just re-listened to "Around the Bend"

spilled_my_tincture

I actually like it a lot more than I remembered liking it. Well, some songs grow on you, what can I say. "Around the Bend" is a damn good song.

HFL

spilled_my_tincture wrote:

I actually like it a lot more than I remembered liking it. Well, some songs grow on you, what can I say. "Around the Bend" is a damn good song.

I was just thinking the same thing and i saw this post!! Unbelivable!

I just finished listening to No Code again! The first time i listened to it was like one week after it came out! I was kind of disapointed...because i loved the three first albuns so much! But it started growing on me and now (for a few years now) its one of my favourites...Actually the first four are my favourites!

With Yield happened the opposite...i liked it very much when it came out and now i don´t like! Its too happy or something...

Something happened after No Code...something was lost...i don´t know ...

spilled_my_tincture

I think it was after yield that something was lost. energy I guess. eddie just sounds tired on binaural and riot act.

Yeah No Code is my third/fourth (depending on the day) favorite album of PJ's.

Cropduster84

HFL wrote:

Something happened after No Code...something was lost...i don´t know ...

Its funny when I hear comments like that.

I always think No Code was when things started to get interesting...

Their music's evolved so much.

tonepoet77

Yep, I'm with ya, No Code is where I think they started really firing on all cylinders, and it's gotten interesting and more original since then.

lovin kind

that storm effect in that song is awesome so atmosperically special

Cropduster84

tonepoet77 wrote:

Yep, I'm with ya, No Code is where I think they started really firing on all cylinders, and it's gotten interesting and more original since then.

Exactly.

Its arguable that the first 3 albums have the biggest chorus' and riffs, but the to me the first 3 are also the most formulaic and least interesting.

The introduction of Jack Irons and the changes that occured during No Code were huge steps forward for the band, they evolved,.

spilled_my_tincture

I like their first five albums easily best. I think on Binaural and Riot Act, they just sound bored as all hell on a lot of the tracks.

Memoman

Cropduster84 wrote:

Exactly.

Its arguable that the first 3 albums have the biggest chorus' and riffs, but the to me the first 3 are also the most formulaic and least interesting.

The introduction of Jack Irons and the changes that occured during No Code were huge steps forward for the band, they evolved,.

I feel Binaural and Riot Act more solid, yet original and experimental.
The writing is way better now, much more poetic and artistic, to me of course. It feels like they've grown with me, like I can dialogue with their later songs far more smoothly than with the older stuff, which rocks, just that on a bubble, as opposed to 'with me'.

DISCLAIMER: I hope I'm making clear that this is my very personal take on this, furthermore I'm only 100% sure that it only applies 100% to me. I'm not pretending to be proclaming the 'one absolute truth' with this.

grooveamatic

ATB on Benaroya!!!! Woo-hoo!!!

Pearl Jam and toast

Cropduster84 wrote:

Its funny when I hear comments like that.

I always think No Code was when things started to get interesting...

Their music's evolved so much.

vitalogy is where things got interesting... no code is where they got really good at being interesting.

always loved that song.

Pearl Jam and toast

vitalogy was the end of their mandering to mtv and the popular crowd.

they were able to more-so focus on music that the really tight fans were going to appreciate... able to expand and evolve.

a band is never truely great until they do this... make some people uncomfortable and challenge them to the point of maybe not liking what they produce to absolutley floor the others.

for example..

spilled my tincture feels binaural and riot act are tiring ... hes not nearly as comfortable with them as the rest of the albums.. but for those who 'get it' binaural and riot act are (so far) the high points of their careers.

get it?

spilled_my_tincture

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

vitalogy was the end of their mandering to mtv and the popular crowd.

they were able to more-so focus on music that the really tight fans were going to appreciate... able to expand and evolve.

a band is never truely great until they do this... make some people uncomfortable and challenge them to the point of maybe not liking what they produce to absolutley floor the others.

for example..

spilled my tincture feels binaural and riot act are tiring ... hes not nearly as comfortable with them as the rest of the albums.. but for those who 'get it' binaural and riot act are (so far) the high points of their careers.

get it?

No, I just like vitalogy and versus better. I'm sorry to shock you but some people have different opinions than you and actually think that riot act and binaural were just kinda boring. I hope you can accept this without having a stroke or something.

they sorta quit selling out to the mtv crowd after ten. sorry, not releasing any singles off versus, putting the title on the side of the disc only, putting experimental songs like rats, blood, and indifference on there certainly gave me the impression they weren't selling out to mtv. oh and the fact that they stopped making music videos when versus came out.

Cropduster84

spilled_my_tincture wrote:

No, I just like vitalogy and versus better. I'm sorry to shock you but some people have different opinions than you and actually think that riot act and binaural were just kinda boring.

Fair enough.

However, it would probablly be fairer to say that you just prefer that side of the band.

They've moved on light years away from the Vitalogy days.

I fully accept your preferences, but maybe it fair to say you're a fan of who Pearl Jam WERE, not who they are today or have been for the past 7 years.

spilled_my_tincture

Cropduster84 wrote:

Fair enough.

However, it would probablly be fairer to say that you just prefer that side of the band.

They've moved on light years away from the Vitalogy days.

I fully accept your preferences, but maybe it fair to say you're a fan of who Pearl Jam WERE, not who they are today or have been for the past 7 years.

I wouldn't say they sounded like they did on binaural on yield. yield I enjoyed way more than binaural. sounded better to me.

Cropduster84

spilled_my_tincture wrote:

I wouldn't say they sounded like they did on binaural on yield. yield I enjoyed way more than binaural. sounded better to me.

Thats my point, exactly, they've continually moved forward, the dynamics changed with the addition of Matt and Boom.

But they arn't really the same band who wrote Ten, Vs and Vitalogy. Thats who they were over ten years ago.

spilled_my_tincture

Cropduster84 wrote:

Thats my point, exactly, they've continually moved forward, the dynamics changed with the addition of Matt and Boom.

But they arn't really the same band who wrote Ten, Vs and Vitalogy. Thats who they were over ten years ago.

I understand what you are saying but you guys are suggesting that I don't like pearl jam. I do. I like binaural and riot act, just not nearly as much as their older stuff.