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Pj Given to fly = Led zep. going to california?

rocket brothersrocket brothers Posts: 4
edited April 2004 in Words and Music...Communication
When i listen to given to fly, it reminds me of Led Zeppelins Going to California. The way the song are built up ......"""""........ the way they sing ......it sounds alike....
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  • pjten77pjten77 Posts: 225
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  • AlterEgoAlterEgo Posts: 89
    The vocal melody is rather similar, and I guess the chord progression is too, but other than that I always think the similiarites between these songs are overstated. :)
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  • jimmy pjimmy p Posts: 71
    I have boths songs in my playlist right now!
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  • clkelley5v1clkelley5v1 Posts: 9
    I remember in some magazine a long time ago Mike saying someting about one of his influences being Jimmy Page and then he started talking about the riff in G2F. I don't think the comparison is that big of a stretch
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  • InnesInnes Posts: 9
    yes my wife thinks its very LZ
  • porch_23porch_23 Posts: 3
    Led Zep tried to sue Pearl Jam for copyright!!!
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  • AlterEgoAlterEgo Posts: 89
    Here's the tabs for both songs. I once had someone tell me that the guitar parts for these two songs were the same. I don't think so. There are a few similarities, but nothing remotely close to a copyright violation or anything. In fact, nothing where I would even notice the similarity from the guitar alone.

    http://www.thetabworld.com/Led_Zeppelin__Going_To_California_guitar_tab.html

    http://www.giventowail.com/107/tabs/pj/yield/given.txt
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  • ecopeecope Posts: 89
    yeah, I don't hear it.
  • {[No_Code}]{[No_Code}] Posts: 4,059
    i don't think so
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  • TakenTaken Posts: 2
    They do sound somewhat similar, but Given to Fly is much more dynamic than Going to California
  • Pearl Jam and toastPearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    doesnt remind me at all

    i have hotel california on tape for some reason, good album
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  • RolinRolin Posts: 1
    Well, the songs sound different to me. Its not like ' he's so fine.. { doo da lang.. doo da lang.. } and My Sweet Lord, now is it?

    PS: Tangerine by Led Zep is also an awesome song, wanna draw a PJ equivalent? lol
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  • SoFaithfullSoFaithfull Posts: 13
    Originally posted by porch_23
    Led Zep tried to sue Pearl Jam for copyright!!!

    is that true and if so can you prove it?
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  • ved_zepved_zep Posts: 50
    YES, they definately sound very alike. the first time i heard going to california, i immediately pinned it to given to fly.
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  • RogueulaRogueula Posts: 7
    Originally posted by SoFaithfull
    is that true and if so can you prove it?


    no he cant. because its not true. Robert Plant came out and stated they were flattered by the use of their riff... and pearl jam has acknowledged the songs are very similar...


    5:08 Seconds Into Red Mosquito (track 6) Oslo Norway Disc 1 Boot... eddie says
    "This next song has one of the most beautiful melodies ever written and, uh, its called 'Given to fly to california"

    and then Given to Fly is track 7.


    I beleive that puts to rest any further doubt regarding this issue.
  • AlterEgoAlterEgo Posts: 89
    Originally posted by Rogueula
    no he cant. because its not true. Robert Plant came out and stated they were flattered by the use of their riff... and pearl jam has acknowledged the songs are very similar...


    5:08 Seconds Into Red Mosquito (track 6) Oslo Norway Disc 1 Boot... eddie says
    "This next song has one of the most beautiful melodies ever written and, uh, its called 'Given to fly to california"

    and then Given to Fly is track 7.


    I beleive that puts to rest any further doubt regarding this issue.
    I think to a certain extent it's a joke, since the media made such a big deal of the similarites. Because if you look at the tabs I put links to earlier, they're not that similar.
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  • RogueulaRogueula Posts: 7
    Originally posted by AlterEgo
    I think to a certain extent it's a joke, since the media made such a big deal of the similarites. Because if you look at the tabs I put links to earlier, they're not that similar.

    tabs arent music. tabs are ways to make songs sound like songs... Im sure i can go find two tabs on different sites that are both for Given to Fly, and they wont look that similar.


    i would agree with your point about it being a joke had he not stated that "its one of the most beautiful melodies" line... He wouldnt say that about one of their own songs, especially without attributing it to Mike, Stone or Jeff (he would never be that ego-tistical unless he was directing it as a complement...

    also, the its less likely to be a joke because it was the 2000 Tour. (as opposed to the 98 yield tour). so it was a moot point by then... and he was in Oslo, Norway, where strikes me as an odd place to make a joke that most of the crowd may not have even gotten...
  • JesterJester Posts: 4
    Originally posted by Rogueula
    tabs arent music. tabs are ways to make songs sound like songs... Im sure i can go find two tabs on different sites that are both for Given to Fly, and they wont look that similar.


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    good point but how many other sites have credit?
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  • RogueulaRogueula Posts: 7
    damn it, did anyone even go listen to their oslo boot to confirm?

    i had to search through all my Euro boots cause i couldnt remember which one it was on :(
  • mblaylockmblaylock Posts: 9
    It was definitely an issue...I remember reading Pete Townshend talked to Jimmy Page so they dropped the whole lawsuit idea.

    Here's a small article on it:

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431134/03251998/page_jimmy.jhtml

    I also remembered reading somewhere that Stone Gossard's response was "I have two words for Jimmy Page: Muddy Waters."

    I liked that...
  • NothingbetterNothingbetter Posts: 570
    Never occurred to me.
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  • RogueulaRogueula Posts: 7
    Originally posted by mblaylock
    It was definitely an issue...I remember reading Pete Townshend talked to Jimmy Page so they dropped the whole lawsuit idea.

    Here's a small article on it:

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431134/03251998/page_jimmy.jhtml

    I also remembered reading somewhere that Stone Gossard's response was "I have two words for Jimmy Page: Muddy Waters."

    I liked that...

    and also mtv has reported in the past that jpj was in the studio with page, and this and that...

    mtv throws shit against the wall, just to see what sticks. just like local radio stations...
  • RogueulaRogueula Posts: 7
    Originally posted by mblaylock
    It was definitely an issue...I remember reading Pete Townshend talked to Jimmy Page so they dropped the whole lawsuit idea.

    Here's a small article on it:

    http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1431134/03251998/page_jimmy.jhtml

    I also remembered reading somewhere that Stone Gossard's response was "I have two words for Jimmy Page: Muddy Waters."

    I liked that...

    and also mtv has reported in the past that jpj was in the studio with page, and this and that...

    mtv throws shit against the wall, just to see what sticks. just like local radio stations...
  • InnesInnes Posts: 9
    the finest coincidece



    rifff is the same

    where is the respect?
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