Ryan Adams 2019

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,485
    Why would he post it in the Daily Mail. Isn't that a thrash "ALIENS HAVE BEEN SPOTTED IN THE LONDON SEWERS" tabloid
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,485
    pledgeagrievance said:
    That’s a a lot of “I”’s
    https://youtu.be/EVXn1tBZQqg
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    He can just fuck right off at this point. He doesn’t get it and he doesn’t want to get it. What a pathetic apology, made even a little more pathetic by the fact it’s hot on the heels of a victim’s album release. 
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,661
    yep
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    I'm not sure any kind of apology would be good enough at this stage.
  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,802
    I was interested to see that he’d finally decided to say something, but it’s all bollocks. The sales pitch at the end for his new songs just made it even worse.
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • joberschlake
    joberschlake Columbus, OH Posts: 1,179
    I finally pulled the trigger on selling my Ryan Adams stuff.  If anyone is looking for his albums let me know.  I’ll let you know what I have left
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  • Wobbie
    Wobbie Posts: 31,314
    new album yesterday.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Wobbie said:
    new album yesterday.
    Think it's actually really good. A bit Neil Young in places, a bit Dylanesque. The songwriting is up there with his best and its probably the album he needed to make. A lot of regret and emotion in there. I'd say its definitely worth a listen
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    I listened to about half of it yesterday. The guy has major issues. Addiction, mental health issues and who knows what else. I’m not excusing his behavior, but people with those issues aren’t like themselves. Cloudy thinking, and judgement even on their best days. The sober/clean RA, working on his mental health might be a sweetheart guy. Personally I am not sure I can ever listen to his stuff the same as before, but I believe in healing, atonement and redemption. We’re all struggling to some degree being our best selves & I wish RA the best in that journey. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    The new album is very good IMO.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    Yeah it's a really solid record.  God knows where it will land in the mainstream though, lots of people have lots of opinions about him and his behaviour.  
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    edited December 2020
    Some of the sadness in this record ... Mamma is pretty heartbreaking.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Ultimately I hope he confronts the demons he’s clearly exercised through this record and changes his ways. 
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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,661
    As a longtime fan until all of this, I'm not optimistic. 


  • goldrush
    goldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,802
    I don't know when - or even if - I'll want to listen to him again. 
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • facepollution
    facepollution Posts: 6,834
    goldrush said:
    I don't know when - or even if - I'll want to listen to him again. 
    Yeah it's a tricky moral dilemma, though I listen to Bowie, Zeppelin and countless other musicians whose transgressions are equally as disturbing.  
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,471
    I'll give the benefit of the doubt.  Second chances should be given.  
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,520
    he's a creep, no doubt. 

    but why are people ok with canceling him and not zeppelin, motley crue, the stones, and about every other band from the 70's and 80's?
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • clayton12
    clayton12 Athens, GA Posts: 374
    I highly recommend everyone to read the piece from Steven Hyden, about listening to Ryan. As a long time Ryan fan, who owns about everything he has put out and has seen him over ten times, and who has spent time with him (he was a dick), Steven nails my thoughts.

    https://uproxx.com/indie/will-you-ever-listen-to-ryan-adams-again/

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