Universal Basic Income (UBI)

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,845
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    In America, there's no reason that everyone should not have the basics- food, water, clothing and shelter.  I'm all for that happening in one way or another.

    I feel the same way about us here in Canada.  The nearest large city near has seen the homeless problem/opioid/alcohol abuse skyrocket.  And nop one who has the means to address (government does shit)...


    You're shattering my illusion of Canada as Eden.  Sorry to hear that.   Way too many homeless and too much substance abuse, both here and there- it's terrible. 
    Are you joking here Brian? You know that we have social problems, yeah? But Meltdown isn't entirely correct. I can't speak for his province and their crap government, but the new(ish) government in BC is totally addressing these issues in many ways. There is no magic cure for it obviously, but they're working hard on it and making really solid and predictably slow progress with both the addiction/fentanyl problem and homelessness, among many other things, like the child care affordability crisis. That's what happens when the population actually manages to elect leaders who give a shit about more than their corporate cronies and their own egos (and TBH BC barely managed that - they had to form a coalition with the 3 Green Party seats to form a majority).
    You know I was talking about the closest big that I live near.  Remember the previous governments created the problem left for the current government to fix.  I wouldn't brag about a province or city that had a new story of kids using dirty needles as darts...wtf is the matter with you.
    So the fact that there are discarded needles in a park on Vancouver Island somehow negates the actions that the provincial and municipal governments are taking in tackling homelessness and addictions? 
     
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
    edited March 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    In America, there's no reason that everyone should not have the basics- food, water, clothing and shelter.  I'm all for that happening in one way or another.

    I feel the same way about us here in Canada.  The nearest large city near has seen the homeless problem/opioid/alcohol abuse skyrocket.  And nop one who has the means to address (government does shit)...


    You're shattering my illusion of Canada as Eden.  Sorry to hear that.   Way too many homeless and too much substance abuse, both here and there- it's terrible. 
    Are you joking here Brian? You know that we have social problems, yeah? But Meltdown isn't entirely correct. I can't speak for his province and their crap government, but the new(ish) government in BC is totally addressing these issues in many ways. There is no magic cure for it obviously, but they're working hard on it and making really solid and predictably slow progress with both the addiction/fentanyl problem and homelessness, among many other things, like the child care affordability crisis. That's what happens when the population actually manages to elect leaders who give a shit about more than their corporate cronies and their own egos (and TBH BC barely managed that - they had to form a coalition with the 3 Green Party seats to form a majority).
    You know I was talking about the closest big that I live near.  Remember the previous governments created the problem left for the current government to fix.  I wouldn't brag about a province or city that had a new story of kids using dirty needles as darts...wtf is the matter with you.
    Wtf is the matter with you? I can't even work out why you would take this tone with me because of what I said. I'm not bragging. I'm saying I'm pleased with how the current provincial government is functioning. What, are you being defensive of Ontario or something?? I said I can't speak for your province. I know I'm not in favour of its current government though, for a few reasons ... I wasn't in favour of its last one either. But why would you give a shit if I think that? Or did you react like that because you thought I made that last statement about voters and you thought I meant Ontario voters? I didn't. That was directed south, lol, and was sarcastic.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,822
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    brianlux said:
    In America, there's no reason that everyone should not have the basics- food, water, clothing and shelter.  I'm all for that happening in one way or another.

    I feel the same way about us here in Canada.  The nearest large city near has seen the homeless problem/opioid/alcohol abuse skyrocket.  And nop one who has the means to address (government does shit)...


    You're shattering my illusion of Canada as Eden.  Sorry to hear that.   Way too many homeless and too much substance abuse, both here and there- it's terrible. 
    Are you joking here Brian? You know that we have social problems, yeah? But Meltdown isn't entirely correct. I can't speak for his province and their crap government, but the new(ish) government in BC is totally addressing these issues in many ways. There is no magic cure for it obviously, but they're working hard on it and making really solid and predictably slow progress with both the addiction/fentanyl problem and homelessness, among many other things, like the child care affordability crisis. That's what happens when the population actually manages to elect leaders who give a shit about more than their corporate cronies and their own egos (and TBH BC barely managed that - they had to form a coalition with the 3 Green Party seats to form a majority).
    You know I was talking about the closest big that I live near.  Remember the previous governments created the problem left for the current government to fix.  I wouldn't brag about a province or city that had a new story of kids using dirty needles as darts...wtf is the matter with you.
    Wtf is the matter with you? I can't even work out why you would take this tone with me because of what I said. I'm not bragging. I'm saying I'm pleased with how the current provincial government is functioning. What, are you being defensive of Ontario or something?? I said I can't speak for your province. I know I'm not in favour of its current government though, for a few reasons ... I wasn't in favour of its last one either. But why would you give a shit if I think that? Or did you react like that because you thought I made that last statement about voters and you thought I meant Ontario voters? I didn't. That was directed south, lol, and was sarcastic.
    zero to lunatic in three posts or less. 
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,987
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,300

    Run for cover!!!



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    brianlux said:

    Run for cover!!!



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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,300
    brianlux said:

    Run for cover!!!



    It used to take two people in a bi-plane to achieve 1/1000000 of that. Efficiency!
    And of course we've gone to greater extremes...

    "Pretty cookies, heart squares all around, yeah!"
    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

    "Try to not spook the horse."
    -Neil Young













  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,491
    Anyone going to follow the Jersey experiment?
  • foodshop65foodshop65 Connecticut Posts: 731
    edited March 2019
    NJ is insolvent so this should help with their unfunded pension liabilities
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