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mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,583
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  I'm listening to "It Came from Something Awful: How a Toxic Troll Army Accidentally Memed Donald Trump into Office" on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/audiobook/390611085

facinating and compelling.  heard the author interviewed on WTF. finally delved into it. I cant recommened it enough. 10 hr plus audio and I'm only a few in and had to start a thread on it. Encourage all to read or listen. look forward to the discussion and critique of the book. may even help how we interact here...

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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14

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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449

    I'm going to have to dive into this, thanks for the recommendation.

    We are living in a post truth world, and I'm genuinely concerned about where it's all headed.

  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,583
      https://www.wired.com/story/dale-beran-it-came-from-something-awful-review/

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,583
      https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/745484563/it-came-from-something-awful-links-4chan-and-todays-political-discourse

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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,583
    good synopsis and reader reviews...


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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,272
    Thanks...I'll check it out

    It is amazing (and kind of frightening) how the right can get away with this alternate reality.  Anyone is capable of putting out bullshit but the practice of turning bullshit into truth only exists on the right.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Gern Blansten said:
    Thanks...I'll check it out

    It is amazing (and kind of frightening) how the right can get away with this alternate reality.  Anyone is capable of putting out bullshit but the practice of turning bullshit into truth only exists on the right.
    You should have heard the head of CPAC on Cuomo last night. The spin of reality to this alternative universe is beyond me. It’ll be the demise of the holy US empire. And why any other news outlets other than Faux give these guys and gals air time is also beyond me.
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,272
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Thanks...I'll check it out

    It is amazing (and kind of frightening) how the right can get away with this alternate reality.  Anyone is capable of putting out bullshit but the practice of turning bullshit into truth only exists on the right.
    You should have heard the head of CPAC on Cuomo last night. The spin of reality to this alternative universe is beyond me. It’ll be the demise of the holy US empire. And why any other news outlets other than Faux give these guys and gals air time is also beyond me.
    I don't get it either.  It's powerful though.  All tRump has to do is call something "fake news" and the chud believe it.  

    Just yesterday he said it was fake news that he said he would meet with Iran with no pre-conditions yet he was on camera saying it twice.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,449
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Thanks...I'll check it out

    It is amazing (and kind of frightening) how the right can get away with this alternate reality.  Anyone is capable of putting out bullshit but the practice of turning bullshit into truth only exists on the right.
    You should have heard the head of CPAC on Cuomo last night. The spin of reality to this alternative universe is beyond me. It’ll be the demise of the holy US empire. And why any other news outlets other than Faux give these guys and gals air time is also beyond me.

    Look no further for your answer than what Les Moonves said about Trump back in 2016:


    "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS"


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Thanks...I'll check it out

    It is amazing (and kind of frightening) how the right can get away with this alternate reality.  Anyone is capable of putting out bullshit but the practice of turning bullshit into truth only exists on the right.
    You should have heard the head of CPAC on Cuomo last night. The spin of reality to this alternative universe is beyond me. It’ll be the demise of the holy US empire. And why any other news outlets other than Faux give these guys and gals air time is also beyond me.

    Look no further for your answer than what Les Moonves said about Trump back in 2016:


    "It may not be good for America, but it's damn good for CBS"


    Or what Cokie Roberts had to say, RIP.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/09/17/761050916/cokie-roberts-pioneering-female-journalist-who-helped-shape-npr-dies-at-75

    As a commentator, Roberts sometimes walked a line that threatened to eclipse her role as a dispassionate journalist. In a February 2016 op-ed co-authored with her husband, they called on "the rational wing" of the Republican Party to stop the nomination of Donald Trump.
    "[Trump] is one of the least qualified candidates ever to make a serious run for the presidency," Roberts and her husband wrote. "If he is nominated by a major party — let alone elected — the reputation of the United States would suffer a devastating blow around the world."

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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,024
    mickeyrat said:
      I'm listening to "It Came from Something Awful: How a Toxic Troll Army Accidentally Memed Donald Trump into Office" on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/audiobook/390611085

    facinating and compelling.  heard the author interviewed on WTF. finally delved into it. I cant recommened it enough. 10 hr plus audio and I'm only a few in and had to start a thread on it. Encourage all to read or listen. look forward to the discussion and critique of the book. may even help how we interact here...

    Is there a print book version of this?  I would go crazy trying to listen to something that long on my laptop.  Same with reading anything that long on a computer.  Either way, my ears or eyes would melt.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,583
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
      I'm listening to "It Came from Something Awful: How a Toxic Troll Army Accidentally Memed Donald Trump into Office" on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/audiobook/390611085

    facinating and compelling.  heard the author interviewed on WTF. finally delved into it. I cant recommened it enough. 10 hr plus audio and I'm only a few in and had to start a thread on it. Encourage all to read or listen. look forward to the discussion and critique of the book. may even help how we interact here...

    Is there a print book version of this?  I would go crazy trying to listen to something that long on my laptop.  Same with reading anything that long on a computer.  Either way, my ears or eyes would melt.
    yes, hardcover is available. being a driver, audio suits me better..
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,583
    wow. incredibly thorough. Fairly nuanced analysis.

    I would push back on a couple points made that I disagree with.  Will need to find the first again to see exactly how he framed it. but the first wascabout joe rogan and a supposed affiliation with alt right. the other was a mischaracterization of Jordan Petersins initial claim to fame.  I dont think he dig deep enough, in particular with Petersons respinse to some of the questions he was asked surrounding the mischaracterization.

    more later.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,024
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mickeyrat said:
      I'm listening to "It Came from Something Awful: How a Toxic Troll Army Accidentally Memed Donald Trump into Office" on Scribd. Check it out: https://www.scribd.com/audiobook/390611085

    facinating and compelling.  heard the author interviewed on WTF. finally delved into it. I cant recommened it enough. 10 hr plus audio and I'm only a few in and had to start a thread on it. Encourage all to read or listen. look forward to the discussion and critique of the book. may even help how we interact here...

    Is there a print book version of this?  I would go crazy trying to listen to something that long on my laptop.  Same with reading anything that long on a computer.  Either way, my ears or eyes would melt.
    yes, hardcover is available. being a driver, audio suits me better..
    I'll watch for it, thanks. 

    Yeah, audio while driving makes good sense.  Good use of the time.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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