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tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
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I finally heard more on this last night on BBC so I'm posting it.

There is a powder keg ready to between the nations of Pakistan and India.

You should be hearing a lot more on this real soon.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47383634

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    tempo_n_groove said:
    I finally heard more on this last night on BBC so I'm posting it.

    There is a powder keg ready to between the nations of Pakistan and India.

    You should be hearing a lot more on this real soon.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47383634
    2 nuclear nations engaging each other militarily, who also hate each other...what could go wrong.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    This has bern going on for a long time... far from a new concern
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    Again?  Shit!  This is very sad to me, having recently read this wonder book- one of my very favorite mountaineering books-  by Steve Swenson called Karakoram: Climbing Through the Kashmir Conflict.  In this book, Swenson shows you the struggles the average person in this region goes through- people who have no interest in the b.s. political conflicts and are just struggling to survive.  The author also gives a clear picture of how important tourism and climbing expeditions have been very helpful for these people.  During these heightened times of conflict though, those areas become closed off to outsiders and the people there struggle worse than ever.    Sad to here things are going to hell there still/ again.


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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    my2hands said:
    This has bern going on for a long time... far from a new concern
    They are shooting down planes now so that has me concerned...
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    India and Pakistan in 'uncharted waters'

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-47382949

    For one, Tuesday's air strikes by India were completely unexpected. They are the first launched across the LoC - the de facto border that divides Kashmir - since a war between the two countries in 1971.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Bad shit. I hope cooler heads prevail... But I'm not counting on it.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    My guess is that there is a fifty-fold better awareness of Stormy Daniels' latest thoughts on Trump then there are of what is occurring between these two countries. 
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited February 2019
    That is undeniable.
    International flights to India were all turned around, Pakistan has closed its air space.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    Has the Team Trump Treason Administration or any representative made a public statement asking the sides to de-escalate? Or are they too busy taking turns slow dancing with Little Rocket Man? Priorities, you know?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    That is undeniable.
    International flights to India were all turned around, Pakistan has closed its air space.
    I think Air Canada has found an alternative route...and is resuming flights to India.  So you can book your flight to India now. /s
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That is undeniable.
    International flights to India were all turned around, Pakistan has closed its air space.
    I think Air Canada has found an alternative route...and is resuming flights to India.  So you can book your flight to India now. /s
    Oh good, I was thinking about booking a vacation, and this sounds perfect. There are probably some good package deals available now! :lol:
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,018
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That is undeniable.
    International flights to India were all turned around, Pakistan has closed its air space.
    I think Air Canada has found an alternative route...and is resuming flights to India.  So you can book your flight to India now. /s
    Oh good, I was thinking about booking a vacation, and this sounds perfect. There are probably some good package deals available now! :lol:
    Taj Mahal and the Ganges are on my bucket list.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,950
    edited February 2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That is undeniable.
    International flights to India were all turned around, Pakistan has closed its air space.
    I think Air Canada has found an alternative route...and is resuming flights to India.  So you can book your flight to India now. /s
    Oh good, I was thinking about booking a vacation, and this sounds perfect. There are probably some good package deals available now! :lol:
    Taj Mahal and the Ganges are on my bucket list.
    Not to piss on on your bucket list item or anything, but I recently saw this story about how the Taj Mahal is an absolute disappointment now because the extreme air pollution in the area and because the land around it is literally a garbage dump. It has destroyed the surfaces of it, and it has been totally neglected in terms of upkeep. :frowning: Some are even talking about tearing it down.
    I also saw that the Gaza Pyramids are now more disgusting than awe inspiring because the entire area is practically a garbage pit, with trash whirling around in the air and everything. It's really depressing.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    God, Buddha, Mohammad, Shiva, The Univerese, Bless Taj Mahal!

    And while the gods/Universe are at it, save the world from the kind of insanity going on in the Kashmir yet again.
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  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,138
    I'm pretty sure after Russia turned that Air Malaysia passenger flight into metal confetti and human hamburger that airlines will now avoid areas in conflict.  Damn lawyers. :s
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    That is undeniable.
    International flights to India were all turned around, Pakistan has closed its air space.
    I think Air Canada has found an alternative route...and is resuming flights to India.  So you can book your flight to India now. /s
    Oh good, I was thinking about booking a vacation, and this sounds perfect. There are probably some good package deals available now! :lol:
    You might get a great deal in the Kashmir region.  I think they even will supply a radiation badge in case the nukes start flying...
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    Both India and Pakistan are talking so the situation is calming.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Both India and Pakistan are talking so the situation is calming.
    Imagine that, they do not need the US to interfere and make things worse.  Smart countries should always keep their distance from US help.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    let the nukes fly, fuck it
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    my2hands said:
    let the nukes fly, fuck it
    Well I'll be damned!  So you are Chuck Dukowski! :smiley:
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    brianlux said:
    my2hands said:
    let the nukes fly, fuck it
    Well I'll be damned!  So you are Chuck Dukowski! :smiley:

    well shit, thank you for the compliment... I couldn't play three notes on a bass though if you paid me lol
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Pakistan plans to free the Indian fighter pilot captured in the conflict. It seems they are bending slightly more than India, to avoid escalation.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/pakistan-set-free-indian-pilot-de-escalate-tensions-190301072536177.html
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,025
    my2hands said:
    brianlux said:
    my2hands said:
    let the nukes fly, fuck it
    Well I'll be damned!  So you are Chuck Dukowski! :smiley:

    well shit, thank you for the compliment... I couldn't play three notes on a bass though if you paid me lol
    Not to worry, its the sharp mind/ quick wit that counts here!
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Unfortunately, shelling continues with deaths on both sides of the LoC.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/03/kashmir-shelling-pakistan-releases-captured-indian-pilot-190302065456135.html
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