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A Handmaid's Tale is real

I am a patriotI am a patriot Posts: 452
edited July 2019 in A Moving Train
What's next? Stoning? Come on Alabama. Get your shit together.

https://www.al.com/news/birmingham/2019/06/woman-indicted-in-shooting-death-of-her-unborn-child-charges-against-shooter-dismissed.html?outputType=amp

Edit: DA will not pursue.

https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-da-decide-fetal-manslaughter-153744867.html
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    What am I missing here? How could this be possible?
  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    Jesus Christ.  That is some backward ass fucking shit right there.  Racist, sexist ass police department and politicians.
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    I guess I shouldn't be surprised, coming from a state where you get a flag, some guns, and a bible when you buy a used truck and where people think that is "awesome."
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 Posts: 37,446
    What the fuck?!???
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    "Swing low, Alabama"
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    It’s gone well beyond discouraging and disappointing and is into the territory of horrifying and disturbing. You would think that Alabama had nowhere to go but up, but apparently that’s not the case. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Add “have an argument” to the list of things pregnant women are no longer allowed to do.

    Nah, it’s not about control at all.  
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  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    oftenreading said:
    Add “have an argument” to the list of things pregnant women are no longer allowed to do.

    Nah, it’s not about control at all.  
    Of course not.  I can't imagine anyone thinking otherwise.

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Yup, this story is sickening, and a major red flag. I mean, another major red flag. I wonder how many of those are needed before Americans truly start resisting?
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,017
    Just wait until Roy Moore gets elected to the senate.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Part of me wants to say that Alabama doesn't represent the rest of us.
    That part of me is small and drowned out by the part that says, "Alabama represents us perfectly" 
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,265
    Keep in mind how many people love this shitheel that represents us now.  :(

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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    So what is the state’s argument?  That she caused the death of someone due to negligence, or as the result of another crime being committed by her?  I’m assuming that the shooting was determined to be self defense?  
    Also weird to me is that if someone shoots at someone in self defense and hits a bystander, the shooter is usually still liable for the death of the bystander.  I cannot keep up with Alabama...
  • I am a patriotI am a patriot Posts: 452
    Brought this up at work (in GA). 6 ladies and 2 men believed the expectant mother should not go without punishment. Found that odd.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    No prosecution for Alabama woman who was shot, lost fetus
    https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-da-decide-fetal-manslaughter-153744867.html
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Bentleyspop said:
    No prosecution for Alabama woman who was shot, lost fetus
    https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-da-decide-fetal-manslaughter-153744867.html
    Thank goodness. Just the fact that anyone fucking thought of it is scandalous and dangerous sign of things to come.
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Bentleyspop said:
    No prosecution for Alabama woman who was shot, lost fetus
    https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-da-decide-fetal-manslaughter-153744867.html
    Some sanity restored.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,144
    PJ_Soul said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    No prosecution for Alabama woman who was shot, lost fetus
    https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-da-decide-fetal-manslaughter-153744867.html
    Thank goodness. Just the fact that anyone fucking thought of it is scandalous and dangerous sign of things to come.
    This is why I think it's important to draw a legal distinction at what point in a pregnancy you're carrying a 'human', and to follow in Illinois' footsteps and declare that fetuses, fertilized eggs, embryos have no legal rights. 
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  • I am a patriotI am a patriot Posts: 452
    Bentleyspop said:
    No prosecution for Alabama woman who was shot, lost fetus
    https://news.yahoo.com/alabama-da-decide-fetal-manslaughter-153744867.html
    Thank goodness someone has sense.

    Still wonder about that gramd jury though.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    PJPOWER said:
    So what is the state’s argument?  That she caused the death of someone due to negligence, or as the result of another crime being committed by her?  I’m assuming that the shooting was determined to be self defense?  
    Also weird to me is that if someone shoots at someone in self defense and hits a bystander, the shooter is usually still liable for the death of the bystander.  I cannot keep up with Alabama...
    I’ve always believed the opposite. The person committing the crime is responsible for any deaths that occur, even if they didn’t have a gun. Assuming self defense in lethal force was justified.
  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2019
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    So what is the state’s argument?  That she caused the death of someone due to negligence, or as the result of another crime being committed by her?  I’m assuming that the shooting was determined to be self defense?  
    Also weird to me is that if someone shoots at someone in self defense and hits a bystander, the shooter is usually still liable for the death of the bystander.  I cannot keep up with Alabama...
    I’ve always believed the opposite. The person committing the crime is responsible for any deaths that occur, even if they didn’t have a gun. Assuming self defense in lethal force was justified.
    Was taught at CHL class that the shooter is always responsible for the bullet that leaves their gun.  That is why it is important to be aware of what is behind your target and to be sure of your aim.  I’m sure the person committing the initial crime would maintain a level liability as well, but I’m not sure to what degree if an innocent bystander is hurt.  
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