1998 Tour Appreciation

coach pj · May 2019

I have been listening and watching a lot of the '98 shows. I cannot get enough of them. The set lists are unreal. Long shows, not marathons, totally awesome from start to finish. I re-watched the shows I went to from that year and am amazed. If anyone has some time watch the Sacramento show please spend the time, it is totally worth it. Incredible set list and overall playing by the band. Does anyone have access to the audio from that show? I would love to be able to listen to it more.

Thanks everyone, have a great day.

rummy · May 2019

All killer, no filler when you're just playing songs from the first five albums!

mcgruff10 · May 2019

Best tour ever!!! Saw them 8 times in ‘98.

cp3iverson · May 2019

Best tour

on2legs · May 2019

I only saw them 3 times in 1998 but all of them were great. I’d be cool with them cutting back their current shows to around two hours like in 1998 if it meant we got a proper tour with a bunch of cities. Not every show needs to be 3+ hour.

cp3iverson · May 2019

-songs played at their proper speeds
-not one bad setlist

BH87446 · May 2019

+1 on the Sacramento show being absolutely fantastic! I wish they were able to release that one and the rest of the ‘98 shows as official bootlegs!

wecrazybob · May 2019

I hope we see more and more of these shows released on official bootleg.

mcgruff10 · May 2019

cp3iverson said:

-songs played at their proper speeds
-not one bad setlist

100% agree. There were no bad shows in 98.

my_wave · May 2019

live on 2 legs was all from those 98 shows, just sitting in the vault somewhere waiting to be released... well aside from the 2 98 shows released as vault releases...

also the debut of the mirror ball dropping down during wishlist... west palm beach with a hurricane on the way, the guys played ping pong to the star wars theme, and i was so stoned...

rival9500 · May 2019

Pittsburgh 8/25/98 was my first PJ show. The Yield album and seeing them for the first time saved my life. I was in a really dark fucking place at the time and that album and that 1st of 31 PJ shows pulled me out of it. I listen to that bootleg often. Getting to play that for my son is an amazing feeling.

buck502000 · May 2019

Height of their powers!!!!

PB11041 · May 2019

Eh. There are very good shows. There are meh shows. And there are definitely a couple of train-wrecks. It definitely is more pleasant to hear some of the songs that need a proper pacing be at or closer to that pacing. Given to Fly most significantly.

Would definitely welcome more vaults from this tour, specifically

7.16
7.18
8.26
8.28
9.3
9.8
9.11
9.16

mcgruff10 · May 2019

Train wrecks?!?!

mcgruff10 · May 2019

Train wrecks?!?!

cp3iverson · May 2019

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

PB11041 · May 2019

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

on2legs · May 2019

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

PB11041 · May 2019

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

I was there both nights as well. Night 2 was exceptional. Night 1 was utterly forgettable.

RS65573 · May 2019

PB11041 said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

I was there both nights as well. Night 2 was exceptional. Night 1 was utterly forgettable.

I was at both nights. PJ has never played a show bad enough to not be better than every other bands best show. I think your crazy.

mcgruff10 · May 2019

PB11041 said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

I was there both nights as well. Night 2 was exceptional. Night 1 was utterly forgettable.

NIght 1 had a few mess-ups but there was no way it was forgettable.

on2legs · May 2019

PB11041 said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

I was there both nights as well. Night 2 was exceptional. Night 1 was utterly forgettable.

I recall there being some equipment issues for Mike and a couple other flubs. Just curious... beyond that what caused you to dislike the show?

SmallestOceans · May 2019

-Matt Cameron’s black cut off tank tops

PB11041 · May 2019

RS65573 said:

PB11041 said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

I was there both nights as well. Night 2 was exceptional. Night 1 was utterly forgettable.

I was at both nights. PJ has never played a show bad enough to not be better than every other bands best show. I think your crazy.

Ok.

PB11041 · May 2019

mcgruff10 said:

PB11041 said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

I was there both nights as well. Night 2 was exceptional. Night 1 was utterly forgettable.

NIght 1 had a few mess-ups but there was no way it was forgettable.

It was. You play 900 odd shows, shit happens. It doesn't make them any less awesome.

100 Pacer · May 2019

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Don’t recall any problems at Barrie?

PB11041 · May 2019

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

I was there both nights as well. Night 2 was exceptional. Night 1 was utterly forgettable.

I recall there being some equipment issues for Mike and a couple other flubs. Just curious... beyond that what caused you to dislike the show?

There were feedback issues for Stone throughout the end of the main set, the overall sound mix became problematic as the board engineers tried to compensate for the equipment problems on stage, including mic fails. I enjoyed that they played Fuckin Up in response to close it out. It was a pleasant nod to shit happens. And the fringe benefit was that they tore the roof off the next night in response.

on2legs · May 2019

PB11041 said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

on2legs said:

PB11041 said:

cp3iverson said:

I’ll still take MSG Night 1 over a lot of current day shows. Being honest. Technical nightmare and they didnt live up to the moment but setlist is great. Vocals are great.

I don't go to shows for setlists, I go for performances. That night was awful. Barrie had problems, and several others on leg one. It is like every other tour. Some nights are hot, some nights are not.

Perceptions are funny. I’ve never walked out of a Pear Jam show thinking it was awful. I was there both nights at MSG in 1998 and left both shows with a huge smile.

I was there both nights as well. Night 2 was exceptional. Night 1 was utterly forgettable.

I recall there being some equipment issues for Mike and a couple other flubs. Just curious... beyond that what caused you to dislike the show?

There were feedback issues for Stone throughout the end of the main set, the overall sound mix became problematic as the board engineers tried to compensate for the equipment problems on stage, including mic fails. I enjoyed that they played Fuckin Up in response to close it out. It was a pleasant nod to shit happens. And the fringe benefit was that they tore the roof off the next night in response.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss. We had no idea the sound engineers were having trouble with the mix. Sounded fine on the floor, but perceptions vary widely. Thanks for giving an explanation.

1998 Tour Appreciation

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