YOUR SIX TIME SOON TO BE SEVEN TIME SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

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  • Wobbie
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    F Me In The Brain said:
    I still can't believe that dude got the ladies he did.
    :lol:    
    Good for him, I can't stand their music.  @wobbie loves them.
    the list of homely rock dudes who pulled major tail is long.

    and, yeah, I do hold the counting crows in high regard.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • ikiT
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    Y'all forgot Super Bowl Champion Tebucky Jones
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
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    ^^^ Aaron, Cedric, Chandler, Cyrus, Chris, Don, Ezell, Todd, Kenyatta, Mike, Nathan,Todd.

    Keepin up with the Joneses
  • Poncier
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    ikiT said:
    Y'all forgot Super Bowl Champion Tebucky Jones


    1ThoughtKnown said:
    ^^^ Aaron, Cedric, Chandler, Cyrus, Chris, Don, Ezell, Todd, Kenyatta, Mike, Nathan,Todd.

    Keepin up with the Joneses
    I was just listing the 69 current Joneses.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,792
    Poncier said:
    ikiT said:
    Y'all forgot Super Bowl Champion Tebucky Jones


    1ThoughtKnown said:
    ^^^ Aaron, Cedric, Chandler, Cyrus, Chris, Don, Ezell, Todd, Kenyatta, Mike, Nathan,Todd.

    Keepin up with the Joneses
    I was just listing the 69 current Joneses.
    How many Joneses was that again? 


  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

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  • Merkin Baller
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
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  • Merkin Baller
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
  • Merkin Baller
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    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    & who employs him as well... 
  • Poncier
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    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Yep.
    The old John Henry sleight of hand.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Merkin Baller
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    edited December 2022
    Poncier said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Yep.
    The old John Henry sleight of hand.

    On boston.com too, as opposed to behind the Globe's paywall.   :D
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.


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  • Merkin Baller
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.



  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.



    To seeing the PTAPE?
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  • 1ThoughtKnown
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    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.



    Hahah
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,792
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    Darkness on the edge of the Patriots dynasty

    Death and distress haunt members of the 2001 title team.

    Jermaine Wiggins, a tenement kid from East Boston who gained a glimmer of fame by helping the Patriots win their first Super Bowl and launch one of football’s greatest dynasties, went broke within two years of his last NFL game.

    But Wiggins was never alone in hardship among alumni of New England’s historic 2001 team.

    Twenty years after those underdog Patriots shocked the football world and triggered the transformation of Boston into a City of Champions, life has been extraordinarily kind to many in their ranks. Tom Brady, Richard Seymour, and Willie McGinest, among others, have basked in wealth and glory.

    Continues


    https://www.boston.com/sports/the-boston-globe/2022/12/08/darkness-on-the-edge-of-the-patriots-dynasty/

     
    A Bob Hohler Patriots "article" getting published by Boston.com the same week the Sox are getting dragged for letting one of their homegrown fan favorites walk? 

    I've seen this episode before. 
    Doesn’t negate the facts of the former pats players, and much of former NFL players, coming away from the game as damaged goods. Brutal sport.

    One has nothing to do with the other.

    Are you familiar with Bob Hohler's work? 
    No. Does he make shit up?
    I never claimed he did. 

    If you want to do some research into his body of work, it might shed some light on the point I was making. If not, that's ok too. 
    Or you could explain your comment/comparison. Or not.

    He writes sports columns for the Boston Globe and covered the Sox during their 2004 World Series run. So?

    The Boston Globe is owned by John Henry, who also happens to own the Sox. So?

    It’s not like the letting go of Xander to SD is not being reported on or that the Sox and their front office aren’t being skewered for it in the media. Not to mention that it reminds me of Swade Boggs’ departure in that it seems to have been more about the years than the money. 11 years is a long time in any sport and particularly for a 30 year old. So?

    None of which negates the reporting on the Pats Super Bowl players and their futures.

    And I wish homegrown players and those who arrive as rookies and have outstanding careers would retire from their teams but we all know it’s all about the money all the way around. Money has ruined sports, from the ticket prices, to crazy salaries/profits, to rules changes for TV viewers and ad revenue to new stadiums every ten years or so. Added to that is that ownership usually gets cheap after Winning a championship or two and players move on. It ain’t like it used to be.



    To seeing the PTAPE?
    I legit lol’ed
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