Alex Jones/Info Wars removed from FB, youtube, Apple, Spotify

unsung

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Anyone saying Infowars is just a "right wing" outlet is either misled or are purposely misleading. It's a whacko conspiracy outlet purposely trying to divide and outrage people by spewing outright hatred. There are no right wing outlets being shut down. 

Exactly

How do some of you guys not know about Alex Jones and infowars? Been asleep since 9/11?

Unsung is clearly showing he was a devout listener, probably even harrassed the victims families of Sandy Hook?

https://people.com/crime/sandy-hook-alex-jones-lawsuit-hearing/

my2hands,

I tried to listen to him back in 08, one time though.  I couldn’t take the endless product pitches of Super Male Vitality more than the first ten times.

But, all means, continue on.  

unsung

benjs said:

unsung said:

I'm guessing he was removed because he said something shocking and unfathomable to decent people, right?

Back in the day we used to just change the channel.

Back then, everything you saw was curated by individuals (network executives) who already had decided they wanted you to see it. You may have had the ability to change the channel, but you still weren't in charge of what you saw and what perspectives you were exposed to. The fact that now things can be self-published onto a network who then catch and remove unwanted uploads after the fact doesn't change this reality. In other words, there has never been socially- or corporately- mandated freedom of speech, nor should there be. Government tells us we have to accept that people can make ugly statements, but our free society encourages us to remind individuals that those statements are ugly, or to withdraw our wallets to only allow revenue to those whose values we believe in.

Personally, I think removing Alex Jones is a duct tape fix. The real fix would be teaching citizens to think critically so they knew better than to accept his unsubstantiated bullshit, and allowed his nonsense to fade away into obsolescence or be condemned loudly as garbage.

benjs said:

unsung said:

I'm guessing he was removed because he said something shocking and unfathomable to decent people, right?

Back in the day we used to just change the channel.

I don’t need government to decide what I should watch anymore than I need Mark Zuckerberg to do the job.

bootlegger10

I'm not going to cry an tears over this. 

We talk about free speech and how it is protected from prosecution by the government, but so much of our speech is over the internet now, and private companies control the internet.  These private companies are huge (Apple, Google, etc...) and are known to tilt search results to fit their objectives.  Should private companies whose business model is to host the public's videos or websites (and demolish the competition so they receive most of the web traffic), be subject to the same free speech rules that the US government is subject to?  Today 98% of can agree that InfoWars is despicable and love that it is off these sites, but the next time it could be something that does not serve the public good but the corporations.

josevolution

Maybe Alex Jones can just go out on the street with a bull horn to spew his nonsense that way no one can stop him ..

my2hands

josevolution said:

Maybe Alex Jones can just go out on the street with a bull horn to spew his nonsense that way no one can stop him ..

Like the Christian psychos in Charlotte 2013 using a bullhorn telling me rock music is evil

I knew we were getting the debut of Getaway that night lol

josevolution

my2hands said:

josevolution said:

Maybe Alex Jones can just go out on the street with a bull horn to spew his nonsense that way no one can stop him ..

Like the Christian psychos in Charlotte 2013 using a bullhorn telling me rock music is evil

I knew we were getting the debut of Getaway that night lol

lol yeah no doubt bunch of freaks trying to shove religion down people's throats ..

benjs

unsung said:

benjs said:

unsung said:

I'm guessing he was removed because he said something shocking and unfathomable to decent people, right?

Back in the day we used to just change the channel.

Back then, everything you saw was curated by individuals (network executives) who already had decided they wanted you to see it. You may have had the ability to change the channel, but you still weren't in charge of what you saw and what perspectives you were exposed to. The fact that now things can be self-published onto a network who then catch and remove unwanted uploads after the fact doesn't change this reality. In other words, there has never been socially- or corporately- mandated freedom of speech, nor should there be. Government tells us we have to accept that people can make ugly statements, but our free society encourages us to remind individuals that those statements are ugly, or to withdraw our wallets to only allow revenue to those whose values we believe in.

Personally, I think removing Alex Jones is a duct tape fix. The real fix would be teaching citizens to think critically so they knew better than to accept his unsubstantiated bullshit, and allowed his nonsense to fade away into obsolescence or be condemned loudly as garbage.

I don’t need government to decide what I should watch anymore than I need Mark Zuckerberg to do the job.

'Back in the day', you changed the channel, and each and every one of them was curated by someone who decided what you see and what you don't. Today, you go onto Facebook, which is curated by someone who decides what you see and what you don't. Nowhere did I mention government interference, except to say they shouldn't interfere. 

PJ_Soul

Good. I think Alex Jones = hate speech often enough that I don't even think the 1st Amendment should be an issue even if it were an issue here, which it isn't at all anyhow.
Alex Jones is a piece of shit, and anyone who likes him is also a piece of shit.

Merkin Baller

“I mean, if you can’t use a major media platform to claim that murdered children were faking it in order to scare up controversy so that you can sell toxic dietary supplements to scared senior citizens, then what did our forefathers even die for?” - Mikel Jollett 

oftenreading

Merkin Baller said:

lol
https://twitter.com/popehat/status/1026863452751421441?s=21

So, all the people who post on here about how ridiculous it is to compare Trump’s WH to the beginnings of the Nazi regime will of course also be quick to post how ridiculous it is to compare removing Alex Jones from YouTube to a White Kristallnacht, right? Right? 

brianlux

Poor baby!

tbergs

Are we still giving energy to the wasteland known as Infowars? Who cares!

The Juggler

unsung said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Anyone saying Infowars is just a "right wing" outlet is either misled or are purposely misleading. It's a whacko conspiracy outlet purposely trying to divide and outrage people by spewing outright hatred. There are no right wing outlets being shut down. 

Exactly

How do some of you guys not know about Alex Jones and infowars? Been asleep since 9/11?

Unsung is clearly showing he was a devout listener, probably even harrassed the victims families of Sandy Hook?

https://people.com/crime/sandy-hook-alex-jones-lawsuit-hearing/

my2hands,

I tried to listen to him back in 08, one time though.  I couldn’t take the endless product pitches of Super Male Vitality more than the first ten times.

But, all means, continue on.  

OF COURSE. It was the ads that offended Unsung—not the whole “claiming murdered kids were really child actors” thing. Haha—WTF

You can’t write this stuff. 

Merkin Baller

The Juggler said:

unsung said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Anyone saying Infowars is just a "right wing" outlet is either misled or are purposely misleading. It's a whacko conspiracy outlet purposely trying to divide and outrage people by spewing outright hatred. There are no right wing outlets being shut down. 

Exactly

How do some of you guys not know about Alex Jones and infowars? Been asleep since 9/11?

Unsung is clearly showing he was a devout listener, probably even harrassed the victims families of Sandy Hook?

https://people.com/crime/sandy-hook-alex-jones-lawsuit-hearing/

my2hands,

I tried to listen to him back in 08, one time though.  I couldn’t take the endless product pitches of Super Male Vitality more than the first ten times.

But, all means, continue on.  

OF COURSE. It was the ads that offended Unsung—not the whole “claiming murdered kids were really child actors” thing. Haha—WTF

You can’t write this stuff. 

lol

my2hands

The Juggler said:

unsung said:

my2hands said:

The Juggler said:

Anyone saying Infowars is just a "right wing" outlet is either misled or are purposely misleading. It's a whacko conspiracy outlet purposely trying to divide and outrage people by spewing outright hatred. There are no right wing outlets being shut down. 

Exactly

How do some of you guys not know about Alex Jones and infowars? Been asleep since 9/11?

Unsung is clearly showing he was a devout listener, probably even harrassed the victims families of Sandy Hook?

https://people.com/crime/sandy-hook-alex-jones-lawsuit-hearing/

my2hands,

I tried to listen to him back in 08, one time though.  I couldn’t take the endless product pitches of Super Male Vitality more than the first ten times.

But, all means, continue on.  

OF COURSE. It was the ads that offended Unsung—not the whole “claiming murdered kids were really child actors” thing. Haha—WTF

You can’t write this stuff. 

I wasnt going to say it

Kev - Coat and Keys

So I just cut n pasted this from infowars terms of service:

If you violate these rules, your posts and/or user name will be deleted. Remember: you are a guest here. It is not censorship if you violate the rules and your post is deleted. All civilizations have rules and if you violate them you can expect to be ostracized from the tribe.

So even they agree with the decent people and they should be banned. Thread done (add sarcastic smiley face!)

Halifax2TheMax

You’re right, you can’t write this shit. More manufactured faux outrage.

HughFreakingDillon

a few different opinions on the matter. 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/06/opinions/infowars-opinion-roundup/index.html

my2hands

Kev - Coat and Keys said:

So I just cut n pasted this from infowars terms of service:

If you violate these rules, your posts and/or user name will be deleted. Remember: you are a guest here. It is not censorship if you violate the rules and your post is deleted. All civilizations have rules and if you violate them you can expect to be ostracized from the tribe.

So even they agree with the decent people and they should be banned. Thread done (add sarcastic smiley face!)

Love it

Meltdown99

unsung said:

benjs said:

unsung said:

I'm guessing he was removed because he said something shocking and unfathomable to decent people, right?

Back in the day we used to just change the channel.

Back then, everything you saw was curated by individuals (network executives) who already had decided they wanted you to see it. You may have had the ability to change the channel, but you still weren't in charge of what you saw and what perspectives you were exposed to. The fact that now things can be self-published onto a network who then catch and remove unwanted uploads after the fact doesn't change this reality. In other words, there has never been socially- or corporately- mandated freedom of speech, nor should there be. Government tells us we have to accept that people can make ugly statements, but our free society encourages us to remind individuals that those statements are ugly, or to withdraw our wallets to only allow revenue to those whose values we believe in.

Personally, I think removing Alex Jones is a duct tape fix. The real fix would be teaching citizens to think critically so they knew better than to accept his unsubstantiated bullshit, and allowed his nonsense to fade away into obsolescence or be condemned loudly as garbage.

benjs said:

unsung said:

I'm guessing he was removed because he said something shocking and unfathomable to decent people, right?

Back in the day we used to just change the channel.

I don’t need government to decide what I should watch anymore than I need Mark Zuckerberg to do the job.

Some people want the government to decide when to shit in the morning...