They've played stadium shows here in the past. They've had plenty of shows in Texas in the past 20 years: Dallas, San Antonio, Austin. But not Houston. I'm tired of having to travel to the East Coast or overseas to see them. UGH
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If a festival has a radius clause, that might be part of the reason.
Both ACL (austin) and Voodoo Fest (new orleans) have contractual clauses that prevent playing Houston +/- 3 months around a headlining gig at either festival.
Houston is 5X as big population wise... so that logic makes perfect sense. Why play a show in Houston when you can force all it's residents to drive 3 hours to Austin or 6 hours to New Orleans to see a greatest hits, 2 hour setlist and make 4 times the money! Cha-ching...
(side note - first post in about 3 years and of course it is only inspired by bitterness... lol... some things don't change).
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
If a festival has a radius clause, that might be part of the reason.
Both ACL (austin) and Voodoo Fest (new orleans) have contractual clauses that prevent playing Houston +/- 3 months around a headlining gig at either festival.
Houston is 5X as big population wise... so that logic makes perfect sense. Why play a show in Houston when you can force all it's residents to drive 3 hours to Austin or 6 hours to New Orleans to see a greatest hits, 2 hour setlist and make 4 times the money! Cha-ching...
(side note - first post in about 3 years and of course it is only inspired by bitterness... lol... some things don't change).
Steve Gleason wrote the setlist for Voodoo at 2013 and its probably one of the most under rated PJ fest shows of last decade.
Same with Jazzfest in 2016. "Greatest Hits" set my butt
If a festival has a radius clause, that might be part of the reason.
Both ACL (austin) and Voodoo Fest (new orleans) have contractual clauses that prevent playing Houston +/- 3 months around a headlining gig at either festival.
Houston is 5X as big population wise... so that logic makes perfect sense. Why play a show in Houston when you can force all it's residents to drive 3 hours to Austin or 6 hours to New Orleans to see a greatest hits, 2 hour setlist and make 4 times the money! Cha-ching...
(side note - first post in about 3 years and of course it is only inspired by bitterness... lol... some things don't change).
Steve Gleason wrote the setlist for Voodoo at 2013 and its probably one of the most under rated PJ fest shows of last decade.
Same with Jazzfest in 2016. "Greatest Hits" set my butt
One man's trash is another man's treasure.
I was actually reading an article the other day how there are sellers on amazon literally reselling people's garbage... so hey...
But you're entirely correct. I shouldn't be complaining about setlists or time spent on stage, it's just that this band has spoiled its fans rotten... I mean complaining about a 2-hour set in and of itself is ridiculous... most touring bands stretch to 90 minutes including their encore.
And I look back at the Jazzfest set list from 2016 - that was actually the last show I attended... two kids, my brother and brother-in-law each got married, and i've bought a sold a house since then... so I guess i just kinda forgot how odd it was with all the other life events coming down the pipe between then and now...
That voodoo setlist is a little pedestrian for me though... again, one man's trash is another man's treasure. I do hope that texas gets proper shows in 2020, though i doubt it. It will probably be ACL or Voodoo... I just don't have the time or energy to deal with either of those events... they take a lot more effort or coordination to get to, and for me, just don't have the value anymore....
I not so sure about that radius clause anymore when it comes to ACL. Both Tame Impala and Mumford played Houston in between ACL weekends last year.
Not headliners. The radius clause still exists, trust me. The raconteurs and Arctic Monkeys also got away with it a couple of years back - but the venue size is the key... when the bands played Houston in between ACL sets, it was at a 3000 person venue... While I would love to see PJ in that same room, it just isn't going to happen. When Eddie played Houston on that solo tour in 2014, it was at a bigger venue... and it was sold out 2 nights in a row...
They may not be headliners in your mind or musical tastes and I respect that, but they headlined ACL on Friday and Sunday respectively. Edit. Regarding venue size. Mumford played the Toyota Center.
They may not be headliners in your mind or musical tastes and I respect that, but they headlined ACL on Friday and Sunday respectively. Edit. Regarding venue size. Mumford played the Toyota Center.
huh. you're right. that is interesting indeed.
well, here's to having hope, but not gonna hold my breath.
Houston, Texas... Believe it or not, there are 7 million people here... must be a couple of fans who'd love to see you play.
Also, I find it comical when the East Coast fans cry over only having two shows during the Spring tour and talk about the band wasting the opportunity to play to more fans in that area. The band could sell out 6-8 20k shows in the state of Texas easily but chooses not to.
Also, I find it comical when the East Coast fans cry over only having two shows during the Spring tour and talk about the band wasting the opportunity to play to more fans in that area. The band could sell out 6-8 20k shows in the state of Texas easily but chooses not to.
They would need to then stay in Texas for a few weeks.
I thought Dimi said no festivals in 2020. I’m still hearing strong rumors of a Houston show in the Fall. We’ll see.
Doesn’t sound like he knows the fall schedule. I can see them doing ACL or some Texas dates but not both. Hope I’m wrong. I’d rather them do a Houston, Dallas stop than ACL even though I live here.
This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
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....and I've lived in this armpit of a city for 42 years
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
Houston is 5X as big population wise... so that logic makes perfect sense. Why play a show in Houston when you can force all it's residents to drive 3 hours to Austin or 6 hours to New Orleans to see a greatest hits, 2 hour setlist and make 4 times the money! Cha-ching...
(side note - first post in about 3 years and of course it is only inspired by bitterness... lol... some things don't change).
strange that the acl clause apply's to houston but not dallas. i know smaller bands can play SA, so maybe it's a headliner thing.
Same with Jazzfest in 2016. "Greatest Hits" set my butt
I was actually reading an article the other day how there are sellers on amazon literally reselling people's garbage... so hey...
But you're entirely correct. I shouldn't be complaining about setlists or time spent on stage, it's just that this band has spoiled its fans rotten... I mean complaining about a 2-hour set in and of itself is ridiculous... most touring bands stretch to 90 minutes including their encore.
And I look back at the Jazzfest set list from 2016 - that was actually the last show I attended... two kids, my brother and brother-in-law each got married, and i've bought a sold a house since then... so I guess i just kinda forgot how odd it was with all the other life events coming down the pipe between then and now...
That voodoo setlist is a little pedestrian for me though... again, one man's trash is another man's treasure.
I do hope that texas gets proper shows in 2020, though i doubt it. It will probably be ACL or Voodoo... I just don't have the time or energy to deal with either of those events... they take a lot more effort or coordination to get to, and for me, just don't have the value anymore....
Not headliners. The radius clause still exists, trust me. The raconteurs and Arctic Monkeys also got away with it a couple of years back - but the venue size is the key... when the bands played Houston in between ACL sets, it was at a 3000 person venue... While I would love to see PJ in that same room, it just isn't going to happen. When Eddie played Houston on that solo tour in 2014, it was at a bigger venue... and it was sold out 2 nights in a row...
It applies to dallas also - again though, there are venue size details included... and it's really only the names in the largest font!
Doing any shows Cam?
The wife gave me permission to do St. Louis... thinking about it pretty hard.
Edit. Regarding venue size. Mumford played the Toyota Center.
you're right.
that is interesting indeed.
well, here's to having hope, but not gonna hold my breath.