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Was 2006 the year they played the "fastest" ?

Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,954
edited January 2019 in The Porch
It even sounds like its sped up afterwards:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxVT2Q0-EtM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNVU6IQDywc
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  • given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,944
    Yeah, way too fast. It's hard for me to listen to 2006 shows.

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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,516
    edited January 2019
    It was the year they played the best post-2000
    Pittsburgh 2013
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  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,814
    Some songs faster some not.  The more I go back though, I find the ones that are just too amped up nowadays sound actually okay in comparison on earlier tours were they were faster but not hyper space.

    The harder edge songs I don't mind if they speed up some, but I don't need to hear Given or wishlist or Off He Goes played at breakneck speed.  Just doesn't do it for me.
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    I still dont get why songs are sped up.  Isnt it easier for Eddie to sing at normal speed?
  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,814
    cp3iverson said:
    I still dont get why songs are sped up.  Isnt it easier for Eddie to sing at normal speed?
    Some/most definitely yes.  Others I think it is a combo of desire to play it a half beat or so faster, others still I think it is adrenaline through the years.


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  • RYMERYME Wisconsin Posts: 1,904
    edited January 2019
    I never even gave that a thought's thought until saw this thread.  I gues I knew it subconsciously but never gave it 2 thoughts.  Now that you bring it out.  To me its like duh,,,
    Is that the strategy on how they make it through 30 + songs a night?
    Ill never be able to listen again without the annoyance of the speed singing. Lol
    Yeah all those songs are way to fast.  Jeremy. Given, Why Go, Better Man is super fast you're right, (geeze)  Much better at album speed.
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  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,458
    On their last episode, the gentlemen at Single Podcast Theory put together a little demo of how much faster "Given To Fly" is nowadays by juxtapositioning a 1998 live version with a 2016 live version. The difference really is "jarring."
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    Indeed, really shit.
  • pursuedbybearpursuedbybear Posts: 108
    I really miss album-tempo Even Flow.
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,721
    2010 and 2011 was the two years played too fast
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,773
    dimitrispearljam said:
    2010 and 2011 was the two years played too fast
    I agree. I actually the 2006 tour. Sane absolutely incredible sets, and EV was vocally in point. 
  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    Just heard "Black" from Cleveland 2003. Holy shit, talk about slow. I could actually hear each opening chord on Stone's resonator.
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  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,458
    nicknyr15 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    2010 and 2011 was the two years played too fast
    I agree. I actually the 2006 tour. Sane absolutely incredible sets, and EV was vocally in point. 
    2006 was indeed great. Solid performances of the older stuff and still playing most of their later stuff (but yet to start playing all that BS, er....Backspacer).
  • PB11041PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,814
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Just heard "Black" from Cleveland 2003. Holy shit, talk about slow. I could actually hear each opening chord on Stone's resonator.
    Some of that is pacing but some of this also his choice of guitars in 2003 and 2005 (I think he was using them some in 2006 too, but I am not as steeped in that tour)  When Ratsound figured out how to make his acoustics fill an arena and he began sliding away from the duotone electric for certain songs it was a really great mix.  To me, 2003 through 2009 are some Stones best playing with Pearl Jam.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,345
    PB11041 said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Just heard "Black" from Cleveland 2003. Holy shit, talk about slow. I could actually hear each opening chord on Stone's resonator.
    Some of that is pacing but some of this also his choice of guitars in 2003 and 2005 (I think he was using them some in 2006 too, but I am not as steeped in that tour)  When Ratsound figured out how to make his acoustics fill an arena and he began sliding away from the duotone electric for certain songs it was a really great mix.  To me, 2003 through 2009 are some Stones best playing with Pearl Jam.
    Agreed - some of that was purposeful vibe!
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,954
    nicknyr15 said:
    dimitrispearljam said:
    2010 and 2011 was the two years played too fast
    I agree. I actually the 2006 tour. Sane absolutely incredible sets, and EV was vocally in point. 
    Loving the 06 tour or not =/= they were playing the fastest.

    I LOVE the 2006 tour. Feel like it was the last tour before they went all in on the "we are here to entertain you" thing. 
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  • PianoManKDPianoManKD Posts: 125
    Cameron speeds up all the time. All the time.
  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,773
    PianoManKD said:
    Cameron speeds up all the time. All the time.
    I’m a drummer. Do you really think he dictates the tempo? In other words, don’t you think if even if just EV wanted it played slower, it would be played slower? MC is a world class drummer who can keep tempo at any speed and play crazy time signatures with ease. 
  • CantKeepmedownCantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,065
    GTF and SOLAT are the two songs that suffer the most from this problem.  I find myself skipping GTF a lot in the post 2006 tours.  
  • ten-vs-vitalogyten-vs-vitalogy Posts: 218
    CantKeepmedown said:
    GTF and SOLAT are the two songs that suffer the most from this problem.  I find myself skipping GTF a lot in the post 2006 tours.  
    100%
    SOLAT has become near unlistenable live. One of my favourite songs but the album or 1994 versions will always make a playlist over anything in the last 15 years. 
  • Dr.Teeth and the Electric MayhDr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh Posts: 1,180
    This was going on well before 06. 
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,331
    nicknyr15 said:
    PianoManKD said:
    Cameron speeds up all the time. All the time.
    I’m a drummer. Do you really think he dictates the tempo? In other words, don’t you think if even if just EV wanted it played slower, it would be played slower? MC is a world class drummer who can keep tempo at any speed and play crazy time signatures with ease. 
    Yeah. That’s the weird thing in these tempo discussions. They think Matt is screwing up or going off adrenaline. The dude is a total pro and can keep tempo at whatever the band wants the tempo to be. 
  • rummyrummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,458
    edited January 2019
    Dr.Teeth and the Electric Mayh said:
    This was going on well before 06. 
    True. I was listening to a version of "Animal" from the 2000 tour - I think is as Pittsburgh. It seemed way too fast.

    (Oddly enough, the Pittsburgh 2013 version is probably the best one from the past decade)
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