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Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
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Russia to ‘verify’ U.S. moon landings on upcoming mission

https://globalnews.ca/news/4695089/moon-landing-conspiracy-theory-russia/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNational&fbclid=IwAR2GH2-c-hYGsk9S12gShC3nt5R120kjMRUbqXz9r5dlxBteQ3EEE2jUmOE

Who is going to verify Russia so we know they made it the moon???
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    They are just pissed that Drago got his ass whooped again.  
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Jason P said:
    They are just pissed that Drago got his ass whooped again.  
    LOL
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,916
    Jason P said:
    They are just pissed that Drago got his ass whooped again.  
    Hahahaha!
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,832
    Meltdown99 said:
    Russia to ‘verify’ U.S. moon landings on upcoming mission

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4695089/moon-landing-conspiracy-theory-russia/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNational&fbclid=IwAR2GH2-c-hYGsk9S12gShC3nt5R120kjMRUbqXz9r5dlxBteQ3EEE2jUmOE

    Who is going to verify Russia so we know they made it the moon???
    just wait for president idiot to tweet that he can't wait to hear of the findings of Russia and that the Fake Moon Landing in the 60's was perpetrated by the dems and liberal hollywood. 
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,713
    The question that has always come to my mind is not "Did we or did we not got there", but rather, "Why?"
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Russia to ‘verify’ U.S. moon landings on upcoming mission

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4695089/moon-landing-conspiracy-theory-russia/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNational&fbclid=IwAR2GH2-c-hYGsk9S12gShC3nt5R120kjMRUbqXz9r5dlxBteQ3EEE2jUmOE

    Who is going to verify Russia so we know they made it the moon???
    just wait for president idiot to tweet that he can't wait to hear of the findings of Russia and that the Fake Moon Landing in the 60's was perpetrated by the dems and liberal hollywood. 
    LOL...I've read since this article was written, that the Soviets might have been joking.  Who knows.  If it was a hoax, then NASA has done a masterful job of covering it up, getting some of the worlds finest test pilots to lie, not to mention the thousands of others who worked at NASA at the time who have kept quiet.  
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    brianlux said:
    The question that has always come to my mind is not "Did we or did we not got there", but rather, "Why?"
    https://youtu.be/goh2x_G0ct4
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,713
    my2hands said:
    brianlux said:
    The question that has always come to my mind is not "Did we or did we not got there", but rather, "Why?"
    https://youtu.be/goh2x_G0ct4
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    I knew you would be familiar with him Brian... one if the greatest... would love to hear him today if he were still around
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,713
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    I knew you would be familiar with him Brian... one if the greatest... would love to hear him today if he were still around
    I wish I had seen him!  I heard this one in '71 when it came out and became an instant fan:


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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Wait, a thread about Russia and Space is now a music thread.  Since when do we get off topic here at the AMT...
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,713
    Meltdown99 said:
    Wait, a thread about Russia and Space is now a music thread.  Since when do we get off topic here at the AMT...
    Follow the yellow brick road...

    :lol:
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,533
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    There are already photos proving that they're there, taken by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
    Obviously the Russians actually just want to shut up their own moonlanding deniers. This is a good thing. I don't like how this story kind of got twisted in a way.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,713
    edited November 2018
    PJ_Soul said:
    There are already photos proving that they're there, taken by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
    Obviously the Russians actually just want to shut up their own moonlanding deniers. This is a good thing. I don't like how this story kind of got twisted in a way.
    Not meaning to be obnoxious or trolling, but how do when know the photos are real?

    I doubt any of the faked moon-landing conspiracies are real but if asked "Are you 100% sure we really landed on the moon?" I would have to say, "No, maybe 90% sure".
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,533
    edited November 2018
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    There are already photos proving that they're there, taken by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
    Obviously the Russians actually just want to shut up their own moonlanding deniers. This is a good thing. I don't like how this story kind of got twisted in a way.
    Not meaning to be obnoxious or trolling, but how do when know the photos are real?

    I doubt any of the faked moon-landing conspiracies are real but if asked "Are you 100% sure we really landed on the moon?" I would have to say, "No, maybe 90% sure".
    It is up to each individual to decide if NASA as well as every other space agency on the planet is made up of a big bunch of liars or not I guess.
    I personally feel 1000% certain that the kind of conspiracy you're suggesting isn't possible. There is no possible way, under any circumstances, that a conspiracy like what you're saying, with that kind of international scope, would produce not one single whistle blower. It's literally impossible IMHO.
    I have seen all the moon landing conspiracy stuff though. It is actually very convincing, on its own (and manipulated to be so). But not nearly as convincing as the laws of probability are. Not to me anyway.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,600
    But memes and a social media campaign initiated and conducted by Putin on the ritz couldn’t possibly sway an election.
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    But memes and a social media campaign initiated and conducted by Putin on the ritz couldn’t possibly sway an election.
    Sure it could, if it could convince Hillary to ignore the midwest, union voters to flip, and swayed 7% of black voters to stay home

    Reality sucks 
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    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    But memes and a social media campaign initiated and conducted by Putin on the ritz couldn’t possibly sway an election.
    Sure it could, if it could convince Hillary to ignore the midwest, union voters to flip, and swayed 7% of black voters to stay home

    Reality sucks 
    The reality is 6-7MM former Obama voters voted Team Trump Treason or not Hillary. And social media played a roll.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,713
    PJ_Soul said:
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    There are already photos proving that they're there, taken by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
    Obviously the Russians actually just want to shut up their own moonlanding deniers. This is a good thing. I don't like how this story kind of got twisted in a way.
    Not meaning to be obnoxious or trolling, but how do when know the photos are real?

    I doubt any of the faked moon-landing conspiracies are real but if asked "Are you 100% sure we really landed on the moon?" I would have to say, "No, maybe 90% sure".
    It is up to each individual to decide if NASA as well as every other space agency on the planet is made up of a big bunch of liars or not I guess.
    I personally feel 1000% certain that the kind of conspiracy you're suggesting isn't possible. There is no possible way, under any circumstances, that a conspiracy like what you're saying, with that kind of international scope, would produce not one single whistle blower. It's literally impossible IMHO.
    I have seen all the moon landing conspiracy stuff though. It is actually very convincing, on its own (and manipulated to be so). But not nearly as convincing as the laws of probability are. Not to me anyway.
    I'll take your words into consideration and bump my number up to 95%,  hedging my bets with a little doubt.  It always comes back to that line Lou Reed borrowed, "You can't believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see."
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    But memes and a social media campaign initiated and conducted by Putin on the ritz couldn’t possibly sway an election.
    Sure it could, if it could convince Hillary to ignore the midwest, union voters to flip, and swayed 7% of black voters to stay home

    Reality sucks 
    The reality is 6-7MM former Obama voters voted Team Trump Treason or not Hillary. And social media played a roll.
    And how many of those 6-7mm were black or union household voters?

    Memes flipped union voters? Made blacks stay home for Hillary? Sorry, not buying it
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    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    my2hands said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    But memes and a social media campaign initiated and conducted by Putin on the ritz couldn’t possibly sway an election.
    Sure it could, if it could convince Hillary to ignore the midwest, union voters to flip, and swayed 7% of black voters to stay home

    Reality sucks 
    The reality is 6-7MM former Obama voters voted Team Trump Treason or not Hillary. And social media played a roll.
    And how many of those 6-7mm were black or union household voters?

    Memes flipped union voters? Made blacks stay home for Hillary? Sorry, not buying it
    I don’t care if you’re not buying what putin on the ritz bought.
     
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    Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    There are already photos proving that they're there, taken by NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter.
    Obviously the Russians actually just want to shut up their own moonlanding deniers. This is a good thing. I don't like how this story kind of got twisted in a way.
    Not meaning to be obnoxious or trolling, but how do when know the photos are real?

    I doubt any of the faked moon-landing conspiracies are real but if asked "Are you 100% sure we really landed on the moon?" I would have to say, "No, maybe 90% sure".
    That's what I am saying, it's a vicious circle ... who checks on Russians to see if they got there...
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Fair enough Watson, fair enough 

    But just a real quick question... if that program still hums along as we mostly assume... how come it didn't work a few weeks ago?

    This does not mean i'm cool with, ir question the existence of Russian efforts, or any ties to the Trump campaign if they existed, i just dont see it as the reason HRC lost the election

    Now, my question,  still,  is about our voting machines, election systems, vote tallying, and hacking. Had the concerns in 2004, still have them now. Show me votes changed, and you and I will walk on the White House with torches together Watson 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,600
    my2hands said:
    Fair enough Watson, fair enough 

    But just a real quick question... if that program still hums along as we mostly assume... how come it didn't work a few weeks ago?

    This does not mean i'm cool with, ir question the existence of Russian efforts, or any ties to the Trump campaign if they existed, i just dont see it as the reason HRC lost the election

    Now, my question,  still,  is about our voting machines, election systems, vote tallying, and hacking. Had the concerns in 2004, still have them now. Show me votes changed, and you and I will walk on the White House with torches together Watson 
    I never said it was votes changed. In fact our intelligence agencies don’t even make that claim. It was about convincing enough voters in key electoral states to vote Team Trump Treason or more importantly, not vote Hillary.

    435 House races is a much more complicated and sophisticated operation than 3 states in micro targeted counties.

    putin on the ritz spent $1MM a day at the height of that social media campaign. A mere pittance and the first dry run was brexit. Not too difficult to understand how it’s possible.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,533
    The pure hatred the right managed to drum up against Hillary Clinton through various clever means is absolutely stunning. I still can't believe that worked on people as well as it did. It's fucking embarrassing.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    We definitely went to the moon.
    No question.  It has been verified by many scientists using much more than photos.  This is the best proof:
    A mirror array placed on the moon that scientists the world over have bounced LASERs off.  Hell, it was even on Big Bang Theory lol
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    I really want Russia to say it didn't happen.  Then Trump would be forced to agree.
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    tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 39,006
    I had always wondered why with all these high powered telescopes "why you can't zoom in on the flag on the moon"?!?

    Then I read an article that discussed magnification vs resolution.

    I get it now...
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