New Gillette add "Toxic Masculinity" is causing quite a stir!

Smellyman

yeah.  If this ad makes you upset than you are probably the problem

Malroth

PJ_Soul said:

Malroth said:

PJ_Soul said:

A man who is offended by that isn't much of a man.

I've always considered myself half a man.

While this doesn't offend me, ITS A RAZOR COMMERCIALLLLLLLLLLL.

I raise my son not to be a bully, ITS A RAZOR COMMERCIALLLLLLL.

I respect women, its a razor...sorry.

I'm not sure how this relates to what I said.

I'm not either

Malroth

mickeyrat said:

I think some folks are taking this personally.....

does the shoe fit? break them fuckers in then......

Some folk take everything personally.

Malroth

Smellyman said:

yeah.  If this ad makes you upset than you are probably the problem

  You mean, If you do the things descripted in this ad you may be the problem

Meltdown99

Gillette cares about $$$$.  This is a commercial designed to sell overpriced products, that's all.  If the commercial/ad were to fall flat they will not keep running because they care, they will pull the ad.

cincybearcat

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette cares about $$$$.  This is a commercial designed to sell overpriced products, that's all.  If the commercial/ad were to fall flat they will not keep running because they care, they will pull the ad.

This is a very simplistic view.  Sure companies want to make $.  They like positive press.  But plenty of companies spend lots of $ on stuff that doesn't make them $.  The demonizing of companies and the workplace is awful.

Meltdown99

cincybearcat said:

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette cares about $$$$.  This is a commercial designed to sell overpriced products, that's all.  If the commercial/ad were to fall flat they will not keep running because they care, they will pull the ad.

This is a very simplistic view.  Sure companies want to make $.  They like positive press.  But plenty of companies spend lots of $ on stuff that doesn't make them $.  The demonizing of companies and the workplace is awful.

No, it's not, if the ad flops, they will pull it...corporations only care about money.  Gillette is just a well-marketed company selling overpriced stuff.

Smellyman

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HesCalledDyer

Meltdown99 said:

cincybearcat said:

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette cares about $$$$.  This is a commercial designed to sell overpriced products, that's all.  If the commercial/ad were to fall flat they will not keep running because they care, they will pull the ad.

This is a very simplistic view.  Sure companies want to make $.  They like positive press.  But plenty of companies spend lots of $ on stuff that doesn't make them $.  The demonizing of companies and the workplace is awful.

No, it's not, if the ad flops, they will pull it...corporations only care about money.  Gillette is just a well-marketed company selling overpriced stuff.

I get a year's supply of Silver Blues for $10.

cincybearcat

Meltdown99 said:

cincybearcat said:

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette cares about $$$$.  This is a commercial designed to sell overpriced products, that's all.  If the commercial/ad were to fall flat they will not keep running because they care, they will pull the ad.

This is a very simplistic view.  Sure companies want to make $.  They like positive press.  But plenty of companies spend lots of $ on stuff that doesn't make them $.  The demonizing of companies and the workplace is awful.

No, it's not, if the ad flops, they will pull it...corporations only care about money.  Gillette is just a well-marketed company selling overpriced stuff.

Ok, companies shouldn't make $.  Got it.  And if they do anything else they do doesn't matter.  

Meltdown99

rgambs said:

I use Bic single blade razors, not overpriced at all!

Same here.

Meltdown99

cincybearcat said:

Meltdown99 said:

cincybearcat said:

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette cares about $$$$.  This is a commercial designed to sell overpriced products, that's all.  If the commercial/ad were to fall flat they will not keep running because they care, they will pull the ad.

This is a very simplistic view.  Sure companies want to make $.  They like positive press.  But plenty of companies spend lots of $ on stuff that doesn't make them $.  The demonizing of companies and the workplace is awful.

No, it's not, if the ad flops, they will pull it...corporations only care about money.  Gillette is just a well-marketed company selling overpriced stuff.

Ok, companies shouldn't make $.  Got it.  And if they do anything else they do doesn't matter.  

I never said companies can not make money, I am saying marketing campaign that they think will increase revenues.  These companies do not care about people, just money.

cincybearcat

Meltdown99 said:

cincybearcat said:

Meltdown99 said:

cincybearcat said:

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette cares about $$$$.  This is a commercial designed to sell overpriced products, that's all.  If the commercial/ad were to fall flat they will not keep running because they care, they will pull the ad.

This is a very simplistic view.  Sure companies want to make $.  They like positive press.  But plenty of companies spend lots of $ on stuff that doesn't make them $.  The demonizing of companies and the workplace is awful.

No, it's not, if the ad flops, they will pull it...corporations only care about money.  Gillette is just a well-marketed company selling overpriced stuff.

Ok, companies shouldn't make $.  Got it.  And if they do anything else they do doesn't matter.  

I never said companies can not make money, I am saying marketing campaign that they think will increase revenues.  These companies do not care about people, just money.

Alrighty then, we can't have a rational discussion about this.  

mrussel1

Meltdown99 said:

rgambs said:

I use Bic single blade razors, not overpriced at all!

Same here.

Something would go traumatically wrong for me if I tried to use a single blade disposable or a silver blue.

As far as Gillette, I think they know a few things and geared this ad towards that knowledge.  Whether it's successful like Nike is yet to be seen:
1. Millenials are the single largest adult group in this country now (this surprised me but I saw it in a few places... what happened to us Xers??)
2. Millenials are drawn to companies that are socially conscious.  This is different than the "shut up and sing" generation.  
3. Women buy more of these products, both for themselves, and for their partners than men.  

So I think men were the subject of the ad, not the target. 

Annafalk

“At P&G, We do not test our products or ingredients on animals anywhere in the world unless required by law. This means they test on animals to sell to foreign markets like China, etc. 

Meltdown99

Gillette Engaged in Deceptive Made in USA Marketing According to Ad Watchdog TINA.org

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/01/23/1299266/0/en/Gillette-Engaged-in-Deceptive-Made-in-USA-Marketing-According-to-Ad-Watchdog-TINA-org.html

Profits good.  Locating in countries and paying decent wages bad.

cincybearcat

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette Engaged in Deceptive Made in USA Marketing According to Ad Watchdog TINA.org

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/01/23/1299266/0/en/Gillette-Engaged-in-Deceptive-Made-in-USA-Marketing-According-to-Ad-Watchdog-TINA-org.html

Profits good.  Locating in countries and paying decent wages bad.

This is stupid.  P&G has regional manufacturing.  They generally produce the products for the region in that region.  The Boston Gillette facility is quite large and employee a great deal of people.  P&G has manufacturing facilities all over the US for the North American market.  

If you are in the US, most of the products you buy have been manufactured in NA.

HughFreakingDillon

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette Engaged in Deceptive Made in USA Marketing According to Ad Watchdog TINA.org

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/01/23/1299266/0/en/Gillette-Engaged-in-Deceptive-Made-in-USA-Marketing-According-to-Ad-Watchdog-TINA-org.html

Profits good.  Locating in countries and paying decent wages bad.

why does everything have to turn into raking everyone over the coals? I don't give a shit, in this discussion, what gillette does or doesn't do. it's a good message. is it marketing? of course, but that doesn't take away from the message it sends and how it may inspire people. 

tempo_n_groove

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette Engaged in Deceptive Made in USA Marketing According to Ad Watchdog TINA.org

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/01/23/1299266/0/en/Gillette-Engaged-in-Deceptive-Made-in-USA-Marketing-According-to-Ad-Watchdog-TINA-org.html

Profits good.  Locating in countries and paying decent wages bad.

why does everything have to turn into raking everyone over the coals? I don't give a shit, in this discussion, what gillette does or doesn't do. it's a good message. is it marketing? of course, but that doesn't take away from the message it sends and how it may inspire people. 

But Nike, but Apple, but Hilary's emails, but Trumps collusion...

I understand @HughFreakingDillon but we are on the 2nd page so it's about time for this thread to take a shit south now, lol.

I know of one person that had an issue and publicly posted it.  Anyone else see any real outrage besides am anonymous comment or twitter post?

Smellyman

tempo_n_groove said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Meltdown99 said:

Gillette Engaged in Deceptive Made in USA Marketing According to Ad Watchdog TINA.org

https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/01/23/1299266/0/en/Gillette-Engaged-in-Deceptive-Made-in-USA-Marketing-According-to-Ad-Watchdog-TINA-org.html

Profits good.  Locating in countries and paying decent wages bad.

why does everything have to turn into raking everyone over the coals? I don't give a shit, in this discussion, what gillette does or doesn't do. it's a good message. is it marketing? of course, but that doesn't take away from the message it sends and how it may inspire people. 

But Nike, but Apple, but Hilary's emails, but Trumps collusion...

I understand @HughFreakingDillon but we are on the 2nd page so it's about time for this thread to take a shit south now, lol.

I know of one person that had an issue and publicly posted it.  Anyone else see any real outrage besides am anonymous comment or twitter post?

which is weird.  Anecdotally I don't know anybody with an issue with the ad, but it has way more dislikes than likes on youtube and all other social media.  Are the right wing/russian bots doing this or are there that many deplorables and I just don't know any?