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According to some though, India probably wouldn't even notice all of this if the media didn't push that Covid fear pornmickeyrat said:India's crematoriums overwhelmed as virus 'swallows people'By SHEIKH SAALIQ and AIJAZ HUSSAINTodayNEW DELHI (AP) — India’s crematoriums and burial grounds are being overwhelmed by the devastating new surge of infections tearing through the populous country with terrifying speed, depleting the supply of life-saving oxygen to critical levels and leaving patients to die while waiting in line to see doctors.
For the fourth straight day, India on Sunday set a global daily record for new infections, spurred by an insidious, new variant that emerged here, undermining the government’s premature claims of victory over the pandemic.
The 349,691 confirmed cases over the past day brought India’s total to more than 16.9 million, behind only the United States. The Health Ministry reported another 2,767 deaths in the past 24 hours, pushing India’s COVID-19 fatalities to 192,311.
Experts say that toll could be a huge undercount, as suspected cases are not included, and many deaths from the infection are being attributed to underlying conditions.
The crisis unfolding in India is most visceral in its graveyards and crematoriums, and in heartbreaking images of gasping patients dying on their way to hospitals due to lack of oxygen.
Burial grounds in the Indian capital New Delhi are running out of space and bright, glowing funeral pyres light up the night sky in other badly hit cities.
In central Bhopal city, some crematoriums have increased their capacity from dozens of pyres to more than 50. Yet officials say there are still hours-long waits.
At the city’s Bhadbhada Vishram Ghat crematorium, workers said they cremated more than 110 people on Saturday, even as government figures in the entire city of 1.8 million put the total number of virus deaths at just 10.
“The virus is swallowing our city’s people like a monster,” said Mamtesh Sharma, an official at the site.
The unprecedented rush of bodies has forced the crematorium to skip individual ceremonies and exhaustive rituals that Hindus believe release the soul from the cycle of rebirth.
“We are just burning bodies as they arrive,” said Sharma. “It is as if we are in the middle of a war.”
The head gravedigger at New Delhi’s largest Muslim cemetery, where 1,000 people have been buried during the pandemic, said more bodies are arriving now than last year. “I fear we will run out of space very soon,” said Mohammad Shameem.
The situation is equally grim at unbearably full hospitals, where desperate people are dying in line, sometimes on the roads outside, waiting to see doctors.
Health officials are scrambling to expand critical care units and stock up on dwindling supplies of oxygen. Hospitals and patients alike are struggling to procure scarce medical equipment that is being sold at an exponential markup.
The crisis is in direct contrast with government claims that “nobody in the country was left without oxygen,” in a statement made Saturday by India’s Solicitor General Tushar Mehta before Delhi High Court.
The breakdown is a stark failure for a country whose prime minister only in January had declared victory over COVID-19, and which boasted of being the “world’s pharmacy,” a global producer of vaccines and a model for other developing nations.
Caught off-guard by the latest deadly spike, the federal government has asked industrialists to increase the production of oxygen and other life-saving drugs in short supply. But health experts say India had an entire year to prepare for the inevitable — and it didn’t.
Dr. Krutika Kuppalli, assistant professor of medicine in the division of infectious diseases at the Medical University of South Carolina, said the Indian government has been "very reactive to this situation rather than being proactive.”
She said the government should have used the last year, when the virus was more under control, to develop plans to address a surge and “stockpiled medications and developed public-private partnerships to help with manufacturing essential resources in the event of a situation like this.”
“Most importantly, they should have looked at what was going on in other parts of the world and understood that it was a matter of time before they would be in a similar situation,’’ Kuppalli said.
Kuppalli called the government’s premature declarations of victory over the pandemic a “false narrative,” which encouraged people to relax health measures when they should have continued strict adherence to physical distancing, wearing masks and avoiding large crowds.
Prime Minister Narendra Modi is facing mounting criticism for allowing Hindu festivals and attending mammoth election rallies that experts suspect accelerated the spread of infections.
In one such election rally two weeks ago, Modi barely managed to hide his delight when he declared to his supporters in West Bengal state: “I have never seen such huge crowds.” At that time, the virus had already started to rear its head again and experts were warning a deadly surge was inevitable.
With the death toll mounting, Modi’s Hindu nationalist government is trying to quell critical voices.
On Saturday, Twitter complied with the government’s request and prevented people in India from viewing more than 50 tweets that appeared to criticize the administration’s handling of the pandemic. The targeted posts include tweets from opposition ministers critical of Modi, journalists and ordinary Indians.
A Twitter spokesperson said it had powers to “withhold access to the content in India only” if the company determined the content to be “illegal in a particular jurisdiction.” The company said it had responded to an order by the government and notified people whose tweets were withheld.
India’s Information Technology Ministry did not respond to a request for comment.
Even with the targeted blocks, horrific scenes of overwhelmed hospitals and cremation grounds spread on Twitter and drew appeals of help.
White House National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan on Sunday said the United States is “deeply concerned” by the severe COVID-19 outbreak in India. “We are working around the clock to deploy more supplies and support to our friends and partners in India as they bravely battle this pandemic,” Sullivan tweeted.
Help and support also appeared to arrive from archrival Pakistan, with politicians, journalists and citizens in the neighboring country expressing support for people in India. Pakistan's Foreign Affairs Ministry said it offered to provide relief support including ventilators, oxygen supply kits, digital X-ray machines, PPE and related items.
“Humanitarian issues require responses beyond political consideration,” Foreign Minister Shah Mehmood Qureshi said.
The Indian government did not immediately respond to Qureshi’s statement.
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Hussain reported from Srinagar, India.
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Inflated "deaths." All them folks are actually living on a farm upstate.Merkin Baller said:Huh0 -
Some may have even "bought" the farmHobbes said:
Inflated "deaths." All them folks are actually living on a farm upstate.Merkin Baller said:Huh
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https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/diseases/coronavirus-disease-covid-19/epidemiological-economic-research-data/mathematical-modelling.html
That last screenshot shows vaccine hesitancy rates among us Canadians by age group as well as how many more imported cases we'll have when border reopens after restrictions (which we recently strengthened) are lifted.
Our government models use vaccine efficacy for one shot 60% prevent infection 80% prevent hospitalization.I was swimming in the Great Barrier Reef
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That doesn’t make sense. More people died of the flu in 1918 than covid in 2020 and the population was a lot smaller then.Merkin Baller said:Huh0 -
That has nothing to do with above normal though. All that chart shows is a percentage compared to the previous year and nothing else. Not sure the accuracy on it though since I would imagine that 1918 did not do a very good job of proper record keeping.mace1229 said:
That doesn’t make sense. More people died of the flu in 1918 than covid in 2020 and the population was a lot smaller then.Merkin Baller said:Huh
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Finally you get my issues..so,72 hours test before flight is useless!!..benjs said:
From the article you shared: "According to rules, all passengers who want to come to Hong Kong need to have a Covid-negative RT-PCR result with them from a test done 72 hours prior to the journey."23scidoo said:
It is so hard to get it??..this is all over the net..boarded with a negative test and when they arrived in Hong Kong they were tested positive..benjs said:
No, they're not the scientists I talk about. Once again, Sputnik Vaccine, the author of those tweets, is a Russian pharmaceutical company with a clear conflict of interest. If this is truly credible, again, why aren't other media networks reporting this?23scidoo said:
''Russian Twitter account''..those are the scientist you talks about..benjs said:
So, to confirm, you don’t have a single scientific reference. Just a single Russian Twitter account. Got it.23scidoo said:
Also not my fault you posted an article with your own assumptions added in, with no evidence contained.
ask you again..can you fly if you are not healthy??..can??
And I'll answer you again (with the same answer again), obviously you can fly if you're not healthy, or variants sourced in one part of the world wouldn't keep showing up in other parts of the world. This isn't rocket science, it's just basic logic.
how can you fly with positive test, not be healthy??..
well, now those pharmaceutical companies are not science??..or cause are Russians??..
What don't you understand about that leaving room for people to develop the disease before travelling? 72 hours of opportunity.
On the pharmaceutical companies, also not hard to understand. Scientific bodies exist to confirm or reject findings from companies, because of an obvious conflict of interest. If I wanted to know if Pfizer vaccines were safe, I wouldn't take Pfizer's word for it - I'd take the scientific community's. It's your responsibility if you're trying to make people believe something to share credible evidence. You haven't shared any of that.
i'm not trying anything here..what i see is, one big pharma attack to others, that's scary..Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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I would not say they are useless. Perfect? Not even close but at least it is better than no testing.23scidoo said:
Finally you get my issues..so,72 hours test before flight is useless!!..benjs said:
From the article you shared: "According to rules, all passengers who want to come to Hong Kong need to have a Covid-negative RT-PCR result with them from a test done 72 hours prior to the journey."23scidoo said:
It is so hard to get it??..this is all over the net..boarded with a negative test and when they arrived in Hong Kong they were tested positive..benjs said:
No, they're not the scientists I talk about. Once again, Sputnik Vaccine, the author of those tweets, is a Russian pharmaceutical company with a clear conflict of interest. If this is truly credible, again, why aren't other media networks reporting this?23scidoo said:
''Russian Twitter account''..those are the scientist you talks about..benjs said:
So, to confirm, you don’t have a single scientific reference. Just a single Russian Twitter account. Got it.23scidoo said:
Also not my fault you posted an article with your own assumptions added in, with no evidence contained.
ask you again..can you fly if you are not healthy??..can??
And I'll answer you again (with the same answer again), obviously you can fly if you're not healthy, or variants sourced in one part of the world wouldn't keep showing up in other parts of the world. This isn't rocket science, it's just basic logic.
how can you fly with positive test, not be healthy??..
well, now those pharmaceutical companies are not science??..or cause are Russians??..
What don't you understand about that leaving room for people to develop the disease before travelling? 72 hours of opportunity.
On the pharmaceutical companies, also not hard to understand. Scientific bodies exist to confirm or reject findings from companies, because of an obvious conflict of interest. If I wanted to know if Pfizer vaccines were safe, I wouldn't take Pfizer's word for it - I'd take the scientific community's. It's your responsibility if you're trying to make people believe something to share credible evidence. You haven't shared any of that.
i'm not trying anything here..what i see is, one big pharma attack to others, that's scary..0 -
Why not 24h??..i have to travel to an island next week..they ask test 48h before..PJNB said:
I would not say they are useless. Perfect? Not even close but at least it is better than no testing.23scidoo said:
Finally you get my issues..so,72 hours test before flight is useless!!..benjs said:
From the article you shared: "According to rules, all passengers who want to come to Hong Kong need to have a Covid-negative RT-PCR result with them from a test done 72 hours prior to the journey."23scidoo said:
It is so hard to get it??..this is all over the net..boarded with a negative test and when they arrived in Hong Kong they were tested positive..benjs said:
No, they're not the scientists I talk about. Once again, Sputnik Vaccine, the author of those tweets, is a Russian pharmaceutical company with a clear conflict of interest. If this is truly credible, again, why aren't other media networks reporting this?23scidoo said:
''Russian Twitter account''..those are the scientist you talks about..benjs said:
So, to confirm, you don’t have a single scientific reference. Just a single Russian Twitter account. Got it.23scidoo said:
Also not my fault you posted an article with your own assumptions added in, with no evidence contained.
ask you again..can you fly if you are not healthy??..can??
And I'll answer you again (with the same answer again), obviously you can fly if you're not healthy, or variants sourced in one part of the world wouldn't keep showing up in other parts of the world. This isn't rocket science, it's just basic logic.
how can you fly with positive test, not be healthy??..
well, now those pharmaceutical companies are not science??..or cause are Russians??..
What don't you understand about that leaving room for people to develop the disease before travelling? 72 hours of opportunity.
On the pharmaceutical companies, also not hard to understand. Scientific bodies exist to confirm or reject findings from companies, because of an obvious conflict of interest. If I wanted to know if Pfizer vaccines were safe, I wouldn't take Pfizer's word for it - I'd take the scientific community's. It's your responsibility if you're trying to make people believe something to share credible evidence. You haven't shared any of that.
i'm not trying anything here..what i see is, one big pharma attack to others, that's scary..Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..0 -
No, I still don't get your issues.23scidoo said:
Finally you get my issues..so,72 hours test before flight is useless!!..benjs said:
From the article you shared: "According to rules, all passengers who want to come to Hong Kong need to have a Covid-negative RT-PCR result with them from a test done 72 hours prior to the journey."23scidoo said:
It is so hard to get it??..this is all over the net..boarded with a negative test and when they arrived in Hong Kong they were tested positive..benjs said:
No, they're not the scientists I talk about. Once again, Sputnik Vaccine, the author of those tweets, is a Russian pharmaceutical company with a clear conflict of interest. If this is truly credible, again, why aren't other media networks reporting this?23scidoo said:
''Russian Twitter account''..those are the scientist you talks about..benjs said:
So, to confirm, you don’t have a single scientific reference. Just a single Russian Twitter account. Got it.23scidoo said:
Also not my fault you posted an article with your own assumptions added in, with no evidence contained.
ask you again..can you fly if you are not healthy??..can??
And I'll answer you again (with the same answer again), obviously you can fly if you're not healthy, or variants sourced in one part of the world wouldn't keep showing up in other parts of the world. This isn't rocket science, it's just basic logic.
how can you fly with positive test, not be healthy??..
well, now those pharmaceutical companies are not science??..or cause are Russians??..
What don't you understand about that leaving room for people to develop the disease before travelling? 72 hours of opportunity.
On the pharmaceutical companies, also not hard to understand. Scientific bodies exist to confirm or reject findings from companies, because of an obvious conflict of interest. If I wanted to know if Pfizer vaccines were safe, I wouldn't take Pfizer's word for it - I'd take the scientific community's. It's your responsibility if you're trying to make people believe something to share credible evidence. You haven't shared any of that.
i'm not trying anything here..what i see is, one big pharma attack to others, that's scary..
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This is a damn shame. The one Vax that I really believed in will be gone forever. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bradenton-family-may-spend-life-in-prison-after-church-sold-bleach-as-covid-19-cure/ar-BB1fZob4?ocid=uxbndlbing0
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This seems symptomatic of a few things:mrussel1 said:This is a damn shame. The one Vax that I really believed in will be gone forever. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bradenton-family-may-spend-life-in-prison-after-church-sold-bleach-as-covid-19-cure/ar-BB1fZob4?ocid=uxbndlbing- Ignorance being at least as valued as expertise
- This was sold as a "cure," which helps the user and doesn't help others. Individualism is growing toxic.
- Good ol' fashioned greed with no worry about the potential death and destruction that needs to occur in order to get rich.
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Dad(67 yo) got his shot last week.
There was a story about a lot of shots being unused in my hometown, so I told mom (62 yo) TO GET ON IT and now she's got a time on the 29th for her shot."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations
We are almost (if not already) at the point where anyone who wants a vaccine can just log on in the morning and get it same day. To me, that has always been the "end" of the pandemic, and that is a thought I maintain today.2010: Cleveland
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Weston1283 said:In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations
We are almost (if not already) at the point where anyone who wants a vaccine can just log on in the morning and get it same day. To me, that has always been the "end" of the pandemic, and that is a thought I maintain today.
That is great to hear. We are not to that point yet in NJ but I hope everyone can get this soon.
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What will happen when more people don’t want the vaccine than those who do? How will we reach the end of the pandemic then?Weston1283 said:In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations
We are almost (if not already) at the point where anyone who wants a vaccine can just log on in the morning and get it same day. To me, that has always been the "end" of the pandemic, and that is a thought I maintain today.0 -
Yeah we got my teenage son his first shot on Saturday at CVS, had been looking for a few days and it was tough to get an appointment, then suddenly the flood gates seem to be open and its pretty easy to find one now.Weston1283 said:In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations
We are almost (if not already) at the point where anyone who wants a vaccine can just log on in the morning and get it same day. To me, that has always been the "end" of the pandemic, and that is a thought I maintain today.
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I wish I could share your optimism regarding your last sentence but hearing reports that less than half of repubs will get the vaccine and that millions of ‘Muricans are skipping their second dose, something makes me think we’re headed toward a The Stand type of future. Super bugs, Trashcan Man and a mass migration to either Boulder or Vegas.Weston1283 said:In Massachusetts, you can go on CVS website and all morning and right now there are tons of openings for at least 50% of CVS locations
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So drinking bleach and injecting lysol won't work?mrussel1 said:This is a damn shame. The one Vax that I really believed in will be gone forever. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/bradenton-family-may-spend-life-in-prison-after-church-sold-bleach-as-covid-19-cure/ar-BB1fZob4?ocid=uxbndlbing
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