Advice on how to get out of jury duty.

Spiritual_Chaos

bootlegger10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjhawks said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

So weird having jurys made out of random people who knows nothing of the law deciding on peoples fates.

I would be too scared to say or think anything.

why? it's actually a great system. a  jury of 12 is far less likely to be biased than 1 judge.  and you are given specific instructions on what each charge is and what is required for said charge to be guilty.  the problems in our justice system do not come from a jury system. They come from prosecutors who have a very wide leeway on who is charged and what charges are brought.  that is a much bigger issue than juries.  

Why do you limit it to a binary choice of "the great system of 12" or "the bad system of 1 judge" ?

Please inform us what the best system is.  We can all tell you are dying to tell us.

Too dangerous. I got banned and is on some form of  probation because of "sarcasm". So I feel rather lawless on here and is not here to debate.
I just asked a question to pjhawk out of curiosity. And not on AMT, but on AET.

Hope you understand. Thank you.

F Me In The Brain

"Sarcasm"
The use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

Yeah, I am not sure about the use of irony.  The rest of it fits though.

I've been called a number of times since moving to NJ, most recently earlier this year.  (State, after having been called for Federal last year.)
I reported but was waived via phone/text the past two times.
The previous time I went and sat for most of a day at the courthouse before being told o was excused since the juries were selected.

I am interested in doing it but it would be a pretty large difficulty with my work schedule and traveling as much as I do for work.  

Once retired I would like to be called and to try and be a fair juror.
I think the system is fucked that most of the people are angry to be selected.  Doesn't bode well for then trying to be fair if they resent that they have to be there.

deadendp

The first time I was called up, I was down with a blown knee, broken leg and due for surgery. They excused me.

Since jury pay isn't given either by the courts or by where I work, it is not financially feasible for me to set life aside for an undetermined period of time. I'd probably fall asleep anyhow. I sleep with my eyes open, so maybe they wouldn't notice... 

Halifax2TheMax

Go for it on fourth and one?

DewieCox

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjhawks said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

So weird having jurys made out of random people who knows nothing of the law deciding on peoples fates.

I would be too scared to say or think anything.

why? it's actually a great system. a  jury of 12 is far less likely to be biased than 1 judge.  and you are given specific instructions on what each charge is and what is required for said charge to be guilty.  the problems in our justice system do not come from a jury system. They come from prosecutors who have a very wide leeway on who is charged and what charges are brought.  that is a much bigger issue than juries.  

Why do you limit it to a binary choice of "the great system of 12" or "the bad system of 1 judge" ?

Please inform us what the best system is.  We can all tell you are dying to tell us.

Too dangerous. I got banned and is on some form of  probation because of "sarcasm". So I feel rather lawless on here and is not here to debate.
I just asked a question to pjhawk out of curiosity. And not on AMT, but on AET.

Hope you understand. Thank you.

I feel for ya man. Once person arbitrarily deciding your innocence or guilt based as much or more on their overarching viewpoint than the actual offense  If only there were a system where they randomly selected 12 fellow poster to review the incident and decide if you should be punished or not. 

Spiritual_Chaos

DewieCox said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjhawks said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

So weird having jurys made out of random people who knows nothing of the law deciding on peoples fates.

I would be too scared to say or think anything.

why? it's actually a great system. a  jury of 12 is far less likely to be biased than 1 judge.  and you are given specific instructions on what each charge is and what is required for said charge to be guilty.  the problems in our justice system do not come from a jury system. They come from prosecutors who have a very wide leeway on who is charged and what charges are brought.  that is a much bigger issue than juries.  

Why do you limit it to a binary choice of "the great system of 12" or "the bad system of 1 judge" ?

Please inform us what the best system is.  We can all tell you are dying to tell us.

Too dangerous. I got banned and is on some form of  probation because of "sarcasm". So I feel rather lawless on here and is not here to debate.
I just asked a question to pjhawk out of curiosity. And not on AMT, but on AET.

Hope you understand. Thank you.

I feel for ya man. Once person arbitrarily deciding your innocence or guilt based as much or more on their overarching viewpoint than the actual offense  If only there were a system where they randomly selected 12 fellow poster to review the incident and decide if you should be punished or not. 

Spiritual_Chaos said:

So weird having jurys made out of random people who knows nothing of the law deciding on peoples fates.

mickeyrat

oh but we have 500 episodes of law asnd order to chose from......

Glorified KC

So far I’m 0 for 3.

Gern Blansten

Just tell them you can spot a guilty person just by looking at them

mace1229

Unless you are at a job that doesn't pay while you're on jury duty, why do so many want to get out of it? I would think it is fun, and something completely different than going to work. 
And most trials are 3-4 days, very rarely are you on one for over a week. Pretty much only the celebrity/highly publicized cases. Sounds like fun, I'd be into it if I was ever allowed.

wall232

I've done jury duty twice and never get picked. I've ignored the notice the last few years, I get all the follow up notices saying I could be fined or jailed and then after a few of those they stop. A year later the whole process starts over again, I swear the next time I get called I'll go..unless there is a tour.

Glorified KC

Still not picked yet.  If I don’t today, i’ll still have to come back in tomorrow.

Glorified KC

So I ended up not getting picked.  There was a blood drive going on in the courthouse, and anyone who wanted to participate was put into a separate juror pool.  I volunteered, however they only took 6 down at a time and went by alphabetical order.  I ended up not giving blood, because the drive ended around 3pm and when I was placed back into the standard juror pool it was almost the end of the day.  Then all of us, who weren't picked were told we didn't have to come back today. 

F Me In The Brain

cdthomas1981 said:

So I ended up not getting picked.  There was a blood drive going on in the courthouse, and anyone who wanted to participate was put into a separate juror pool.  I volunteered, however they only took 6 down at a time and went by alphabetical order.  I ended up not giving blood, because the drive ended around 3pm and when I was placed back into the standard juror pool it was almost the end of the day.  Then all of us, who weren't picked were told we didn't have to come back today. 

So only one day there?

Could have been worse - too bad they were not able to collect blood from all who wanted to donate, this is a valuable resource.

Glorified KC

F Me In The Brain said:

cdthomas1981 said:

So I ended up not getting picked.  There was a blood drive going on in the courthouse, and anyone who wanted to participate was put into a separate juror pool.  I volunteered, however they only took 6 down at a time and went by alphabetical order.  I ended up not giving blood, because the drive ended around 3pm and when I was placed back into the standard juror pool it was almost the end of the day.  Then all of us, who weren't picked were told we didn't have to come back today. 

So only one day there?

Could have been worse - too bad they were not able to collect blood from all who wanted to donate, this is a valuable resource.

I used to donate all of the time.  I have O negative.  At some point, when things are more practical in my life, I'd like to get back to doing it more regularly.

markymark550

mace1229 said:

Unless you are at a job that doesn't pay while you're on jury duty, why do so many want to get out of it? I would think it is fun, and something completely different than going to work. 
And most trials are 3-4 days, very rarely are you on one for over a week. Pretty much only the celebrity/highly publicized cases. Sounds like fun, I'd be into it if I was ever allowed.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind serving on a jury as long as the case didn't go past that 3-4 day average. Last time I was called in was around the time that Dylann Roof's trial (Charleston massacre gunman) was about to start. At the time, there was some talk of moving the trial away from the SC lowcountry and placing it in Columbia where I live. I was definitely worried that was going to be the case because that one had the possibility of lasting a long time. That wound up not being the case as it stayed in Charleston. The trial, which I wasn't selected, was a case of inmate abuse by SC Corrections Officers. I didn't mind not being selected for that one either 

mca47

I was recently summoned for a big, high profile trial.  There were about 100 potential jurors to start with.  
Had to sit there and hear excuse after excuse why people couldn't do it.  Some of them were completely ridiculous.  I actually felt bad for the judge, having to sit there and having to hear all of that bullshit.  
I didn't want to do it, but I had no excuse not to.  They cut me during the last round.  Woohoo!

dankind

I will never serve.

I don't have any excuses; I just have scruples.

I'm not trying to get out of anything; I just vehemently oppose the whole process, and I tell the truth about how I feel to the officers of the court -- you know, how you're supposed to do.

Glorified KC

In all honesty, if I had made the initial cut, I wouldn't have bull shitted.  I just more wanted to start this thread as more humor than seriousness. 

Poncier

cdthomas1981 said:

In all honesty, if I had made the initial cut, I wouldn't have bull shitted.  I just more wanted to start this thread as more humor than seriousness. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA0glbG6c-8