sold

Houryo

craigraether said:

Maybe not.. did the buyer of Korn's tickets put them for sale or request refund.. Two different things i think... I see posts that people say they list tickets and they get sold... To whom? there is no listing pages that are active.. I had one page up for OAK in my browser a few days back and i hit the best seats button and some came up. I tried to buy and got an error.

So Craig is right that if you had browsers open prior to the suspension and kept them open, then you still have access to the F2F tickets that people are still listing.  Right now SD has a few bench seats and the 2 LA shows have 6-7 200 level seats each.  I did see some floor level  and 100 level seats pop up in one of the LA shows, but they went quickly so some are still F5ing and purchasing.  I made the mistake of refreshing one of the pages and cannot not get back to the available seats.  Same issue when tickets are purchased now - you can't get back to available seats after purchase.  My guess is if you try and buy and someone beats you to them, then you can't go back to listings which is what may have happened in your case.

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craigraether

All they did was put a redirect on the event page... back in the day i worked at record store that had a ticket outlet. if you put an event code that was valid but not active it would redirect back to the enter screen... So many times i got great seats for a second added show by guessing the event code and re-entering it until it came up.. this was days before the internet ..

craigraether

epbadger said:

I have skimmed through this thread today. Was a hard day at work. Trying to calm down my crew from this Corona shit. one asshole actually showed up sick as fuck! I mean literally sweating from a fever...really!!

so sorry if this has been covered

I dont think the fan to fan is active....is it? I put up a pair for AZ which has not been sold and when I look is not showing tix available but they have not been sold

What are the seats you are selling for AZ?

SHZA

Houryo said:

craigraether said:

Maybe not.. did the buyer of Korn's tickets put them for sale or request refund.. Two different things i think... I see posts that people say they list tickets and they get sold... To whom? there is no listing pages that are active.. I had one page up for OAK in my browser a few days back and i hit the best seats button and some came up. I tried to buy and got an error.

So Craig is right that if you had browsers open prior to the suspension and kept them open, then you still have access to the F2F tickets that people are still listing.  Right now SD has a few bench seats and the 2 LA shows have 6-7 200 level seats each.  I did see some floor level  and 100 level seats pop up in one of the LA shows, but they went quickly so some are still F5ing and purchasing.  I made the mistake of refreshing one of the pages and cannot not get back to the available seats.  Same issue when tickets are purchased now - you can't get back to available seats after purchase.  My guess is if you try and buy and someone beats you to them, then you can't go back to listings which is what may have happened in your case.

Wow that's crazy. Wish I'd kept my browsers open lol

SHZA

PJNB said:

SHZA said:

craigraether said:

SHZA said:

korn-1 said:

Just got an email saying the buyer of one of my sets of sold F2F tickets has requested a refund. Tickets are back in my account, and I was recharged, I guess I knew that would be the case cause I read the fine print before listing but what a mess... Now have 7 tickets for LA1, 3 for LA2, 3 for SD, and 2 for AZ in my account. 4 more PJ sold that I'm hoping dont get refunded.  Also have Rolling Stones, Rage Against the Machine, MB20/Wallflowers, and Hamilton the musical in there. And thats just ticketmaster... have Foo Fighters on stubhub and the Ohana bands I just ordered... I'm sitting on a mountain of tickets and have no idea if or when any of these shows are gonna happen. So depressing.

Interesting. Guess that disproves our theory that TM was buying back F2F tickets ... 

Maybe not.. did the buyer of Korn's tickets put them for sale or request refund.. Two different things i think... I see posts that people say they list tickets and they get sold... To whom? there is no listing pages that are active.. I had one page up for OAK in my browser a few days back and i hit the best seats button and some came up. I tried to buy and got an error.

I was referring to F2F buyers that request refunds. There was some discussion that TM was providing refunds for those tickets and putting them back in the standard pool. I agree that if F2F sales are still happening, TM might be the buyer of those although that seems a little strange. Why would TM want to put out the cash for that and take a chance that they might not sell when it already has the original sale in the bank?

I am not sure what there plan is but I bet they absolutely fucking hate this system with all of the upgrading and selling going on with no fees. It would not surprise me if they scooped them up just to slow that down. These shows are months away and some of these tickets will have 10 owners by the time the show hits if this is left open I bet. I am probably wrong on that but I have no doubt this is not what they had intended when they set this up. 

I'd have to think this was foreseeable. No added fees and fixed prices = no risk, of course people are going to take advantage of it. I'm sure they weighed that against what they're making on the standard sales for the tour and concluded it was worth it. 

pbultimate

What about the tickets that exchanged hands multiple times?

ddeschler

So murky.  If TM wasn't a brainless, heartless monolith, they would just refund the current holder, then sell the tickets again when the new date is announced.  Except for the worst seats in QC and OKC, these will all sell, and there's no point in inconveniencing the original ticket holder with credit card charge backs.

Kovsar86

SHZA said:

Houryo said:

craigraether said:

Maybe not.. did the buyer of Korn's tickets put them for sale or request refund.. Two different things i think... I see posts that people say they list tickets and they get sold... To whom? there is no listing pages that are active.. I had one page up for OAK in my browser a few days back and i hit the best seats button and some came up. I tried to buy and got an error.

So Craig is right that if you had browsers open prior to the suspension and kept them open, then you still have access to the F2F tickets that people are still listing.  Right now SD has a few bench seats and the 2 LA shows have 6-7 200 level seats each.  I did see some floor level  and 100 level seats pop up in one of the LA shows, but they went quickly so some are still F5ing and purchasing.  I made the mistake of refreshing one of the pages and cannot not get back to the available seats.  Same issue when tickets are purchased now - you can't get back to available seats after purchase.  My guess is if you try and buy and someone beats you to them, then you can't go back to listings which is what may have happened in your case.

Wow that's crazy. Wish I'd kept my browsers open lol

I left mine open but it doesn't show me anything

indifferentman

korn-1 said:

Just got an email saying the buyer of one of my sets of sold F2F tickets has requested a refund. Tickets are back in my account, and I was recharged, I guess I knew that would be the case cause I read the fine print before listing but what a mess... Now have 7 tickets for LA1, 3 for LA2, 3 for SD, and 2 for AZ in my account. 4 more PJ sold that I'm hoping dont get refunded.  Also have Rolling Stones, Rage Against the Machine, MB20/Wallflowers, and Hamilton the musical in there. And thats just ticketmaster... have Foo Fighters on stubhub and the Ohana bands I just ordered... I'm sitting on a mountain of tickets and have no idea if or when any of these shows are gonna happen. So depressing.

Thanks for posting this. 

Based upon this info, I'm out.  I'm getting a refund for my San Diego ticket because I'm expecting the be laid off any day now and I have no idea what my situation will be if/when it get's rescheduled.  

It would be nice to list these up to someone that's still actively able to buy on F2F, but not if they  change their mind months later.  Losing that money later on (when I may REALLY need it) isn't worth it.

JB274988

indifferentman said:

korn-1 said:

Just got an email saying the buyer of one of my sets of sold F2F tickets has requested a refund. Tickets are back in my account, and I was recharged, I guess I knew that would be the case cause I read the fine print before listing but what a mess... Now have 7 tickets for LA1, 3 for LA2, 3 for SD, and 2 for AZ in my account. 4 more PJ sold that I'm hoping dont get refunded.  Also have Rolling Stones, Rage Against the Machine, MB20/Wallflowers, and Hamilton the musical in there. And thats just ticketmaster... have Foo Fighters on stubhub and the Ohana bands I just ordered... I'm sitting on a mountain of tickets and have no idea if or when any of these shows are gonna happen. So depressing.

Thanks for posting this. 

Based upon this info, I'm out.  I'm getting a refund for my San Diego ticket because I'm expecting the be laid off any day now and I have no idea what my situation will be if/when it get's rescheduled.  

It would be nice to list these up to someone that's still actively able to buy on F2F, but not if they  change their mind months later.  Losing that money later on (when I may REALLY need it) isn't worth it.

Really sorry to hear that

craigraether

Anyone know if its the Original ticket buyer that F2F has to be refunded to, What i mean - if F2F changed hands multiple times, does it go back to who i bought it from, or back the first buyer of the "standard" ticket

tschav

All I know is getting a refund on 10c tickets so far has been emails from Ticketstoday, Ten Club and Ticketmaster saying go to Ticketmaster.com, which is chugging along, cut off Live Chat and won't allow me to request a refund or put them up on F2F.

All things considered though have just been postponed/cancelled (pretty much every pro and college sport, as well as Broadway shows), I doubt they'll be able to handle everything for a while now.

LaFleur

Kovsar86 said:

SHZA said:

Houryo said:

craigraether said:

Maybe not.. did the buyer of Korn's tickets put them for sale or request refund.. Two different things i think... I see posts that people say they list tickets and they get sold... To whom? there is no listing pages that are active.. I had one page up for OAK in my browser a few days back and i hit the best seats button and some came up. I tried to buy and got an error.

So Craig is right that if you had browsers open prior to the suspension and kept them open, then you still have access to the F2F tickets that people are still listing.  Right now SD has a few bench seats and the 2 LA shows have 6-7 200 level seats each.  I did see some floor level  and 100 level seats pop up in one of the LA shows, but they went quickly so some are still F5ing and purchasing.  I made the mistake of refreshing one of the pages and cannot not get back to the available seats.  Same issue when tickets are purchased now - you can't get back to available seats after purchase.  My guess is if you try and buy and someone beats you to them, then you can't go back to listings which is what may have happened in your case.

Wow that's crazy. Wish I'd kept my browsers open lol

I left mine open but it doesn't show me anything

Same.