Facebook Bans Alex Jones, Louis Farrakhan, Milo and others as Dangerous

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 18,066
    rgambs said:
    Slippery slope is a weak argument.
    Everything can be called a slippery slope and every slippery slope can be reversed.
    Slippery slope is never a reason not to act.
    Actually it is a great argument.

    The reason we have freedom of speech in the first place is to make sure that you can't be silenced and if you are on the right side of the argument it doesn't get censored by the opposition.

    "I might not agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it".  I love that line.

    The founding fathers were smart enough to realize that it was at the foremost importance to have Freedom of Speech and put it as the first amendment.



  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,866
    rgambs said:
    Slippery slope is a weak argument.
    Everything can be called a slippery slope and every slippery slope can be reversed.
    Slippery slope is never a reason not to act.
    Actually it is a great argument.

    The reason we have freedom of speech in the first place is to make sure that you can't be silenced and if you are on the right side of the argument it doesn't get censored by the opposition.

    "I might not agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it".  I love that line.

    The founding fathers were smart enough to realize that it was at the foremost importance to have Freedom of Speech and put it as the first amendment.



    That doesn't make the slippery slope argument any better.  
    Isn't it also a slippery slope to allowing violence-inducing speech?  Shouldn't Nazi's have been silenced at some point?
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 6,267
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Slippery slope is a weak argument.
    Everything can be called a slippery slope and every slippery slope can be reversed.
    Slippery slope is never a reason not to act.
    Actually it is a great argument.

    The reason we have freedom of speech in the first place is to make sure that you can't be silenced and if you are on the right side of the argument it doesn't get censored by the opposition.

    "I might not agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it".  I love that line.

    The founding fathers were smart enough to realize that it was at the foremost importance to have Freedom of Speech and put it as the first amendment.



    That doesn't make the slippery slope argument any better.  
    Isn't it also a slippery slope to allowing violence-inducing speech?  Shouldn't Nazi's have been silenced at some point?
    As someone  who lost half their family in the camps I fully believe in the right of free speech for everyone including "American Nazis".
    They are really nothing other than trolls.
    Whether they are trying to rile people up online or marching through  a city. They are trolls.
    The best thing people can do is ignore them.

    That being said there should be some limits on hate speech. The end result is the Tree of Life Massacre, NZ massacre, and the Poway shooting. These occur because of the easy accessibility to hate speech. And the current head of government doing his best to encourage it.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 18,066
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Slippery slope is a weak argument.
    Everything can be called a slippery slope and every slippery slope can be reversed.
    Slippery slope is never a reason not to act.
    Actually it is a great argument.

    The reason we have freedom of speech in the first place is to make sure that you can't be silenced and if you are on the right side of the argument it doesn't get censored by the opposition.

    "I might not agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it".  I love that line.

    The founding fathers were smart enough to realize that it was at the foremost importance to have Freedom of Speech and put it as the first amendment.



    That doesn't make the slippery slope argument any better.  
    Isn't it also a slippery slope to allowing violence-inducing speech?  Shouldn't Nazi's have been silenced at some point?
    Yes it is but re read my comments and you have my answer and will be the same every time.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 7,572
    rgambs said:
    Slippery slope is a weak argument.
    Everything can be called a slippery slope and every slippery slope can be reversed.
    Slippery slope is never a reason not to act.
    Actually it is a great argument.

    The reason we have freedom of speech in the first place is to make sure that you can't be silenced and if you are on the right side of the argument it doesn't get censored by the opposition.

    "I might not agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it".  I love that line.

    The founding fathers were smart enough to realize that it was at the foremost importance to have Freedom of Speech and put it as the first amendment.



    I agree with this so long as we all recognize it only applies to public domain and not the ecosystems of private domains such as Facebook. By reducing our reliance on public domain and allowing ourselves to become the product on private ones, we are willingly restricting our own freedom of speech - and then often complaining about its absence when the ecosystem owners exert their own rights to kick you out of their house. 
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 11,866
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Slippery slope is a weak argument.
    Everything can be called a slippery slope and every slippery slope can be reversed.
    Slippery slope is never a reason not to act.
    Actually it is a great argument.

    The reason we have freedom of speech in the first place is to make sure that you can't be silenced and if you are on the right side of the argument it doesn't get censored by the opposition.

    "I might not agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it".  I love that line.

    The founding fathers were smart enough to realize that it was at the foremost importance to have Freedom of Speech and put it as the first amendment.



    That doesn't make the slippery slope argument any better.  
    Isn't it also a slippery slope to allowing violence-inducing speech?  Shouldn't Nazi's have been silenced at some point?
    Yes it is but re read my comments and you have my answer and will be the same every time.
    I guess I just don't agree that the right to free speech is important enough to balance against human lives.  
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 18,021
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    Slippery slope is a weak argument.
    Everything can be called a slippery slope and every slippery slope can be reversed.
    Slippery slope is never a reason not to act.
    Actually it is a great argument.

    The reason we have freedom of speech in the first place is to make sure that you can't be silenced and if you are on the right side of the argument it doesn't get censored by the opposition.

    "I might not agree with you but I'll defend your right to say it".  I love that line.

    The founding fathers were smart enough to realize that it was at the foremost importance to have Freedom of Speech and put it as the first amendment.



    That doesn't make the slippery slope argument any better.  
    Isn't it also a slippery slope to allowing violence-inducing speech?  Shouldn't Nazi's have been silenced at some point?
    Yes it is but re read my comments and you have my answer and will be the same every time.
    I guess I just don't agree that the right to free speech is important enough to balance against human lives.  
    I also believe in the slippery slope argument. by and large, I am confident that most of humanity is not depraved idiots who will forget history. 
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