Should I ask Agnes out on a date?

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    Well it is a byob so it is impossible. However even when I am at a restaurant with a liquor liscense I drink what I like. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    Well it is a byob so it is impossible. However even when I am at a restaurant with a liquor liscense I drink what I like. 
    Okey wait, so the places that has "byob" are places that don't offer alcohol ?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    Well it is a byob so it is impossible. However even when I am at a restaurant with a liquor liscense I drink what I like. 
    Okey wait, so the places that has "byob" are places that don't offer alcohol ?
    They offer alcohol.  When Ontario brought in "bring your own wine option", the reason given was that some restaurants don't carry a particular wine that someone wants, plus for those who make their own, this gives them the option to bring their own.  The BYOB option is limited to wine, the restaurants wanted to have that option.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    Well it is a byob so it is impossible. However even when I am at a restaurant with a liquor liscense I drink what I like. 
    Okey wait, so the places that has "byob" are places that don't offer alcohol ?
    Correct, byob is bring your own. Some places might have local wine for sale (it is a different type of liquor liscense) but I could bring wine, beer, vodka, etc...
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    Well it is a byob so it is impossible. However even when I am at a restaurant with a liquor liscense I drink what I like. 
    Okey wait, so the places that has "byob" are places that don't offer alcohol ?
    Correct, byob is bring your own. Some places might have local wine for sale (it is a different type of liquor liscense) but I could bring wine, beer, vodka, etc...
    I wonder if that's allowed in swedish restaurants that do not have alcohol selling permits. Interesting work-around if you don't have a permit for whatever reason. Hmm.

    You learn something new every day.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    No
    Corkage fee structure are for places that sell stuff but allow you to bring your own, for a fee 
    BYOB places (here at least) are places that don't have their liquor licenses...so if you want booze / wine / beer you bring it.  Some folks have fancy cases to carry their fancy wines in 
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    In Sweden you are not allowed to sell alcohol if you do not offer some kind of food. As in, places can't just sell alcohol.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,113
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    In Sweden you are not allowed to sell alcohol if you do not offer some kind of food. As in, places can't just sell alcohol.
    Breweries in New Jersey can only sell beer, no food.  Liquor laws are wacky. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    In Sweden you are not allowed to sell alcohol if you do not offer some kind of food. As in, places can't just sell alcohol.
    That could be interpreted as just selling chips, or do they mean proper meals? 
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    Meltdown99 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    In Sweden you are not allowed to sell alcohol if you do not offer some kind of food. As in, places can't just sell alcohol.
    That could be interpreted as just selling chips, or do they mean proper meals? 

    REQUIREMENTS FOR FOOD There should always be access to a varied range of cooked or otherwise prepared food. The food must be cooked in the kitchen and must not consist of only prefabricated ingredients. However, after 23:00 it can be enough with a few simple dishes.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    edited February 2019
    Yes
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    Well it is a byob so it is impossible. However even when I am at a restaurant with a liquor liscense I drink what I like. 
    Okey wait, so the places that has "byob" are places that don't offer alcohol ?
    Correct, byob is bring your own. Some places might have local wine for sale (it is a different type of liquor liscense) but I could bring wine, beer, vodka, etc...
    If a place sells alcohol (has a liquor license) you cannot bring your own alcohol into the restaurant. Not in these parts of New Jersey. If a restaurant does not have a liquor license, it is up to  them if they allow BYOB. A lot of them do, because only a certain amount of liquor licenses are allotted for each town and there are more restaurants & bars & corner stores than liquor license allotments in my one square mile municipality.

    A place has to go out of business before someone connected   the next person on the waiting list gets a liquor license. 

    I have been able to bring bottles of "fooze" (fake wine- taken from my personal dialect combining fake and booze. Fake and wine becomes "fine" and that just didn't work for me)  into some establishments that serve alcohol, but it's definitely not a given and I only have tried for special occasions. 

    I have only ever found one restaurant (on Long Island) that served dealcoholized wine while almost all sell fake beer. I don't like fake beer because I liked real beer very much. 
    Post edited by njnancy on
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    edited February 2019
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    There are people who have way better taste in wines than what a restaurant offers honestly (i have people in my family who can do WAY better than any restaurant and have a wine fridge to back it up). But the point of this being legal is to stop allowing the restaurants to crazily gouge people via their bottled wine menus if the customer doesn't want to be crazily gouged. The markup is so high that it was deemed ridiculous, basically, so the law gave consumers another option, since wine is so accepted as a part of a nice meal. Almost like a right to drink wine without being financially raped, lol. That seems like something anyone could get behind!
    Your vision of this practice doesn't meet reality. You seem to be envisioning it as a seedy kind of thing, when in fact it's the opposite.

    I did go to a BYOB Mike Watt show in Montana once. Everyone just carried their own booze into this clothing store that had been cleared out and set up with a little stage. It was very strange, and I was surprised it was legal. And there were some people there who got so fucking drunk they couldn't stand and who really caused problems during the show.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    In Sweden you are not allowed to sell alcohol if you do not offer some kind of food. As in, places can't just sell alcohol.
    What, even actual liquor stores??
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Yes
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Just picked up two nice bottles of Pinot Grigio for dinner tonight. Headed to an excellent local Italian place.  
    Isn't part of earing at "excellent" places that they recommend a wine to the dish you pick...?
    There are people who have way better taste in wines than what a restaurant offers honestly (i have people in my family who can do WAY better than any restaurant and have a wine fridge to back it up). But the point of this being legal is to stop allowing the restaurants to crazily gouge people via their bottled wine menus if the customer doesn't want to be crazily gouged. The markup is so high that it was deemed ridiculous, basically, so the law gave consumers another option, since wine is so accepted as a part of a nice meal. Almost like a right to drink wine without being financially raped, lol. That seems like something anyone could get behind!
    Your vision of this practice doesn't meet reality. You seem to be envisioning it as a seedy kind of thing, when in fact it's the opposite.

    I did go to a BYOB Mike Watt show in Montana once. Everyone just carried their own booze into this clothing store that had been cleared out and set up with a little stage. It was very strange, and I was surprised it was legal. And there were some people there who got so fucking drunk they couldn't stand and who really caused problems during the show.
    Maybe Swedish sommeliers take their jobs a little more seriously than Canuck sommeliers.

    I know that NYC/Brooklyn sommeliers turned us on to some fantastic wines back when we drank wine. There were definitely other restaurants where we'd bring our own, but akin to what S_C was saying, the convenience of having someone whose whole livelihood is basically tied to his/her knowledge of wine and pairing assist you with your choice and sometimes steering you away from your tried and true usual choices did heighten the overall dining out experience -- at least for us.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,808
    No
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    In Sweden you are not allowed to sell alcohol if you do not offer some kind of food. As in, places can't just sell alcohol.
    What, even actual liquor stores??
    Yeah, they have to also sell a fucked up version of pizza or tacos.  ;)
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    edited February 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    In Sweden you are not allowed to sell alcohol if you do not offer some kind of food. As in, places can't just sell alcohol.
    What, even actual liquor stores??
    No, I was talking about pubs etc. 

    gothenburg had an exception to this rule, a ”beer hall” that was deemed historically important. But I Wonder If they are still an exception because last time I was there I saw they offered sandwiches at the bar. Could be an AW thing more than because of a rule change Ofcourse. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    edited February 2019
    Finally hanging out with Agnes tomorrow. She might go with me to look at a cat I might airport, or pick up some shoes I bought. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Yes
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Finally hanging out with Agnes tomorrow. She might go with me to look at a cat I might adport, or pick up some shoes I bought. 
    Sounds like y'all are already married. Will she hold your purse for you while you pick up your shoes? 
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,467
    dankind said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Finally hanging out with Agnes tomorrow. She might go with me to look at a cat I might adport, or pick up some shoes I bought. 
    Sounds like y'all are already married. Will she hold your purse for you while you pick up your shoes? 
    Lucky I'm from Sweden where equality and the view of men and women have come further than this.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"

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