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1998 Tour Appreciation

coach pjcoach pj Posts: 215
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I have been listening and watching a lot of the '98 shows. I cannot get enough of them. The set lists are unreal. Long shows, not marathons, totally awesome from start to finish. I re-watched the shows I went to from that year and am amazed. If anyone has some time watch the Sacramento show please spend the time, it is totally worth it. Incredible set list and overall playing by the band. Does anyone have access to the audio from that show? I would love to be able to listen to it more.

Thanks everyone, have a great day.

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    rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,353
    All killer, no filler when you're just playing songs from the first five albums!
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    Best tour ever!!! Saw them 8 times in ‘98.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    Best tour
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,434
    I only saw them 3 times in 1998 but all of them were great.  I’d be cool with them cutting back their current shows to around two hours like in 1998 if it meant we got a proper tour with a bunch of cities.  Not every show needs to be 3+ hour.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    -songs played at their proper speeds
    -not one bad setlist

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    BH87446BH87446 Posts: 113
    +1 on the Sacramento show being absolutely fantastic! I wish they were able to release that one and the rest of the ‘98 shows as official bootlegs!
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    wecrazybobwecrazybob Posts: 1,027
    I hope we see more and more of these shows released on official bootleg.
    Toledo, Oh 09-22-96, Chicago, Illinois 06-29-98, Portland, Oregon 07-18-98, Vancouver, British Columbia 07-19-98, Seattle 07-21-98, Seattle 07-22-98, Noblesville, Indiana 08-17-98, East Lansing, Michigan 08-18-98, Barrie, Ontario 08-22-98, Auburn Hills, Michigan 08-23-98, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 08-25-98, Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio 08-26-98, Camden, Camden, New Jersey 08-28-98 Camden, New Jersey 08-29-98,Knoxville, Tennessee 09-06-98, Columbia, Maryland 09-18-98,Mountain View, California 10-30-99,Mountain View, California 10-31-99, Virginia Beach, Virginia 08-03-00,Charlotte, North Carolina 08-04-00,Greensboro, North Carolina 08-06-00, Atlanta, Georgia 08-07-00,West Palm Beach, Florida 08-09-00,West Palm Beach, Florida 08-10-00,Tampa, Florida 08-12-00,New Orleans, Louisiana 08-14-00,Memphis, Tennessee 08-15-00,Nashville, Tennessee 08-17-00, Noblesville, Indiana 08-18-00,Cincinnati, Ohio 08-20-00,Columbus, Ohio 08-21-00, Wantagh, New York 08-23-00, Wantagh, New York 08-24-00,Wantagh, New York 08-25-00, Saratoga Springs, New York 08-27-00,Mansfield, Massachusetts 08-29-00,Mansfield, Massachusetts 08-30-00,Camden, New Jersey 09-01-00,Camden, New Jersey 09-02-00,Columbia, Maryland 09-04-00,Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 09-05-00,Auburn Hills, Michigan 10-07-00, East Troy, Wisconsin 10-08-00,Chicago, Illinois 10-09-00,Cleveland, Ohio 04-25-03,Columbus, Ohio 06-24-03,Kitchener, ON 09-11-05, London, ON 9-12-05,Hamilton, ON 9-13-05,Cincinnati, Ohio 06-24-06, Chicago, Illinois 7-19-13, Cincinnati, Ohio 10-01-14, St. Louis, Missouri 10-03-14, Memphis, Tennessee 10-14-14,Detroit, Michigan 10-16-14, Moline, Illinois 10-17-14, Columbia SC 4-21-16 , Lexington KY 4-26-16, Philadelphia PA 4-28-16, Philadelphia PA 4-29-16, Boston 8-5-16 , Boston 8-7-16 Chicago 8-20-16, Chicago 8-22-16, Seattle 8-8-18, Seattle 8-10-18, Missoula 8-13-18, Chicago 8-18-18, Chicago 8-20-18, Boston 9-2-18, Boston 9-4-18
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    cp3iverson said:
    -songs played at their proper speeds
    -not one bad setlist

    100% agree.  There were no bad shows in 98. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    my_wavemy_wave clearwater, FL Posts: 337
    edited May 2019
    live on 2 legs was all from those 98 shows, just sitting in the vault somewhere waiting to be released... well aside from the 2 98 shows released as vault releases...

    also the debut of the mirror ball dropping down during wishlist... west palm beach with a hurricane on the way, the guys played ping pong to the star wars theme, and i was so stoned...
    Post edited by my_wave on
    st. pete '94
    west palm beach '98
    tampa '00
    tampa '03
    tampa '08
    brooklyn '13
    austin '14
    austin '14
    tampa '16

    ed - clearwater '12
    ed - clearwater '12
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    rival9500rival9500 Posts: 540
    Pittsburgh 8/25/98 was my first PJ show.  The Yield album and seeing them for the first time saved my life.  I was in a really dark fucking place at the time and that album and that 1st of 31 PJ shows pulled me out of it.  I listen to that bootleg often.  Getting to play that for my son is an amazing feeling.
    1998: Pitt
    2000: Pitt
    2003: Pitt, State College, Columbus,DC, Hershey
    2004: Reading, Toledo, DC
    2005: Pitt
    2006: Cleve, Camden 1+2, DC, Pitt, Cinci
    2008: Camden 1+2, DC
    2009: Philly 3
    2010: Columbus
    2012: Philly
    2013: Pitt, NYC 1+2
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    Height of their powers!!!!
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    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,767
    Eh.  There are very good shows.  There are meh shows.  And there are definitely a couple of train-wrecks.   It definitely is more pleasant to hear some of the songs that need a proper pacing be at or closer to that pacing.  Given to Fly most significantly.

    Would definitely welcome more vaults from this tour, specifically 

    7.16
    7.18
    8.26
    8.28
    9.3
    9.8
    9.11
    9.16
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    Train wrecks?!?!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    Train wrecks?!?!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,640
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
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    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,767
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    His eminence has yet to show. 
    http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,434
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


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    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,767
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    I was there both nights as well.  Night 2 was exceptional.  Night 1 was utterly forgettable.  
    His eminence has yet to show. 
    http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
    http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652

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    RS65573RS65573 Posts: 2,373
    PB11041 said:
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    I was there both nights as well.  Night 2 was exceptional.  Night 1 was utterly forgettable.  
    I was at both nights. PJ has never played a show bad enough to not be better than every other bands best show. I think your crazy.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,888
    PB11041 said:
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    I was there both nights as well.  Night 2 was exceptional.  Night 1 was utterly forgettable.  
    NIght 1 had a few mess-ups but there was no way it was forgettable.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,434
    PB11041 said:
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    I was there both nights as well.  Night 2 was exceptional.  Night 1 was utterly forgettable.  
     I recall there being some equipment issues for Mike and a couple other flubs.  Just curious... beyond that what caused you to dislike the show?
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


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    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,767
    RS65573 said:
    PB11041 said:
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    I was there both nights as well.  Night 2 was exceptional.  Night 1 was utterly forgettable.  
    I was at both nights. PJ has never played a show bad enough to not be better than every other bands best show. I think your crazy.
    Ok.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,767
    mcgruff10 said:
    PB11041 said:
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    I was there both nights as well.  Night 2 was exceptional.  Night 1 was utterly forgettable.  
    NIght 1 had a few mess-ups but there was no way it was forgettable.  
    It was. You play 900 odd shows, shit happens.  It doesn't make them any less awesome.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
    http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
    http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652

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    100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 8,525
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Don’t recall any problems at Barrie? 
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
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    PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,767
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    I was there both nights as well.  Night 2 was exceptional.  Night 1 was utterly forgettable.  
     I recall there being some equipment issues for Mike and a couple other flubs.  Just curious... beyond that what caused you to dislike the show?
    There were feedback issues for Stone throughout the end of the main set, the overall sound mix became problematic as the board engineers tried to compensate for the equipment problems on stage, including mic fails.  I enjoyed that they played Fuckin Up in response to close it out.  It was a pleasant nod to shit happens.   And the fringe benefit was that they tore the roof off the next night in response. 
    His eminence has yet to show. 
    http://www.hi5sports.org/ (Sports Program for Kids with Disabilities)
    http://www.livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=3652

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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,434
    PB11041 said:
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    on2legs said:
    PB11041 said:
    cp3iverson said:
    I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows.  Being honest.  Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great.  Vocals are great.  
    I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances.  That night was awful.  Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one.  It is like every other tour.  Some nights are hot, some nights are not.


    Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful.  I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.  
    I was there both nights as well.  Night 2 was exceptional.  Night 1 was utterly forgettable.  
     I recall there being some equipment issues for Mike and a couple other flubs.  Just curious... beyond that what caused you to dislike the show?
    There were feedback issues for Stone throughout the end of the main set, the overall sound mix became problematic as the board engineers tried to compensate for the equipment problems on stage, including mic fails.  I enjoyed that they played Fuckin Up in response to close it out.  It was a pleasant nod to shit happens.   And the fringe benefit was that they tore the roof off the next night in response. 
    Sometimes ignorance is bliss.  We had no idea the sound engineers were having trouble with the mix.  Sounded fine on the floor, but perceptions vary widely.  Thanks for giving an explanation. 
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


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