Let's Guess Two - the 2016 -er 2017 and 2018 Holiday Single Official What's it Going to Be

jeffbr

PSUS2H said:

One of them will be from Murphys Bleachers  The other will be soundcheck from Benny 

Now those would be fanclub singles worth the wait! 

PB11041

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

Kearn5y said:

This one arrived on the 13th

Correct and this what the archived email of 3.10 looks like...

it's fine if they changed their minds, I'm just confused as to why you seem to be denying it was originally labelled as the ten club single, which is clear by kearn5y's screenshot. there was really nothing confusing or "a mess of an email" about it. it was stated plain as day. "ten club single" and "2017 single". 

They changed it 3 days later, and then changed it again, that was what was confusing and a mess of information.  If you find the flurry of changed emails about the song clear, to each their own.

PB11041

jeffbr said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

FR181798 said:

PB11041 said:

Why does everyone think can't Deny me, not seeing that happening

We were definitely told that this was the Fanclub single and also the first single from the forthcoming album. I have the email. It seemed to some a little lazy as usually the 
singles are tracks exclusive to the fanclub release.

Yup, I have the email as well. Sent on March 10, 2018. Clearly says Can't Deny Me is the 2017 fanclub single. Now they could have screwed up (wouldn't be too surprising), and changed it later, but that's what the email says.

There is nothing clear about that email, the one that followed three days later, or what is currently archived for March 10, 2018 newsletter on the website.   

I showed the screen shots in the other thread yesterday, it is a mess of information.  

I still have no idea what point you're trying to argue. Everything is clear in that email. It is clearly stated that it is the 2017 single. Why are you arguing about that? The email may have been sent prematurely, they may have changed their minds after the fact about it being the 2017 single, etc... But you keep saying the original email isn't clear. Absent the followup emails and archiving, would you still claim it wasn't clear? It was only after the original (and clearly worded) email was delivered and other emails and discussion occurred that things became confusing.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.  I am not arguing anything I am stating their string of communication about Can't Deny Me was confusing because it changed multiple times.   What I keep saying is the whole thread of communication about the song was not clear.  For fuck sake.

jeffbr

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

FR181798 said:

PB11041 said:

Why does everyone think can't Deny me, not seeing that happening

We were definitely told that this was the Fanclub single and also the first single from the forthcoming album. I have the email. It seemed to some a little lazy as usually the 
singles are tracks exclusive to the fanclub release.

Yup, I have the email as well. Sent on March 10, 2018. Clearly says Can't Deny Me is the 2017 fanclub single. Now they could have screwed up (wouldn't be too surprising), and changed it later, but that's what the email says.

There is nothing clear about that email, the one that followed three days later, or what is currently archived for March 10, 2018 newsletter on the website.   

I showed the screen shots in the other thread yesterday, it is a mess of information.  

I still have no idea what point you're trying to argue. Everything is clear in that email. It is clearly stated that it is the 2017 single. Why are you arguing about that? The email may have been sent prematurely, they may have changed their minds after the fact about it being the 2017 single, etc... But you keep saying the original email isn't clear. Absent the followup emails and archiving, would you still claim it wasn't clear? It was only after the original (and clearly worded) email was delivered and other emails and discussion occurred that things became confusing.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.  I am not arguing anything I am stating their string of communication about Can't Deny Me was confusing because it changed multiple times.   What I keep saying is the whole thread of communication about the song was not clear.  For fuck sake.

Thanks for clarifying. When you said "There is nothing clear about that email,..." I thought you meant there was nothing clear about that email. My point was that the 1st email was clear. It was the follow-ups that made everything less so. 
I agree with you that the chain of events and and 2nd email muddied the waters for sure.  It would be interesting to understand the actual intent. Was it intended to be the single, but they had a change of heart? Was the original email a mistake? Who knows. 

HughFreakingDillon

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

PB11041

HughFreakingDillon said:

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

Yeah, okay I worded the original sentence poorly, but I don't think is all that hard to see that I was talking about the whole set of communication about the song.   I freaking posted the pictures on a different thread, I would not have done that suggesting that email 1 didn't say x, it was about the whole thing, but anyway, understood it could have been clearer on my part. 

on2legs

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

FR181798 said:

PB11041 said:

Why does everyone think can't Deny me, not seeing that happening

We were definitely told that this was the Fanclub single and also the first single from the forthcoming album. I have the email. It seemed to some a little lazy as usually the 
singles are tracks exclusive to the fanclub release.

Yup, I have the email as well. Sent on March 10, 2018. Clearly says Can't Deny Me is the 2017 fanclub single. Now they could have screwed up (wouldn't be too surprising), and changed it later, but that's what the email says.

There is nothing clear about that email, the one that followed three days later, or what is currently archived for March 10, 2018 newsletter on the website.   

I showed the screen shots in the other thread yesterday, it is a mess of information.  

I still have no idea what point you're trying to argue. Everything is clear in that email. It is clearly stated that it is the 2017 single. Why are you arguing about that? The email may have been sent prematurely, they may have changed their minds after the fact about it being the 2017 single, etc... But you keep saying the original email isn't clear. Absent the followup emails and archiving, would you still claim it wasn't clear? It was only after the original (and clearly worded) email was delivered and other emails and discussion occurred that things became confusing.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.  I am not arguing anything I am stating their string of communication about Can't Deny Me was confusing because it changed multiple times.   What I keep saying is the whole thread of communication about the song was not clear.  For fuck sake.

99.99% of the internet understood the point you were making. 

HughFreakingDillon

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

FR181798 said:

PB11041 said:

Why does everyone think can't Deny me, not seeing that happening

We were definitely told that this was the Fanclub single and also the first single from the forthcoming album. I have the email. It seemed to some a little lazy as usually the 
singles are tracks exclusive to the fanclub release.

Yup, I have the email as well. Sent on March 10, 2018. Clearly says Can't Deny Me is the 2017 fanclub single. Now they could have screwed up (wouldn't be too surprising), and changed it later, but that's what the email says.

There is nothing clear about that email, the one that followed three days later, or what is currently archived for March 10, 2018 newsletter on the website.   

I showed the screen shots in the other thread yesterday, it is a mess of information.  

I still have no idea what point you're trying to argue. Everything is clear in that email. It is clearly stated that it is the 2017 single. Why are you arguing about that? The email may have been sent prematurely, they may have changed their minds after the fact about it being the 2017 single, etc... But you keep saying the original email isn't clear. Absent the followup emails and archiving, would you still claim it wasn't clear? It was only after the original (and clearly worded) email was delivered and other emails and discussion occurred that things became confusing.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.  I am not arguing anything I am stating their string of communication about Can't Deny Me was confusing because it changed multiple times.   What I keep saying is the whole thread of communication about the song was not clear.  For fuck sake.

99.99% of the internet understood the point you were making. 

See above. 

HughFreakingDillon

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

Yeah, okay I worded the original sentence poorly, but I don't think is all that hard to see that I was talking about the whole set of communication about the song.   I freaking posted the pictures on a different thread, I would not have done that suggesting that email 1 didn't say x, it was about the whole thing, but anyway, understood it could have been clearer on my part. 

apparently it was for at least two of us who are fairly intelligent adults. 

on2legs

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

Yeah, okay I worded the original sentence poorly, but I don't think is all that hard to see that I was talking about the whole set of communication about the song.   I freaking posted the pictures on a different thread, I would not have done that suggesting that email 1 didn't say x, it was about the whole thing, but anyway, understood it could have been clearer on my part. 

99.99% of the internet understood your point. 

HughFreakingDillon

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

Yeah, okay I worded the original sentence poorly, but I don't think is all that hard to see that I was talking about the whole set of communication about the song.   I freaking posted the pictures on a different thread, I would not have done that suggesting that email 1 didn't say x, it was about the whole thing, but anyway, understood it could have been clearer on my part. 

99.99% of the internet understood your point. 

interesting how we all understood 10C from the very beginning, yet he didn't, and when he unsuccessfully tried to explain the mess in his own head, and then lashed out because of it, somehow jeff and I are the .01% of idiots? 

that's an interesting conclusion to come to. 

jeffbr

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

FR181798 said:

PB11041 said:

Why does everyone think can't Deny me, not seeing that happening

We were definitely told that this was the Fanclub single and also the first single from the forthcoming album. I have the email. It seemed to some a little lazy as usually the 
singles are tracks exclusive to the fanclub release.

Yup, I have the email as well. Sent on March 10, 2018. Clearly says Can't Deny Me is the 2017 fanclub single. Now they could have screwed up (wouldn't be too surprising), and changed it later, but that's what the email says.

There is nothing clear about that email, the one that followed three days later, or what is currently archived for March 10, 2018 newsletter on the website.   

I showed the screen shots in the other thread yesterday, it is a mess of information.  

I still have no idea what point you're trying to argue. Everything is clear in that email. It is clearly stated that it is the 2017 single. Why are you arguing about that? The email may have been sent prematurely, they may have changed their minds after the fact about it being the 2017 single, etc... But you keep saying the original email isn't clear. Absent the followup emails and archiving, would you still claim it wasn't clear? It was only after the original (and clearly worded) email was delivered and other emails and discussion occurred that things became confusing.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.  I am not arguing anything I am stating their string of communication about Can't Deny Me was confusing because it changed multiple times.   What I keep saying is the whole thread of communication about the song was not clear.  For fuck sake.

99.99% of the internet understood the point you were making. 

Source?

PB11041

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

Yeah, okay I worded the original sentence poorly, but I don't think is all that hard to see that I was talking about the whole set of communication about the song.   I freaking posted the pictures on a different thread, I would not have done that suggesting that email 1 didn't say x, it was about the whole thing, but anyway, understood it could have been clearer on my part. 

99.99% of the internet understood your point. 

interesting how we all understood 10C from the very beginning, yet he didn't, and when he unsuccessfully tried to explain the mess in his own head, and then lashed out because of it, somehow jeff and I are the .01% of idiots? 

that's an interesting conclusion to come to. 

In the beginning, 3.10.18 there was an email.  Three days later, 3.13.18, a new email changed the meaning of the first email.  Some days subsequent to that the archived 3.10.18 email's content changed and the archived version of the 3.13.18 email was just deleted entirely.   

The communication about the single named Can't Deny Me was confusing and lacking clarity.  One day it was one thing, then it was another, then it was neither and something was gone.  

Hopefully that is acceptably more clear.

on2legs

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

Yeah, okay I worded the original sentence poorly, but I don't think is all that hard to see that I was talking about the whole set of communication about the song.   I freaking posted the pictures on a different thread, I would not have done that suggesting that email 1 didn't say x, it was about the whole thing, but anyway, understood it could have been clearer on my part. 

99.99% of the internet understood your point. 

interesting how we all understood 10C from the very beginning, yet he didn't, and when he unsuccessfully tried to explain the mess in his own head, and then lashed out because of it, somehow jeff and I are the .01% of idiots? 

that's an interesting conclusion to come to. 

I never even responded to anything you posted, Bro.  I posted a response to the other dude that I thought his posts were clear.  Take a deep breath.  

HughFreakingDillon

jeffbr said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

PB11041 said:

jeffbr said:

FR181798 said:

PB11041 said:

Why does everyone think can't Deny me, not seeing that happening

We were definitely told that this was the Fanclub single and also the first single from the forthcoming album. I have the email. It seemed to some a little lazy as usually the 
singles are tracks exclusive to the fanclub release.

Yup, I have the email as well. Sent on March 10, 2018. Clearly says Can't Deny Me is the 2017 fanclub single. Now they could have screwed up (wouldn't be too surprising), and changed it later, but that's what the email says.

There is nothing clear about that email, the one that followed three days later, or what is currently archived for March 10, 2018 newsletter on the website.   

I showed the screen shots in the other thread yesterday, it is a mess of information.  

I still have no idea what point you're trying to argue. Everything is clear in that email. It is clearly stated that it is the 2017 single. Why are you arguing about that? The email may have been sent prematurely, they may have changed their minds after the fact about it being the 2017 single, etc... But you keep saying the original email isn't clear. Absent the followup emails and archiving, would you still claim it wasn't clear? It was only after the original (and clearly worded) email was delivered and other emails and discussion occurred that things became confusing.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.  I am not arguing anything I am stating their string of communication about Can't Deny Me was confusing because it changed multiple times.   What I keep saying is the whole thread of communication about the song was not clear.  For fuck sake.

99.99% of the internet understood the point you were making. 

Source?

funny, that was going to my first reply. LOL

HughFreakingDillon

on2legs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

Yeah, okay I worded the original sentence poorly, but I don't think is all that hard to see that I was talking about the whole set of communication about the song.   I freaking posted the pictures on a different thread, I would not have done that suggesting that email 1 didn't say x, it was about the whole thing, but anyway, understood it could have been clearer on my part. 

99.99% of the internet understood your point. 

interesting how we all understood 10C from the very beginning, yet he didn't, and when he unsuccessfully tried to explain the mess in his own head, and then lashed out because of it, somehow jeff and I are the .01% of idiots? 

that's an interesting conclusion to come to. 

I never even responded to anything you posted, Bro.  I posted a response to the other dude that I thought his posts were clear.  Take a deep breath.  

99.99 % of the internet probably understands that my post did not require additional breathing. 

HughFreakingDillon

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

you said "there is nothing clear about that email" when directly referencing the initial email about the song. if that's not what you meant, that's on you, not us. 

Yeah, okay I worded the original sentence poorly, but I don't think is all that hard to see that I was talking about the whole set of communication about the song.   I freaking posted the pictures on a different thread, I would not have done that suggesting that email 1 didn't say x, it was about the whole thing, but anyway, understood it could have been clearer on my part. 

99.99% of the internet understood your point. 

interesting how we all understood 10C from the very beginning, yet he didn't, and when he unsuccessfully tried to explain the mess in his own head, and then lashed out because of it, somehow jeff and I are the .01% of idiots? 

that's an interesting conclusion to come to. 

In the beginning, 3.10.18 there was an email.  Three days later, 3.13.18, a new email changed the meaning of the first email.  Some days subsequent to that the archived 3.10.18 email's content changed and the archived version of the 3.13.18 email was just deleted entirely.   

The communication about the single named Can't Deny Me was confusing and lacking clarity.  One day it was one thing, then it was another, then it was neither and something was gone.  

Hopefully that is acceptably more clear.

yeah, what you meant was clear after your "JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!" post.

on2legs

I really hope we get some stellar stuff on the singles.  That would be exciting. 

PSUS2H

Maybe the band can just record themselves reciting this thread and throw it on the last two singles.  That'd be a thrill to listen back to. 

Jammalambo

Really, all I have to say about CDM is that I hope, I mean, I seriously hope, it won't end up on the new album. Can't believe some people on here apparently would be glad about it. A (not that great) song we already heard a year and a half ago, really? It wouldn't be too out of place on the 2017 TC single (apparently that was the original plan), but it'd surely be a waste of space on the album. We already have it in FLAC. That's enough for an average song like that.

pjl44

Can't Deny Me plays MUCH better live. That is all.

on2legs

I’m middle of the road on CDM.  Don’t love it and don’t hate it either.  But I’d prefer it not be on the album because it would lend a sort of staleness to what should be a brand new, fresh album.  For me it more of a perception thing than an actual issue with the song. 

HughFreakingDillon

on2legs said:

I’m middle of the road on CDM.  Don’t love it and don’t hate it either.  But I’d prefer it not be on the album because it would lend a sort of staleness to what should be a brand new, fresh album.  For me it more of a perception thing than an actual issue with the song. 

agreed

Ledbetterman10

pjl44 said:

Can't Deny Me plays MUCH better live. That is all.

Agreed. The studio version sounds like a rough mix. Surprised they even put it out like that. 

hrd2imgn

it won't/it does not matter, because no matter what it is, it will be complained about as being _____________ or too_____________ or not___________enough, or should have benn___________

just be glad we finally are getting them one last time

that all being said I have heard the RRHOF stuff a lot on PJ radio, makes me suspicious

cp3iverson

CDM is okay.  Not groundbreaking or anything they haven't done before but thats alright.  For the sake of getting new songs and my imaginary perfect album i hope its not on there.  I want eleven songs that blow my mind. 

PB11041

hrd2imgn said:

it won't/it does not matter, because no matter what it is, it will be complained about as being _____________ or too_____________ or not___________enough, or should have benn___________

just be glad we finally are getting them one last time

that all being said I have heard the RRHOF stuff a lot on PJ radio, makes me suspicious

HughFreakingDillon

of course it's true. we're pearl jam fanatics. we'll be elated and pissed off and happy and angry about it all at the same time, likely about the same things! 

HughFreakingDillon

I'm hoping for the PJ version of Jeff's The Forest. after listening, I think it would have been a good fit on Backspacer. 

raindog80

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'm hoping for the PJ version of Jeff's The Forest. after listening, I think it would have been a good fit on Backspacer. 

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