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2 questions about I got shit

blackedblacked Posts: 18
edited July 2005 in Words and Music...Communication
1st) is it really called I got shit? or i got id? and if it's called I got id (as my rearview mirror cd says) why? what does "I got ID" mean?

2nd) what does he mean with 'i walked the line...' in that verse?

please somebody enlighten a not native english speaker :P

thanks!!
25.11.05 Buenos Aires, Argentina
26.11.05 Buenos Aires, Argentina

"We were talking in the back... this has to be, as far as your voices and your energy, of all the years, i think this is the greatest audience we've ever played for... es verdad" (Eddie - November 25th BsAs ARGENTINA)
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  • DarkStarDarkStar Posts: 734
    blacked wrote:
    1st) is it really called I got shit? or i got id? and if it's called I got id (as my rearview mirror cd says) why? what does "I got ID" mean?

    2nd) what does he mean with 'i walked the line...' in that verse?

    please somebody enlighten a not native english speaker :P

    thanks!!

    1. The song essentially has two titles: I Got Shit and I Got Id. The Id is a psychological construct that Sigmund Freud theorized about.
    THE ID (“It”): functions in the irrational and emotional part of the mind. At birth a baby’s mind is all Id - want want want. The Id is the primitive mind. It contains all the basic needs and feelings. It is the source for libido (psychic energy). And it has only one rule --> the “pleasure principle”: “I want it and I want it all now”. In transactional analysis, Id equates to "Child".

    Id too strong = bound up in self-gratification and uncaring to others (source)

    2. The lyric, "I walked the line...," is a reference to the protagonist walking the thin line between emotional stability and emotional instability. I wrote my thoughts on the song in another thread...I'll post it here too: to me I Got Id is an introspective song about a person who is struggling to remain psychologically stable...what's amazing and powerful about the song is that it captures the tragedy of a person who knows he is struggling, but cannot do anything about it. this song is so deep it's not even funny. i love how it begins and ends with the same line...which imparts a sense of hopelessness and accurately portrays the cyclical nature of his condition...he can describe his psychopathologies, but he is unable to affect a change in himself to overcome his struggle and strengthen his fragile psyche.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=1893979&postcount=2

    ds
    And no one sings me lullabyes
    And no one makes me close my eyes
    So I throw the windows wide
    And call to you across the sky....
  • satans_bedsatans_bed Posts: 430
    Actually i was about to ask that, i got confused with the title I Got Shit / I Got ID. BTW the song is currently playing in my player. Thanks so much for clearing my thoughts. :)
    "i forgot the words...."
  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    the reason they changed the title to i got id was becuase sony didn't like the word "shit" on a single.

    thats why it appears as "id" on the single and on RVM, but it appears as "shit" on live set lists.

    that stuff you said is the reason they chose to replace "shit" with "id" though :)
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  • blackedblacked Posts: 18
    DarkStar wrote:
    1. The song essentially has two titles: I Got Shit and I Got Id. The Id is a psychological construct that Sigmund Freud theorized about.
    THE ID (“It”): functions in the irrational and emotional part of the mind. At birth a baby’s mind is all Id - want want want. The Id is the primitive mind. It contains all the basic needs and feelings. It is the source for libido (psychic energy). And it has only one rule --> the “pleasure principle”: “I want it and I want it all now”. In transactional analysis, Id equates to "Child".

    Id too strong = bound up in self-gratification and uncaring to others (source)

    2. The lyric, "I walked the line...," is a reference to the protagonist walking the thin line between emotional stability and emotional instability. I wrote my thoughts on the song in another thread...I'll post it here too: to me I Got Id is an introspective song about a person who is struggling to remain psychologically stable...what's amazing and powerful about the song is that it captures the tragedy of a person who knows he is struggling, but cannot do anything about it. this song is so deep it's not even funny. i love how it begins and ends with the same line...which imparts a sense of hopelessness and accurately portrays the cyclical nature of his condition...he can describe his psychopathologies, but he is unable to affect a change in himself to overcome his struggle and strengthen his fragile psyche.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=1893979&postcount=2

    ds

    thanks DarkStar! that was greatly put, and your words just made me relate even more to the song, so thank you.
    the reason they changed the title to i got id was becuase sony didn't like the word "shit" on a single.

    thats why it appears as "id" on the single and on RVM, but it appears as "shit" on live set lists.

    thanks! really clarifying
    25.11.05 Buenos Aires, Argentina
    26.11.05 Buenos Aires, Argentina

    "We were talking in the back... this has to be, as far as your voices and your energy, of all the years, i think this is the greatest audience we've ever played for... es verdad" (Eddie - November 25th BsAs ARGENTINA)
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