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  • BennyLaRueBennyLaRue Posts: 751
    BF25394 said:
    57:03 would make for an average track length of 4:45 across 12 tracks.  That would be really long for an average song.  "Vitalogy" needed 14 tracks to get to 55:30, and one of those was nearly eight minutes long.  (Of course, another was only about a minute long, so they averaged out to about 4:30.  Still, the average track length on "Vitalogy" was 3:58, and it's a long way from 3:58 to 4:45.)  That kind of makes me wonder if there's a hidden track padding the total run time (i.e., track 12 ends at 46:00, then a 3-minute hidden track starts at 54:00).
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  • BF25394BF25394 Posts: 4,766
    BennyLaRue said:
    BF25394 said:
    57:03 would make for an average track length of 4:45 across 12 tracks.  That would be really long for an average song.  "Vitalogy" needed 14 tracks to get to 55:30, and one of those was nearly eight minutes long.  (Of course, another was only about a minute long, so they averaged out to about 4:30.  Still, the average track length on "Vitalogy" was 3:58, and it's a long way from 3:58 to 4:45.)  That kind of makes me wonder if there's a hidden track padding the total run time (i.e., track 12 ends at 46:00, then a 3-minute hidden track starts at 54:00).
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 8,587
    This a jam band album? 
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    Would be the longest album if I’m not mistaken. I remember from my CD player that Vitalogy clocked in just over 55. 

    Wouldn’t be too shocked to see this album have some long experimental track in the vein of Stupid Mop. 
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  • primussucksprimussucks Posts: 2,364
    Isnt DOTC a radio edit??  Could it be the album version is much longer??
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,319
    Jed said:
    Subtracting Dance at 4:25, we still have almost 53 minutes of new music coming our way!
    Great point. This makes me so happy
  • GarasaurasGarasauras Ontario Posts: 232
    Jed said:
    Subtracting Dance at 4:25, we still have almost 53 minutes of new music coming our way!
    Don’t forget the single version is edited. So the song could be longer on the album 
  • AKRounder85AKRounder85 Phila Posts: 250
    If there's a "filler track" on the record which one do you think it is?

    I'll put my money on Comes Then Goes.
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  • MickeyMouseMickeyMouse Posts: 1,055
    primussucks said:
    Isnt DOTC a radio edit??  Could it be the album version is much longer??
    No, the album version is 4:25
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  • BrainofBGABrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,437
    Hidden track is of the earth studio recording. 
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,559


    Someone posted this on reddit
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,595
    SVRDhand13 said:


    Someone posted this on reddit
    Very interesting if true. I would be surprised if River Cross was indeed that long so maybe there is a track at the end like they have done in the past.

    A handful of 5 and 6 minute songs is crazy though! 
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 10,106
    edited January 2020
    Some serious song lengths on there if that's accurate. That hopefully means each band member is unleashed a few times throughout and we get some whoop ass solos and musical experimentation. :rock_on:
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,319
    UNLEASH MIKE!!
  • KV4053KV4053 Mike's side, crushed up against the stage Posts: 1,504
    So, unless my math is wrong, the album really is 57 minutes
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  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,559
    KV4053 said:
    So, unless my math is wrong, the album really is 57 minutes
    Your math is correct.  I am very surprised but delighted about this.  
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,595
    I believe nothing from Reddit and could just be a fan that threw in some numbers once we knew the length. 

    Hope it is true though. Rive Cross is my most hyped song and if that is the real length look out!
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,559
    PJNB said:
    I believe nothing from Reddit and could just be a fan that threw in some numbers once we knew the length. 

    Hope it is true though. Rive Cross is my most hyped song and if that is the real length look out!
    They took a screenshot from google.  I checked and it's still there.  Just wanted to give credit to the source and didn't want to claim I found this myself.  
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,595
    SVRDhand13 said:
    PJNB said:
    I believe nothing from Reddit and could just be a fan that threw in some numbers once we knew the length. 

    Hope it is true though. Rive Cross is my most hyped song and if that is the real length look out!
    They took a screenshot from google.  I checked and it's still there.  Just wanted to give credit to the source and didn't want to claim I found this myself.  
    Nice! This album can't come soon enough. Way more excited then I was for LB.
  • JPPJ84JPPJ84 Hamburg, Germany Posts: 3,464
    My hope and expectation is definitely very high. I’m singing DotC in my head as I‘m typing this :smile:
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,448
    It would have been funny if they named the album 57:03. Kasabian named one of their albums 48:13
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    PJNB said:
    SVRDhand13 said:


    Someone posted this on reddit
    Very interesting if true. I would be surprised if River Cross was indeed that long so maybe there is a track at the end like they have done in the past.

    A handful of 5 and 6 minute songs is crazy though! 

    Wikipedia has it has those lengths so that's cool. Can't fucking wait!

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 28,743
    Not counting stupid mop, what is pj s longest studio song? Would it be “seven o’clock”?
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,595
    mcgruff10 said:
    Not counting stupid mop, what is pj s longest studio song? Would it be “seven o’clock”?

    1. Inside Job 7:09
    2. Off He Goes 6:01
    3. W.M.A 5:59
    4. Not For You 5:54
    5. Present Tense 5:47
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,559
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Not counting stupid mop, what is pj s longest studio song? Would it be “seven o’clock”?

    1. Inside Job 7:09
    2. Off He Goes 6:01
    3. W.M.A 5:59
    4. Not For You 5:54
    5. Present Tense 5:47
    Inside Job has a pretty long silent section and an outro 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,595
    SVRDhand13 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Not counting stupid mop, what is pj s longest studio song? Would it be “seven o’clock”?

    1. Inside Job 7:09
    2. Off He Goes 6:01
    3. W.M.A 5:59
    4. Not For You 5:54
    5. Present Tense 5:47
    Inside Job has a pretty long silent section and an outro 
    True but I would still clock it in at 6:30 for the official song. 
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,559
    PJNB said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Not counting stupid mop, what is pj s longest studio song? Would it be “seven o’clock”?

    1. Inside Job 7:09
    2. Off He Goes 6:01
    3. W.M.A 5:59
    4. Not For You 5:54
    5. Present Tense 5:47
    Inside Job has a pretty long silent section and an outro 
    True but I would still clock it in at 6:30 for the official song. 
    Damn that’s crazy. Also never realized Off He Goes is that long. 
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    2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
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    2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
    2017: RRHoF 4/7   2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4   2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,595
    SVRDhand13 said:
    PJNB said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Not counting stupid mop, what is pj s longest studio song? Would it be “seven o’clock”?

    1. Inside Job 7:09
    2. Off He Goes 6:01
    3. W.M.A 5:59
    4. Not For You 5:54
    5. Present Tense 5:47
    Inside Job has a pretty long silent section and an outro 
    True but I would still clock it in at 6:30 for the official song. 
    Damn that’s crazy. Also never realized Off He Goes is that long. 
    Was thinking the same thing. Thought it would be 4:00 tops. Love that song. 
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