'The Home Shows' X 'The Away Shows' Merch

lolobugg

KW6232 said:

dankind said:

KW6232 said:

Hmmm this poster looks familiar to the PJ wrigley. 

Someone who's more social media savvy than yours truly should send a screenshot of that to Sean Cliver. If someone ripped off his image without his knowledge to promote this Travis Thompson gig, then a cease and desist might be in order.

My thought was Sean Cliver did the poster 
and was just lazy on this one. But that is just a guess. It could be a rip-off also. I’ve been unable to find out who the artist is. 

one half of the Thompson twins?

dankind

lolobugg said:

KW6232 said:

dankind said:

KW6232 said:

Hmmm this poster looks familiar to the PJ wrigley. 

Someone who's more social media savvy than yours truly should send a screenshot of that to Sean Cliver. If someone ripped off his image without his knowledge to promote this Travis Thompson gig, then a cease and desist might be in order.

My thought was Sean Cliver did the poster 
and was just lazy on this one. But that is just a guess. It could be a rip-off also. I’ve been unable to find out who the artist is. 

one half of the Thompson twins?

It very well could be a Cliver mail-in, but I figure it's worth alerting him just in case it's not.

Milestone

dankind said:

It very well could be a Cliver mail-in, but I figure it's worth alerting him just in case it's not.

Neat.  I was getting worried that someone was going to get away with this.  

deadendp

Milestone said:

dankind said:

Someone who's more social media savvy than yours truly should send a screenshot of that to Sean Cliver. If someone ripped off his image without his knowledge to promote this Travis Thompson gig, then a cease and desist might be in order.

Artists rip off other artists all the time. And use images, persona likenesses, city buildings, businesses ect, all the time. 
For instance, that's obviously an Old English 40 ounce bottle of beer in the image. Should we notify the beer company?

While we're at it....isn't EMEK's Rome poster a little bit too similar to Ames Metallica?  I don't know.  Art imitates art.

And a lot of artists are unable to defend themselves against such theft because that is money that they do not have.  I have seen artist friends have to close down their studios over things like that.  

I am an artist.  As an artist, employed by an artist and working at one of the top 10 galleries in the nation, it is considered uncool and we have fired artists for that.  

Art can imitate art.  However, art shouldn't steal from someone's livelihood.

Do not buy stolen image art.  Do not create stolen image art.  

Milestone

deadendp said:

Art can imitate art.  However, art shouldn't steal from someone's livelihood.

Do not buy stolen image art.  Do not create stolen image art.  

Fair enough.  I do feel that an incredibly high % of concert posters are borrowed themes.  That's what makes them so clever and interesting in some cases.  One of my favorite Ames posters of all time is Pittsburgh 2003, where it's an obvious "borrowed" image of MAD Magazine's Alfred E. Neuman.  Frankly, I thought that was a generally accepted principle in concert art....to make a play on personal images, corporate images, cartoon characters, city landmarks, (i.e. copywritten or trademarked, but recognizable themes).  The reason I thought the blatant "borrowing" of ideas were generally accepted is because it's so common for concert art to borrow themes. 

If I held true to not buying stolen image art, I may as well stop collecting concert posters. Especially the ones that borrow or steal from our Native American friends (plenty of those in Pearl Jam and Grateful Dead art which I collect).

Hell, one of the most coveted PJ posters of all time (San Diego 1998) is a blatant rip off of "The Endless Summer" movie poster. But that one is considered "cool" rather than stolen art.  Doesn't that fit into the "stealing from someone's livlihood" category?  I wonder how the Transformers creators feel about Ames 2015 effort. How about the Ames Donkey Kong poster?  Cracker Jacks anyone?  Should I continue?  
Concert posters = stolen art, concepts and images in many cases.  It's part of what makes it fun.

dankind

Milestone said:

deadendp said:

Art can imitate art.  However, art shouldn't steal from someone's livelihood.

Do not buy stolen image art.  Do not create stolen image art.  

Fair enough.  I do feel that an incredibly high % of concert posters are borrowed themes.  That's what makes them so clever and interesting in some cases.  One of my favorite Ames posters of all time is Pittsburgh 2003, where it's an obvious "borrowed" image of MAD Magazine's Alfred E. Neuman.  Frankly, I thought that was a generally accepted principle in concert art....to make a play on personal images, corporate images, cartoon characters, city landmarks, (i.e. copywritten or trademarked, but recognizable themes).  The reason I thought the blatant "borrowing" of ideas were generally accepted is because it's so common for concert art to borrow themes. 

If I held true to not buying stolen image art, I may as well stop collecting concert posters. Especially the ones that borrow or steal from our Native American friends (plenty of those in Pearl Jam and Grateful Dead art which I collect).

Hell, one of the most coveted PJ posters of all time (San Diego 1998) is a blatant rip off of "The Endless Summer" movie poster. But that one is considered "cool" rather than stolen art.  Doesn't that fit into the "stealing from someone's livlihood" category?  I wonder how the Transformers creators feel about Ames 2015 effort. How about the Ames Donkey Kong poster?  Cracker Jacks anyone?  Should I continue?  
Concert posters = stolen art, concepts and images in many cases.  It's part of what makes it fun.

My best guess in nearly every case that you’ve mentioned (and then some) is that the poster artist sought permission from, and was granted permission by, the original artist of, or corporation that owns the rights to, the imagery to which an homage was paid.

Of course, I could be wrong. It doesn’t happen often, but it happens. 

on2legs

Milestone said:

dankind said:

It very well could be a Cliver mail-in, but I figure it's worth alerting him just in case it's not.

Neat.  I was getting worried that someone was going to get away with this.  

Lol!!!!!

on2legs

dankind said:

Milestone said:

deadendp said:

Art can imitate art.  However, art shouldn't steal from someone's livelihood.

Do not buy stolen image art.  Do not create stolen image art.  

Fair enough.  I do feel that an incredibly high % of concert posters are borrowed themes.  That's what makes them so clever and interesting in some cases.  One of my favorite Ames posters of all time is Pittsburgh 2003, where it's an obvious "borrowed" image of MAD Magazine's Alfred E. Neuman.  Frankly, I thought that was a generally accepted principle in concert art....to make a play on personal images, corporate images, cartoon characters, city landmarks, (i.e. copywritten or trademarked, but recognizable themes).  The reason I thought the blatant "borrowing" of ideas were generally accepted is because it's so common for concert art to borrow themes. 

If I held true to not buying stolen image art, I may as well stop collecting concert posters. Especially the ones that borrow or steal from our Native American friends (plenty of those in Pearl Jam and Grateful Dead art which I collect).

Hell, one of the most coveted PJ posters of all time (San Diego 1998) is a blatant rip off of "The Endless Summer" movie poster. But that one is considered "cool" rather than stolen art.  Doesn't that fit into the "stealing from someone's livlihood" category?  I wonder how the Transformers creators feel about Ames 2015 effort. How about the Ames Donkey Kong poster?  Cracker Jacks anyone?  Should I continue?  
Concert posters = stolen art, concepts and images in many cases.  It's part of what makes it fun.

My best guess in nearly every case that you’ve mentioned (and then some) is that the poster artist sought permission from, and was granted permission by, the original artist of, or corporation that owns the rights to, the imagery to which an homage was paid.

Of course, I could be wrong. It doesn’t happen often, but it happens. 

It’s ironic that we are speaking about ripping off his artwork when the whole design was lifted from the 1975 Topps baseball card set. 

Milestone

on2legs said:

It’s ironic that we are speaking about ripping off his artwork when the whole design was lifted from the 1975 Topps baseball card set. 

Art, imitating art, imitating art. The cycle continues. Good call....I wouldn't have noticed that. 

dankind

Milestone said:

on2legs said:

It’s ironic that we are speaking about ripping off his artwork when the whole design was lifted from the 1975 Topps baseball card set. 

Art, imitating art, imitating art. The cycle continues. Good call....I wouldn't have noticed that. 

And permission was likely sought and granted. 

Milestone

dankind said:

And permission was likely sought and granted. 

So should this Thompson artist seek permission from Topps or Cliver? Or both?  Not being a smart ass....I'm truly interested.

Topps for the original design.  Cliver for the skull and colors theme?  Klausen for the sickle theme, which really resembles Klausen Washington DC from years past....
Old English beer label?  What about that?

on2legs

dankind said:

Milestone said:

on2legs said:

It’s ironic that we are speaking about ripping off his artwork when the whole design was lifted from the 1975 Topps baseball card set. 

Art, imitating art, imitating art. The cycle continues. Good call....I wouldn't have noticed that. 

And permission was likely sought and granted. 

 I highly doubt Topps would give him permission to piss off half the consumer public by putting an anti trump image in their design.  

dankind

Milestone said:

dankind said:

And permission was likely sought and granted. 

So should this Thompson artist seek permission from Topps or Cliver? Or both?  Not being a smart ass....I'm truly interested.

We aren’t entirely sure that permission wasn’t granted—also, it could be a Cliver mail-in, though I doubt that—but I’d guess start with Cliver and see what he says about Topps. 

on2legs

dankind said:

Milestone said:

dankind said:

And permission was likely sought and granted. 

So should this Thompson artist seek permission from Topps or Cliver? Or both?  Not being a smart ass....I'm truly interested.

We aren’t entirely sure that permission wasn’t granted—also, it could be a Cliver mail-in, though I doubt that—but I’d guess start with Cliver and see what he says about Topps. 

Zero chance he bothered to clear it with Topps. 

Redrumh2o

Gern Blansten said:

ryanphishes said:

Mumford variant landed yesterday.  My postman left it in the mailbox in the rain.  It must've been my guy's day off because he brings every package to the porch.

Now I think I'm just waiting on Klausen Boston and the wine.

Same thing happened to me a month ago with THREE posters in one tube (Mumford,Brown,Williams).  Same story, never been an issue before so we're thinking our regular person was on vacation or something.

We called the post office and they said they should definitely NOT leave it hanging out of the mailbox.  Such bullshit

My posters ALWAYS get left sticking out in the mailbox. I have to have them shipped to my mom's house as it is the only way for them to be delivered correctly. I have complained to the postmaster many times. Also when I get a package that needs to be signed for, they always leave the slip in the mailbox and do not attempt to get the signature....it's the worst!

ryanphishes

Print was line luckily.  It really was an isolated incident.  

Wine shipping notice today too!  I don't think it'll fit in the mailbox

pjl44

on2legs said:

dankind said:

Milestone said:

dankind said:

And permission was likely sought and granted. 

So should this Thompson artist seek permission from Topps or Cliver? Or both?  Not being a smart ass....I'm truly interested.

We aren’t entirely sure that permission wasn’t granted—also, it could be a Cliver mail-in, though I doubt that—but I’d guess start with Cliver and see what he says about Topps. 

Zero chance he bothered to clear it with Topps. 

I'll second this. The Fenway Ames Jackelope is a riff on the '89 Topps baseball design, too. Same thing...no way they're getting any sort of clearance.

tempo_n_groove

dankind said:

KW6232 said:

Hmmm this poster looks familiar to the PJ wrigley. 

Someone who's more social media savvy than yours truly should send a screenshot of that to Sean Cliver. If someone ripped off his image without his knowledge to promote this Travis Thompson gig, then a cease and desist might be in order.

Or this one?!?


They are all complementing the Topps baseball card design of 1975.

Mike D88

...Awful lot of not Pearl Jam 'The Home Shows' X 'The Away Shows' merch on this page.

JT167846

Got a notification that my Fenway 2 boot shipped. Took a fair while as I ordered it the day it went on sale but I did order Milan and Padova too. Will let you know when it gets to Wellington but I'm sure most of those of you who ordered it the day it went on sale will get it sooner than I.