Will Pearl Jam - I Will Fly You To The Moon And Back sell more than Lightning Bolt?

Spiritual_Chaos

Lightning Bolt sold 166.000 copies it's first week in the US. Will the 11th album beat it?

JDime20

Yes. It will sell more.

Where is that name coming from? Just taking a stab?

Spiritual_Chaos

JDime20 said:

Where is that name coming from? Just taking a stab?

The GOAT love song

https://youtu.be/HCm6gRHINqA

Abe Froman

We don’t even know if the album is done yet. 

mookeywrench

You can't speculate album sales until the album is completed? 

jimnelsen

I want my Christmas single first.

josevolution

Is this for realzzzz

rummy

For what it's worth, I bought Lightning Bolt (CD version) back in 2013 and it's still in its cello wrap (I got a hold of digital download). This was one of the last CD's I bought as I began I've subscribing to Apple Music not long after. Because of this, there's a good chance I won't even purchase a physical copy of the new album (but will listen to it lots via streaming) and I think the new album will not outsell Lightning Bolt. Admittedly, I'm really only speaking for myself and could be very very wrong.

pearljammr78

If it’s good and has a radio hit or two it will sell better. If it’s not as radio friendly, and doesn’t have an solid advertising push then no. I will buy the vinyl regardless but I have Apple Music so I will just stream it. And I have no doubt the next album is going to be amazing! All just my opinion. 

If that was the real name of the album I don’t think I’d even buy the vinyl. That’s a horrible name. 

Zod

I doubt it.   We live in the land of diminishing album sales (piracy, legal streaming etc..).   They don't sell much, so not much is put into promoting them.   Not that it would do much good.   PJ cause a core audience that buys their stuff.   Selling it outside of that audience would be tough.  I'm not sure how much actual marketing would do.   Basically you use Social Media to let the audience know its there, then release it.   People that give a shit will know, people that don't, won't.

The question is when will it come out.   Some rumours made it sound like it was done and in post production.  Others are the same.  Band goes in for recording session, gives it a go, but then in some interview it doesn't sound like they're making much progress.

I hope we get one.   PJ is the last band I buy cd's for anymore.  Otherwise it's just final and download (or "borrow") the flac copy for digital devices.  Thus they'd get two sales out of me.  CD and Vinyl.   Which I'm sure other people do, which makes those album sales numbers even sadder :(

brianlux

JDime20 said:

Where is that name coming from? Just taking a stab?

It's something Stone came up with one night while digging though his album collection: 

"I'm in love with Frank Sinatra

Fly me to the moon"

From "We Love You" by the Psychedelic Furs.

It's rumored side two is a 21 minute bass duo jam featuring Jeff going head-to-head with The Furs Tim Butler, and on which Eddie and Richard Butler screech and howl in the background, Mike and Stone crank out angular whole tone scale riffs, Matt pounds the crap out of a minimalist kit and Boom holds one droning organ not through out.  It will be considered their avante garde opus.

(Hey, if we're making up shit...  )

PB11041

Yes. It will sell more.

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

Spiritual_Chaos

PB11041 said:

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

I don't think people steal more music now than in 2013. The percentage of streams versus physical copies keep shifting though.And the attitude of listening to albums VS picking your own songs and listening to playlists have also changed.

PB11041

Yes. It will sell more.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PB11041 said:

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

I don't think people steal more music now than in 2013. The percentage of streams versus physical copies keep shifting though.And the attitude of listening to albums VS picking your own songs and listening to playlists have also changed.

didn't say it was more now vs then, just that people are full of shit and are okay with taking things because technology has availed it. streaming is a whole different soulless animal.

Spiritual_Chaos

PB11041 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PB11041 said:

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

I don't think people steal more music now than in 2013. The percentage of streams versus physical copies keep shifting though.And the attitude of listening to albums VS picking your own songs and listening to playlists have also changed.

didn't say it was more now vs then, just that people are full of shit and are okay with taking things because technology has availed it. streaming is a whole different soulless animal.

People took things when they copied their friends albums on cassettes too. Or copied Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter from the rented VHS. It was just a bit more cumbersome.

So, "taking shit" has never been a problem for people.

If streaming is soulless or not, well that is an opinion you can have ofc Neil.

PB11041

Yes. It will sell more.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PB11041 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PB11041 said:

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

I don't think people steal more music now than in 2013. The percentage of streams versus physical copies keep shifting though.And the attitude of listening to albums VS picking your own songs and listening to playlists have also changed.

didn't say it was more now vs then, just that people are full of shit and are okay with taking things because technology has availed it. streaming is a whole different soulless animal.

People took things when they copied their friends albums on cassettes too. Or copied Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter from the rented VHS. It was just a bit more cumbersome.

So, "taking shit" has never been a problem for people.

If streaming is soulless or not, well that is an opinion you can have ofc Neil.

never said to the contrary, but it is a vastly different animal with each step of technological advancement.  And now it is frictionless and instantaneous. 

Spiritual_Chaos

PB11041 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PB11041 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PB11041 said:

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

I don't think people steal more music now than in 2013. The percentage of streams versus physical copies keep shifting though.And the attitude of listening to albums VS picking your own songs and listening to playlists have also changed.

didn't say it was more now vs then, just that people are full of shit and are okay with taking things because technology has availed it. streaming is a whole different soulless animal.

People took things when they copied their friends albums on cassettes too. Or copied Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter from the rented VHS. It was just a bit more cumbersome.

So, "taking shit" has never been a problem for people.

If streaming is soulless or not, well that is an opinion you can have ofc Neil.

never said to the contrary, but it is a vastly different animal with each step of technological advancement.  And now it is frictionless and instantaneous. 

That is true. But now, streaming has made it so that the business has slid between the customer and the alluring privacy with something even simpler and more friction-less. Which in some way is pretty cool. 

And now with tour/ticket info and links to the artists merch being included on the artists page on these streaming services - the artist page becoming a hub and an all-inclusive marketplace for the artist I'm starting to see how nifty it is -- and can become.

tempo_n_groove

Yes. It will sell more.

Only if Stone Sings!

HughFreakingDillon

PB11041 said:

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

I think the hardcores are the only for sures when it comes to album sales. everything else depends on the first and second singles. if they flop, so will the record. 

PB11041

Yes. It will sell more.

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

I think the hardcores are the only for sures when it comes to album sales. everything else depends on the first and second singles. if they flop, so will the record. 

true,and I should clarify extremely well, to me that would be they are outselling lightning bolt.   We are at a weird time in music entertainment history, when cars are being made that only connect to phones.  No CD player in it.  

HughFreakingDillon

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

my caveat is this...

with how many fans seem to be clamoring for and in some cases demanding new music from the band, if it does not sell extremely well, and I would expect more than LB because of the long layoff, it would only be because people continue to be okay with stealing music. 

I think the hardcores are the only for sures when it comes to album sales. everything else depends on the first and second singles. if they flop, so will the record. 

true,and I should clarify extremely well, to me that would be they are outselling lightning bolt.   We are at a weird time in music entertainment history, when cars are being made that only connect to phones.  No CD player in it.  

I recently found that out when my parents were in the market for a new car just a couple months ago. My dad was pissed that most cars didn't come with a cd player. Crazy. 

Spiritual_Chaos

I don't see what's crazy about that. At all. It's 2019.

HughFreakingDillon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

I don't see what's crazy about that. At all. It's 2019.

I know, i just didn't see it coming, since I'm still an active cd buyer. 

Spiritual_Chaos

For forever my dad put some casette in the cassette deck that had a wire that lead into a portable Discman.

The opposite problem.

HughFreakingDillon

Spiritual_Chaos said:

For forever my dad put some casette in the cassette deck that had a wire that lead into a portable Discman.

The opposite problem.

haha I did that too with my first car. 

Spiritual_Chaos

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

For forever my dad put some casette in the cassette deck that had a wire that lead into a portable Discman.

The opposite problem.

haha I did that too with my first car. 

Waiting with your friends after soccer practice and in the distance you hear the distant rumble of Frank Zappa blasting from a Discman inside your dads Volvo 240.

igotid88

When Lightning Bolt came out Billboard didn't count streaming. They started doing that in 2014. So it depends on how well it streams. For example The Who sold 98k copies last week. But streamed about a 1k stream equivalent sales. The #1 album only sold 2k but got streamed an equivalent of 90k

MakingWaves

Yes. It will sell more.

brianlux said:

JDime20 said:

Where is that name coming from? Just taking a stab?

It's something Stone came up with one night while digging though his album collection: 

"I'm in love with Frank Sinatra

Fly me to the moon"

From "We Love You" by the Psychedelic Furs.

It's rumored side two is a 21 minute bass duo jam featuring Jeff going head-to-head with The Furs Tim Butler, and on which Eddie and Richard Butler screech and howl in the background, Mike and Stone crank out angular whole tone scale riffs, Matt pounds the crap out of a minimalist kit and Boom holds one droning organ not through out.  It will be considered their avante garde opus.

(Hey, if we're making up shit...  )

Awesome!  

PJammer4life

brianlux said:

JDime20 said:

Where is that name coming from? Just taking a stab?

It's something Stone came up with one night while digging though his album collection: 

"I'm in love with Frank Sinatra

Fly me to the moon"

From "We Love You" by the Psychedelic Furs.

It's rumored side two is a 21 minute bass duo jam featuring Jeff going head-to-head with The Furs Tim Butler, and on which Eddie and Richard Butler screech and howl in the background, Mike and Stone crank out angular whole tone scale riffs, Matt pounds the crap out of a minimalist kit and Boom holds one droning organ not through out.  It will be considered their avante garde opus.

(Hey, if we're making up shit...  )

I just saw this on Alternative Nation as breaking news.😎