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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    Lerxst1992 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Why do people think that anything that gets released will be untampered with? Like, say a list was released, and Trump isn't on it... that would mean nothing. I don't really get it  i feel like there is already enough evidence to be sure Trump was fuxkibg around in Epstein world, and no hard evidence coming from any level of government is going to prove anything. 


    Sure there is probably evidence..but why didn’t the Dems do anything for four years, ESPECIALLY after trump won in nov. even before? they had the goods on trump with him ahead in the polls and did…nothing. Tell me this makes any sense.

    also…what are Dems going to do now, impeach him again after they win the midterms? This is literally the path way to irrelevance in American politics, unfortunately.
    there are likely dem names in those files too, so the dems probably thought it better to protect their people and just deal with trump. trump turned up the heat to the point where the people want the names, and now he backpedaled. dems should have released them when they had a chance. the entire world should have known that a man that has lied 50,000 times was never going to release them, especially when he knows he is all over that case.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    Lerxst1992 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Why do people think that anything that gets released will be untampered with? Like, say a list was released, and Trump isn't on it... that would mean nothing. I don't really get it  i feel like there is already enough evidence to be sure Trump was fuxkibg around in Epstein world, and no hard evidence coming from any level of government is going to prove anything. 


    Sure there is probably evidence..but why didn’t the Dems do anything for four years, ESPECIALLY after trump won in nov. even before? they had the goods on trump with him ahead in the polls and did…nothing. Tell me this makes any sense.

    also…what are Dems going to do now, impeach him again after they win the midterms? This is literally the path way to irrelevance in American politics, unfortunately.
    What did you want the dems to do? The only reason this is news is because the magats made it that way by promising to release "the list."

    We have already seen the flight logs. Trump is on it, Clinton and several others are on it. What does that prove? 

    That list proves nothing. There was testimony related to Trump's involvement with at least one young girl. There likely isn't a piece of paper from Epstein that describes that.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,196
    i fucking hate our two party system and how all either side wants to do is protect their own people. justice is not selective. and if it were it would be called something other than justice.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i guess maxwell is going to get pardoned. who will she throw under the bus and put in place of trump?
    Seems pretty obvious who they WANT to throw under the bus [the black guy, of course]... might have to settle for Clinton though. 

    https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2025/07/23/amid-epstein-questions-trump-accuses-obama-of-treason-declares-its-time-to-go-after-people/
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,452
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i guess maxwell is going to get pardoned. who will she throw under the bus and put in place of trump?
    In no particular order...

    Hunter Biden
    Hillary Clinton
    Michelle Obama
    President Barack Obama 
    President Joe Biden 
    Nancy Pelosi
    Schumer
    AOC


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,366
    Bentleyspop said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i guess maxwell is going to get pardoned. who will she throw under the bus and put in place of trump?
    In no particular order...

    Hunter Biden
    Hillary Clinton
    Michelle Obama
    President Barack Obama 
    President Joe Biden 
    Nancy Pelosi
    Schumer
    AOC


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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    Bentleyspop said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i guess maxwell is going to get pardoned. who will she throw under the bus and put in place of trump?
    In no particular order...

    Hunter Biden
    Hillary Clinton
    Michelle Obama
    President Barack Obama 
    President Joe Biden 
    Nancy Pelosi
    Schumer
    AOC


    So Maxwell is going to point the finger at AOC, Michelle Obama, Hillary and Pelosi as being part of this?

    lol, ok...

    Can you explain as to why or how? I'm really curious.
  • mickeyrat
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    Gern Blansten said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Why do people think that anything that gets released will be untampered with? Like, say a list was released, and Trump isn't on it... that would mean nothing. I don't really get it  i feel like there is already enough evidence to be sure Trump was fuxkibg around in Epstein world, and no hard evidence coming from any level of government is going to prove anything. 


    Sure there is probably evidence..but why didn’t the Dems do anything for four years, ESPECIALLY after trump won in nov. even before? they had the goods on trump with him ahead in the polls and did…nothing. Tell me this makes any sense.

    also…what are Dems going to do now, impeach him again after they win the midterms? This is literally the path way to irrelevance in American politics, unfortunately.
    What did you want the dems to do? The only reason this is news is because the magats made it that way by promising to release "the list."

    We have already seen the flight logs. Trump is on it, Clinton and several others are on it. What does that prove? 

    That list proves nothing. There was testimony related to Trump's involvement with at least one young girl. There likely isn't a piece of paper from Epstein that describes that.
    Yes this. I think this really a nothing but as usual Trump saw it as an advantage so he leveraged it, but now he has to deal with the consequences. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,883
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i guess maxwell is going to get pardoned. who will she throw under the bus and put in place of trump?
    In no particular order...

    Hunter Biden
    Hillary Clinton
    Michelle Obama
    President Barack Obama 
    President Joe Biden 
    Nancy Pelosi
    Schumer
    AOC


    So Maxwell is going to point the finger at AOC, Michelle Obama, Hillary and Pelosi as being part of this?

    lol, ok...

    Can you explain as to why or how? I'm really curious.
    It’s obviously sarcasm since Trump and the right wing currently blames everything on them. 
  • hunterh75
    hunterh75 Posts: 128
    Merkin Baller said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i guess maxwell is going to get pardoned. who will she throw under the bus and put in place of trump?
    Seems pretty obvious who they WANT to throw under the bus [the black guy, of course]... might have to settle for Clinton though. 

    https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2025/07/23/amid-epstein-questions-trump-accuses-obama-of-treason-declares-its-time-to-go-after-people/
    Half white?
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,812
    hunterh75 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i guess maxwell is going to get pardoned. who will she throw under the bus and put in place of trump?
    Seems pretty obvious who they WANT to throw under the bus [the black guy, of course]... might have to settle for Clinton though. 

    https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2025/07/23/amid-epstein-questions-trump-accuses-obama-of-treason-declares-its-time-to-go-after-people/
    Half white?

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,663
    Lerxst1992 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Why do people think that anything that gets released will be untampered with? Like, say a list was released, and Trump isn't on it... that would mean nothing. I don't really get it  i feel like there is already enough evidence to be sure Trump was fuxkibg around in Epstein world, and no hard evidence coming from any level of government is going to prove anything. 


    Sure there is probably evidence..but why didn’t the Dems do anything for four years, ESPECIALLY after trump won in nov. even before? they had the goods on trump with him ahead in the polls and did…nothing. Tell me this makes any sense.

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,663
    Lerxst1992 said:

    also…what are Dems going to do now, impeach him again after they win the midterms? This is literally the path way to irrelevance in American politics, unfortunately.
    So whats the path to relevance?

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Why do people think that anything that gets released will be untampered with? Like, say a list was released, and Trump isn't on it... that would mean nothing. I don't really get it  i feel like there is already enough evidence to be sure Trump was fuxkibg around in Epstein world, and no hard evidence coming from any level of government is going to prove anything. 


    Sure there is probably evidence..but why didn’t the Dems do anything for four years, ESPECIALLY after trump won in nov. even before? they had the goods on trump with him ahead in the polls and did…nothing. Tell me this makes any sense.

    also…what are Dems going to do now, impeach him again after they win the midterms? This is literally the path way to irrelevance in American politics, unfortunately.
    there are likely dem names in those files too, so the dems probably thought it better to protect their people and just deal with trump. trump turned up the heat to the point where the people want the names, and now he backpedaled. dems should have released them when they had a chance. the entire world should have known that a man that has lied 50,000 times was never going to release them, especially when he knows he is all over that case.

    For sure. I mean, Bill Clinton being in the files is definitely easy to imagine, for example, and I'm sure many others. So that fully explains why the Dems did nothing. It's not very surprising that all the Repubs and Trump in particular being in the files never occurred to the MAGATS who wanted things exposed to badly. 
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,939
    Tim Simmons said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Why do people think that anything that gets released will be untampered with? Like, say a list was released, and Trump isn't on it... that would mean nothing. I don't really get it  i feel like there is already enough evidence to be sure Trump was fuxkibg around in Epstein world, and no hard evidence coming from any level of government is going to prove anything. 


    Sure there is probably evidence..but why didn’t the Dems do anything for four years, ESPECIALLY after trump won in nov. even before? they had the goods on trump with him ahead in the polls and did…nothing. Tell me this makes any sense.

    Norms. But also Dems


    So reading many of the answers, the Dems chose to protect Clinton at a cost of allowing trump to win the White House?


    what other dem would they protect? Obama? No chance he is in there, and Schumer neither? 

    These explanations are not making any sense, if you have a chance to take down trump, they should have done so. Seems like there’s no there there.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Nobody has any idea if they were protecting Clinton, lol. It's all just speculation dude. It's possible. So are a lot of other things. 
    No chance in hell Obama would be implicated. He just isn't that kind of person. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    I don't think there was any protection of anyone by dems. If they didn't protect Al Franken they won't protect Clinton.

    Lots of people are on those flight logs. Clinton had already been named in some court filings so nothing new there.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,250
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67865190

    Again....this shit is blowing up because of magats. Dems are just pushing it because trump wants it to go away now. He was best buds with Epstein and he wants us all to forget it.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    Gern Blansten said:
    I don't think there was any protection of anyone by dems. If they didn't protect Al Franken they won't protect Clinton.

    Lots of people are on those flight logs. Clinton had already been named in some court filings so nothing new there.

    I think it's been accepted that simply being on flight logs isn't any kind of smoking gun, no? 
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