Trump Admin may allow the return of asbestos to manufacturing.

josevolution

lol yes you know what fuck any regulations this country has been walked back 20 yrs in less than two and we deserve it ! It voted a subhuman for its president I expected nothing less ...you know what I say to you guys Deal with it !

cincybearcat

brianlux said:

cincybearcat said:

brianlux said:

unsung said:

There have always been uses for asbestos.  It is only harmful when friable.  Many industrial applications exist and are used safely everyday.

You have an interesting way of defending some really strange things, unsung. 

He’s actually correct. The only issue is demo of those materials. Which is why, in my opinion, it’s not a great thing to use in many cases even if safe at the time. Cause it does pose a serious risk that could be unknown when demo’ing

But that illustrates my point which is that the stuff is not permanently bound up.  There are a lot of things that can release asbestos or any toxic material- abuse, breakage, improper demolition, earthquakes etc, etc. 

For god's sake, why do we take chances with this or any other toxic shit?  I just don't get it.  Are we indeed the Suicide Species?  I think we may be.  I really do. 

Yes I tend to agree, not worth the risk. 

Meltdown99

Sure bet you guys wish you had recall legislation...

Because at this point I think you are stuck with him until 2020 or 2024...

j1kotwic

Fiberglass exposure is also a very serious health and safety risk. Effects are similar to asbestos. It must have similar properties of asbestos if it's a suitable alternative. There are many scientific studies that support this.  Do we need to get rid of fiberglass?  

I don't mean to trivialize your concern im just offering my perspective.  Im not pro asbestos or anything. But depending on what they are using it for the properties of asbestos could potentially make a material/part safer. Maybe the the benefit outweighs the risk. That doesn't mean they should start insulating houses with it again. That would be stupid. But maybe there is a specific application where it makes sense. Especially if there is a way to use it where it will not become friable in the future. 

There's millions of toxic chemicals we handle on a daily basis. Gasoline, oil, coolant, chemical solvents, natural gas, cleaning chemicals, chemicals used in wastewater treatment, the list goes on forever. I don't think it's a matter of banning toxic materials because they were mishandled in the past. It's a matter of handling these chemicals safely that will minimize risk. Honestly these chemicals make the world go round. We would be in deep trouble without them. 

Again, I don't mean to trivialize the subject, especially if you just lost a loved one due to exposure to hazardous materials. I'm just offering my perspective since I handle all kinds of hazardous materials on a daily basis and I take this stuff seriously.  

Meltdown99

Fuck I'm still shaking my head at the the self righteous ten clubber who blamed the asbestos industry on our former PM Stephen Harper ... even though the last 2 asbestos mines closed under his watch .... holy fuck ... thats a page out of PM Fluff ... don't accept responsibility deflect...

Meltdown99

The reason we still have cancer in the world is because Stephen Harper did not put enough resources into a cure ... LMFAO.

PJ_Soul

Meltdown99 said:

Fuck I'm still shaking my head at the the self righteous ten clubber who blamed the asbestos industry on our former PM Stephen Harper ... even though the last 2 asbestos mines closed under his watch .... holy fuck ... thats a page out of PM Fluff ... don't accept responsibility deflect...

You can just name me, but you better watch it with the personal insults- you'll get yourself banned.

I did not blame the asbestos industry on Stephen Harper, lol. I said that conservative leaders love the asbestos industry, which is absolutely true when it came to Stephen Harper. He was pro-asbestos. That is the only claim I made. The only reason anything got closed under him is because his stance on the matter was too strongly opposed.

stuckinline

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