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PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
edited March 2019 in A Moving Train
I mentioned this issue in another thread somewhat recently during a convo about tuition costs/access to education/students buying degrees/cheating in post-secondary education. From what I've heard through the university grape vine over the years, this practice is actually RAMPANT in private universities in the USA (particularly in Ivy League schools), and goes way beyond this FBI accusation, on one level or another. The rich buying degrees and/or school work and getting richer as the poor get poorer. When will Americans demand justice and fairness in their higher education system? As someone who works in higher education, I'd really like to see Americans take notice and then take action, and demand better for their youth. It impacts every university and college in the world, really. FWIW, I have PERSONALLY caught a coach at a very famous American institution helping a student cheat on his exams. It was incredibly awkward, and ultimately nothing happened to him just because of politics.



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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    I know someone who did that for his kid for both prep school and college. Got him on the lacross team in college too with a donation to the athletic department. Kid flunked out and is enrolled PT in community college. Nothing A List about either the prep school or college, probably second or third tier schools.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    This is just fucking disgusting damn rich pricks just thinking fucking money can buy you anything! Yet there’s kids in urban neighborhoods that are smarter that will never get near these schools it’s fucked up this country is just corrupted in every level ! 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    And one of the results is Team Trump Treason in the WH, but shhhhhhhh, don’t tell his base. They want to believe the myth.
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And one of the results is Team Trump Treason in the WH, but shhhhhhhh, don’t tell his base. They want to believe the myth.
    An in-law?

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    OnWis97 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And one of the results is Team Trump Treason in the WH, but shhhhhhhh, don’t tell his base. They want to believe the myth.
    An in-law?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.propublica.org/article/the-story-behind-jared-kushners-curious-acceptance-into-harvard/amp

    Well, that was a fun little read.

    90% of the Harvard class graduates "with honours"? There's something really wrong with that. 
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Full House mom's daughter hehe

    Her daughters terrible fluff consumeristic meaningless Youtube channel is getting ripped apart in the comments
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    Proud to be an alumnus whose parents didn't have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars or lie to get me in to one of those schools.  
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    Not surprised at all. 

    And to make matters worse, the costs even for an average college, not just a prestigious university, just keep going up.  The cost of tuition today for attending the first semester with a full 15 units at the college I started out at in 1969 would be, adjusting for inflation, about $350.  It's not, it's now $7254.

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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,140
    So I wonder how Fox Current Events-Related Entertainment is covering this.  My guess is focusing on Felicity Huffman, who is a liberal (and, to a lesser extent, Lori Loughlin, who's politics I am not aware of) and yelling about the Hollywood elite.  The fact that most of the bribers are CEOs and the non-elite kind of rich people will not be acknowledged.  Just my guess.  I don't intend to tune in and find out.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    OnWis97 said:
    So I wonder how Fox Current Events-Related Entertainment is covering this.  My guess is focusing on Felicity Huffman, who is a liberal (and, to a lesser extent, Lori Loughlin, who's politics I am not aware of) and yelling about the Hollywood elite.  The fact that most of the bribers are CEOs and the non-elite kind of rich people will not be acknowledged.  Just my guess.  I don't intend to tune in and find out.
    I heard the beginning of the flush limbo show yesterday  and he was literally screaming  that is was "leftist liberal hollywood" people who had done this.
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    Did the FBI investigate Fordham University and University of Pennsylvania's admissions procedures? Seems targeted. Still total BS but its been BS for decades.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    FWIW, the university I work for actually banned all coaches from proctoring exams and from arranging proctoring services for our students years ago. The ban was put in place when it became clear that many of them were not following instructions properly in order to help the students, and like I said, they have been caught straight up helping students cheat too. It is common knowledge that coaches can't be trusted with these things.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    BTW, I haven't had such a strong sense of schadenfreude in a long time, lol. This story is so for me. :lol:
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,173
    OnWis97 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And one of the results is Team Trump Treason in the WH, but shhhhhhhh, don’t tell his base. They want to believe the myth.
    An in-law?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.propublica.org/article/the-story-behind-jared-kushners-curious-acceptance-into-harvard/amp
    trump, trump jr. and daughter as well. does anyone really think any of them could get into an Ivy League school, otherwise?
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,799
    I don't even know where to begin, this is such a disgrace.  I know many, many young adults who will spend years, decades even, paying off student loans for an education that has not garnered a decent job.  It breaks my heart to think of the young people who have missed out on scholarships, those who worked their entire lives, got good grades, studied hard and were passed up by wealthy people paying for their kids to get into a good school.  It says a lot about the parents too, it's all about image.  I knew nothing about Lori Laughlin's kids prior to this but now that this has come out, she's not only disgraced the education system, she's made a fool of her daughters.  Half a million dollars.  My kids are so pathetic, I had to pay $500,000 just to get them into this school.  I'd really like to see their high school report cards.  Fucking sad.
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    cutz said:









    I had to look it up. It's unfortunately a little bit true.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tanya-mcdowell-sentencing/
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,525
    This whole country is corrupt !
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,435
    josevolution said:
    This whole country is corrupt !
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  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,265
    PureandEasy said:
    I don't even know where to begin, this is such a disgrace.  I know many, many young adults who will spend years, decades even, paying off student loans for an education that has not garnered a decent job.  It breaks my heart to think of the young people who have missed out on scholarships, those who worked their entire lives, got good grades, studied hard and were passed up by wealthy people paying for their kids to get into a good school.  It says a lot about the parents too, it's all about image.  I knew nothing about Lori Laughlin's kids prior to this but now that this has come out, she's not only disgraced the education system, she's made a fool of her daughters.  Half a million dollars.  My kids are so pathetic, I had to pay $500,000 just to get them into this school.  I'd really like to see their high school report cards.  Fucking sad.
    I could be wrong but I don't think these rich buy-ins took the spots from scholarship/grant kids.  I think they took the spots from kids who would have paid full tuition and worked their asses off to be the best-of-the-best and to get in.

    I do feel badly for Lori.  First...I went to USC, it is the fucking shit.  Who wouldn't want their kids to go there!!  (Just kidding, it was a school.)
    In all seriousness, she is being held up as the symbol of this corruption bs because she was on a lame fucking TV show.  What about all of the other people who were the same, awful, craps? 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Smellyman said:
    Full House mom's daughter hehe

    Her daughters terrible fluff consumeristic meaningless Youtube channel is getting ripped apart in the comments
    hahaha!  Her comments have all been turned off on the videos.

    Not her fault this happened but her life is ruined now from all this.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    I always thought that GHW Bush was a part of this too.  Some people you see and say "how the hell did you get in to Yale/Harvard, etc"?
  • F Me In The BrainF Me In The Brain Posts: 31,265
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I always thought that GHW Bush was a part of this too.  Some people you see and say "how the hell did you get in to Yale/Harvard, etc"?
    Son of a prominent legacy...guessing they didn't have to pay any extra. 
    Those schools have always taken old money legacy kids.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Smellyman said:
    Full House mom's daughter hehe

    Her daughters terrible fluff consumeristic meaningless Youtube channel is getting ripped apart in the comments
    hahaha!  Her comments have all been turned off on the videos.

    Not her fault this happened but her life is ruined now from all this.
    Hardly ruined. They’ll hire crises consultants and image rehabilitators and disappear for awhile after their high powered, expensive attorneys plea deal three months to serve, three months home confinement and a year of public service. Then they’ll meld back into their rich, corrupt lifestyle with their brethren and fall out of our collective memories. Or they’ll run for  president, be a spokesperson for some product that nobody needs or write a book about their unfair life.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,763
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I always thought that GHW Bush was a part of this too.  Some people you see and say "how the hell did you get in to Yale/Harvard, etc"?
    Son of a prominent legacy...guessing they didn't have to pay any extra. 
    Those schools have always taken old money legacy kids.
    He got in because he was a legacy and his family had deep connections, financial  and otherwise, to Yale.
    Not because of grades

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    Bentleyspop said:
    F Me In The Brain said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I always thought that GHW Bush was a part of this too.  Some people you see and say "how the hell did you get in to Yale/Harvard, etc"?
    Son of a prominent legacy...guessing they didn't have to pay any extra. 
    Those schools have always taken old money legacy kids.
    He got in because he was a legacy and his family had deep connections, financial  and otherwise, to Yale.
    Not because of grades

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