My story dealing with several horrible entitled “railbirds” in GA at Wrigley 2

Gvn2fly

There are flaws to this for sure.  Always will be.  OnSaturday my wife and I got in line 8 am. Got second row just right of center. Had aahand on the rail at first but quickly became second row. The couple directly in front of us on the rail we're drinking at Murphy's all day, saw that the GA line started moving so they cut in and got their rail spot .

DirtyFrankAndBeans

F Me In The Brain said:

You should be able to stay where you are.

Anyone who tries to tell you differently is being a cockhead.

That being stated...I would likely have moved back as well.  As much as I would hate it, enjoying the show is the most important thing.If some bag of entitled shit is going to do everything they can to fuck with you, it is not worth it.

I am on Team All Reserved Seating as well -- and not because I would not like GA, it is more to give the bird to people like the ones you describe. 

You cannot just take anything you want and then clap when Pearl Jam speaks about the causes that they speak about. 

Well said sir!!  I’m pretty sure that’s why they came out early with mind your manners!!  These Fn people are the rudest people I’ve ever encountered and Ed really hates these type of people and here they are always up front!

SpinTheLastExit

DirtyFrankAndBeans said:

F Me In The Brain said:

You should be able to stay where you are.

Anyone who tries to tell you differently is being a cockhead.

That being stated...I would likely have moved back as well.  As much as I would hate it, enjoying the show is the most important thing.If some bag of entitled shit is going to do everything they can to fuck with you, it is not worth it.

I am on Team All Reserved Seating as well -- and not because I would not like GA, it is more to give the bird to people like the ones you describe. 

You cannot just take anything you want and then clap when Pearl Jam speaks about the causes that they speak about. 

Well said sir!!  I’m pretty sure that’s why they came out early with mind your manners!!  These Fn people are the rudest people I’ve ever encountered and Ed really hates these type of people and here they are always up front!

He must be sick of seeing the same people over and over again too.

bbiggs

MayDay10 said:

I see the same (several) people on rail at most/every show.  Its a sickness

Wonder if the band gets tired of seeing the same faces. I would. 

pjl44

PJ_Soul said:

pjl44 said:

Team All Reserved Seating 2019

hrd2imgn said:

pjl44 said:

Team All Reserved Seating 2019

wasn't any better, I was an aisle seat and all nigh long a parade of people coming and standing right in front of me with no regard since it was the aisle.

Go Beavers

This is a good moral question. I would think returning to the previous spot is the right thing to do. Because of the rain delay, you waived this obligation combined with the herd mentality where you see all these others stealing spots. That still shouldn’t change your own rules though. Sometimes the group rules work well for everyone  E.g. allowing people to return to their spot after going to the john and getting beers. 

tempo_n_groove

GA is General Admission means No assigned areas.  You do not own your spot but should respect your neighbors.

sissonp33

Sorry to hear about the hassle up front. I haven’t fought for position in years and don’t miss it, finally talked my wife into GA for MT last week and we had an awesome show on the back barrier.

I was kind of happy for the GA redo just for the fact that it gave people a chance to get closer based on something other than the ability to camp out in line all day. I feel like it’s always the same people on the rail, so if they had to watch from a few feet further away that’s okay by me. I got in line 10 minutes before the gate opened and still ended up about 20 people deep center stage, only lost 10 or 15 feet after reentry, no biggie. Surrounded by good people before and after the delay, more so than a lot of shows I’ve been to. Aside for the clamor for the rail, I think the storm provided a little extra camaraderie for the crowd as a whole. 

Thanks to all those who had fun and respect all night...it ended up being worth it!

smarchee

fuck these rail rats, I hope Ed recognizes these same faces and NEVER EVER thinks about offering them a tambo.   These elitists embarrass the fan base

P34RL J4MM3R

That dude and his 6'-5" son were very annoying.  They really pissed off about 50 people just constantly pushing up to the front.  I tried to block him for about 10 minutes, then he just went back and around and pushed his way in.  He ended up 2 people over from me and just kept looking at me and smiling like "HAHA, I got up here anyway."  Total tool.  I would never act that way.  I would never act that way when my children were watching....I'd be mortified to treat many fellow fans like that.

darwinstheory

bbiggs said:

MayDay10 said:

I see the same (several) people on rail at most/every show.  Its a sickness

Wonder if the band gets tired of seeing the same faces. I would. 

No. They don't. These crazies start the lines days in advance. That kind of shit gets publicity. No such thing as bad pub.

Then Ed mad a point of getting the Rizzo Jersey on night 1 to the Release guy from Let's Play Two. And they made a point of showing the old Aussie dude from LPT several times. Think these guys aren't going to go for rail every time? 

SmallestOceans

Sounds like you were surrounded by a buncha evil little goats. I was surrounded by them on all sides in Krakow...no place to hide. Solution...move (but not necessarily back).  

ForceofNature101

That is why I usually just go for 4-5 rows back.  Easy, no hassle, only have to get to the GA line like an hour before the show

The more I read on Facebook groups and this site, the more people I hear about that just have rude manners and are set on fucking up other people's experiences for a right they only think they have but don't actually have

BCBA

bbiggs said:

MayDay10 said:

I see the same (several) people on rail at most/every show.  Its a sickness

Wonder if the band gets tired of seeing the same faces. I would. 

I believe this is why they chose to go with a lottery based ga system in the first place.  

I recognize several of their faces when i see the screen video and also social media posts by members.  There is one girl in particular who is front and center every single show.  No clue how these people can procure ga/euro tix for every single show on the up and up.  

bootlegger10

The repeat offenders are just flat out selfish people.  Only so many shows a year and only so many cities, and some of these folks have to be front and center every time.  Selfish.

ForceofNature101

Pearl Jam seemingly attracts so many nutjobs in terms of GA line

You have pushers and shovers, you have people making unofficial number queues and line queues, etc.  It is just out of hand 

darwinstheory

bootlegger10 said:

The repeat offenders are just flat out selfish people.  Only so many shows a year and only so many cities, and some of these folks have to be front and center every time.  Selfish.

At least we never have to wonder if they let women and children get served first at family gatherings. 

I always sit back and watch for that during gatherings. 

Go Beavers

ForceofNature101 said:

Pearl Jam seemingly attracts so many nutjobs in terms of GA line

You have pushers and shovers, you have people making unofficial number queues and line queues, etc.  It is just out of hand 

Seems to work out pretty well I think. Get there early for rail. Push and shove ay-holes aren’t very common. I think we do pretty well as a group. the number thing came up as a problem in one or two euro shows this year. 

ForceofNature101

Go Beavers said:

ForceofNature101 said:

Pearl Jam seemingly attracts so many nutjobs in terms of GA line

You have pushers and shovers, you have people making unofficial number queues and line queues, etc.  It is just out of hand 

Seems to work out pretty well I think. Get there early for rail. Push and shove ay-holes aren’t very common. I think we do pretty well as a group. the number thing came up as a problem in one or two euro shows this year. 

For sure I don't mean to say that PJ fans as a whole are bad or that the GA experience is all bad, but sometimes you hear about stories like this often and it just makes me wonder how these few crazy PJ fans affect so many people's concert experiences for the worse because they have some imaginary "right" to be at the rail.

At least 10C made a statement about the unofficial numbering systems I think that was a good move

MayDay10

ForceofNature101 said:

Go Beavers said:

ForceofNature101 said:

Pearl Jam seemingly attracts so many nutjobs in terms of GA line

You have pushers and shovers, you have people making unofficial number queues and line queues, etc.  It is just out of hand 

Seems to work out pretty well I think. Get there early for rail. Push and shove ay-holes aren’t very common. I think we do pretty well as a group. the number thing came up as a problem in one or two euro shows this year. 

For sure I don't mean to say that PJ fans as a whole are bad or that the GA experience is all bad, but sometimes you hear about stories like this often and it just makes me wonder how these few crazy PJ fans affect so many people's concert experiences for the worse because they have some imaginary "right" to be at the rail.

At least 10C made a statement about the unofficial numbering systems I think that was a good move

the problem with these rules, is they become selective, and do not favor those who follow them


example:  No lining up before a certain time.  Meanwhile there was a line someone created elsewhere before the sanctioned line.