Please tell me that people don't really look at one photo from a rally with about 8 people in it, and determine Trump's support demographics with that.
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The Nazi thing keeps getting brought up because he clearly wants to run things without any checks and balances (no surprise). And the party and half the population seem to want to let him. The attacks on the evil "MSM" (bought into by half the people), chants by these people to lock up just about every political adversary, and the constant vilification of all who dare even question him? Hell, even this military parade. Those are early steps in the march toward authoritarianism. The parallels to Hitler are there. That doesn't mean it's going to look exactly like Nazi Germany. But even from his detractors, I see a frightening lack of critical thinking; essentially that "there's nothing to worry about until we've gassed a few million people. How can we compare ourselves to a regime that did that?" How? By looking at the early signs. By the time we get to full-fledged authoritarianism, it'll be to late. Those who don't learn from history...
We already have fully 40% of the population willing to go wherever Trump wants to take them. This is a very dangerous time.
40%?!? I would think it's maybe 15%. 40 is almost half the country. No way there is that many people that are on his side. His approval ratings show roughly 40%, is that how you come to that number?
Yes. Nothing he has done has lowered that number. Nothing. That 40% does not think he can do any wrong. That might be a critical mass (particularly in the only country with a voting system that inflates the votes of those in that 40%) to move in the direction of authoritarianism.
We were complacent that Trump would lose. He won. We were complacent that he'd get impeached/removed/resign. Looks unlikley. And the left that I see? Complacent that he'll lose. You think 15% think he's god and will follow him to authoritarianism? Complacent that "it can't happen here." I think that brand of complacency is dangerous. It's starting to happen here and the party in power is OK with it.
I never ever thought for a second that Trump would be impeached, resign, removed. That to me is lunacy not complacency. None of those 3 were ever going to happen and it was a pipe dream for anyone to think that.
I do agree with the complacency part on Trump losing. I do believe it "can't happen here" and won't happen here too.
I'm paying attention more than ever and do realize that Trump is just bad for everyone. I'm not crazy like Halifax but I will do my part and vote come next election.
I do believe that only 15% are crazy enough to round up people and fall into the authoritarianism.
Does everyone think that this modern day and age is like the book "The Wave"?
Has Team Mueller’s investigation been completed and
deemed over?
Why is Team Trump Treason being impeached, “lunacy?”
And why am I crazy for having stated the following in one form or another?:
I believe that Team Trump Treason violated federal
law by colluding with Russia to throw the election to him by helping him and
hurting Hillary and as such Team Mueller should be allowed to fully investigate
the allegations and allow the trail to lead him where it may. I also believe that
as a result of a thorough investigation that the evidence uncovered of
accepting election help from a foreign power and violating FEC rules and laws,
aiding and abetting the criminal theft of Hillary’s and the DNC’s emails before
it happened and encouraging it and then covering it up and obstructing justice
are impeachable offenses. The evidence will be so overwhelming and the related
charges, conspiracy to defraud the US electorate with assistance and
coordination with the RNC and NRA, money laundering, tax evasion will leave the
House no option but to hear the charges and hold impeachment hearings,
regardless of who holds the House.
If upon impeachment hearings in the House, the case
moves to the senate for trail, and despite the overwhelming evidence of the
aforementioned crimes being presented, they vote to acquit? I can live with
that. But again, I believe the evidence to be overwhelming and either Team
Trump Treason resigns, or he’s removed from office. Why is that crazy?
When you’ve been around political corruption and
have followed all of the major corruption scandals closely over the last 30 to
40 years, studied Watergate in college and still read up on it today, you see
the parallels and the commonality because they all boil down to the same thing,
power, money and greed. Time will tell with Team Trump Treason and my money is
on bigger than Watergate, much, much bigger and as such, impeachment,
resignation or conviction and removal from office.
I have to ask this. The DNC and Hillary get a pass on what they did to Bernie? The reason I ask is because I am pissed at what happened there.
I apologize for the whataboutism but I was curious about your stance on that.
What do you mean by "pass?" Did they break the law somehow? It was internal party politics. Bernie isn't even a democrat. The party, DNC owed no allegience to him. He got crushed by the party machine and that shit happens all the time within both parties at a micro level. Get involved in local politics if you want to see it for yourself. Please explain what you mean by "get a pass."
I wasn't aware that the DNC party colluding within itself was actually legal, the granting of more funds to HRC, . Had no idea. This is why I asked why the party and Hillary get a free pass. I always wondered why people stopped mentioning that and now I know, it wasn't illegal. I looked it up.
You have to wonder if tRump ever walks out thinking that there will be beautiful women cheering for him....yet this is what he sees
So, if this is his base why do people constantly bring up the Nazis thing?
Anybody notice the pattern? Old white people.
I don't think these people would have any issues with rounding up Hispanics, blacks, (insert any other non-whites) and exterminating them....ala Nazi
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This article is too long for me to post the full text, but give it a read if you think Gern's assertion is really that outrageous. It looks at how different groups think and feel about issues such as Nazi and KKK policies, white supremacists, white nationalists, etc.
In the Morning Consult poll, 3 percent of conservatives, 5 percent of whites, and 6 percent of Republicans admit to a favorable impression of neo-Nazis. Among people who strongly approve of Trump’s performance, the number goes up to 12 percent. Remember: These are the people who are willing to tell a pollster that they sympathize with Nazis. The poll doesn’t show how many others are concealing such views.
Another paragraph, with some conclusions:
When you put all these numbers together, they suggest two things. First, the most likely predictor of overt racism isn’t being white, conservative, or Republican. It’s supporting Trump. Second, among Trump fans, the racist constituency is significant. Twelve percent of strong Trump approvers express a favorable opinion of neo-Nazis, and 19 percent express a favorable view of white nationalists. Twenty-two percent of Trump voters say some white supremacists are “very fine people,” and 45 percent—a plurality—say whites face more discrimination than other groups do.
And worth bearing in mind that this article is a year old. Given what we've seen, I suspect that the numbers have gone up.
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You have to wonder if tRump ever walks out thinking that there will be beautiful women cheering for him....yet this is what he sees
So, if this is his base why do people constantly bring up the Nazis thing?
Anybody notice the pattern? Old white people.
I don't think these people would have any issues with rounding up Hispanics, blacks, (insert any other non-whites) and exterminating them....ala Nazi
Get help
This article is too long for me to post the full text, but give it a read if you think Gern's assertion is really that outrageous. It looks at how different groups think and feel about issues such as Nazi and KKK policies, white supremacists, white nationalists, etc.
In the Morning Consult poll, 3 percent of conservatives, 5 percent of whites, and 6 percent of Republicans admit to a favorable impression of neo-Nazis. Among people who strongly approve of Trump’s performance, the number goes up to 12 percent. Remember: These are the people who are willing to tell a pollster that they sympathize with Nazis. The poll doesn’t show how many others are concealing such views.
Another paragraph, with some conclusions:
When you put all these numbers together, they suggest two things. First, the most likely predictor of overt racism isn’t being white, conservative, or Republican. It’s supporting Trump. Second, among Trump fans, the racist constituency is significant. Twelve percent of strong Trump approvers express a favorable opinion of neo-Nazis, and 19 percent express a favorable view of white nationalists. Twenty-two percent of Trump voters say some white supremacists are “very fine people,” and 45 percent—a plurality—say whites face more discrimination than other groups do.
And worth bearing in mind that this article is a year old. Given what we've seen, I suspect that the numbers have gone up.
I wonder if they used that exact quote when they asked the question...
You have to wonder if tRump ever walks out thinking that there will be beautiful women cheering for him....yet this is what he sees
So, if this is his base why do people constantly bring up the Nazis thing?
Anybody notice the pattern? Old white people.
I don't think these people would have any issues with rounding up Hispanics, blacks, (insert any other non-whites) and exterminating them....ala Nazi
Get help
This article is too long for me to post the full text, but give it a read if you think Gern's assertion is really that outrageous. It looks at how different groups think and feel about issues such as Nazi and KKK policies, white supremacists, white nationalists, etc.
In the Morning Consult poll, 3 percent of conservatives, 5 percent of whites, and 6 percent of Republicans admit to a favorable impression of neo-Nazis. Among people who strongly approve of Trump’s performance, the number goes up to 12 percent. Remember: These are the people who are willing to tell a pollster that they sympathize with Nazis. The poll doesn’t show how many others are concealing such views.
Another paragraph, with some conclusions:
When you put all these numbers together, they suggest two things. First, the most likely predictor of overt racism isn’t being white, conservative, or Republican. It’s supporting Trump. Second, among Trump fans, the racist constituency is significant. Twelve percent of strong Trump approvers express a favorable opinion of neo-Nazis, and 19 percent express a favorable view of white nationalists. Twenty-two percent of Trump voters say some white supremacists are “very fine people,” and 45 percent—a plurality—say whites face more discrimination than other groups do.
And worth bearing in mind that this article is a year old. Given what we've seen, I suspect that the numbers have gone up.
I wonder if they used that exact quote when they asked the question...
Read the article and you’ll know.
And the answer is yes, a certain percentage of people were willing to admit they like Nazi and KKK policies outright, and most of them are Trump supporters.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
You have to wonder if tRump ever walks out thinking that there will be beautiful women cheering for him....yet this is what he sees
So, if this is his base why do people constantly bring up the Nazis thing?
Anybody notice the pattern? Old white people.
I don't think these people would have any issues with rounding up Hispanics, blacks, (insert any other non-whites) and exterminating them....ala Nazi
Get help
This article is too long for me to post the full text, but give it a read if you think Gern's assertion is really that outrageous. It looks at how different groups think and feel about issues such as Nazi and KKK policies, white supremacists, white nationalists, etc.
In the Morning Consult poll, 3 percent of conservatives, 5 percent of whites, and 6 percent of Republicans admit to a favorable impression of neo-Nazis. Among people who strongly approve of Trump’s performance, the number goes up to 12 percent. Remember: These are the people who are willing to tell a pollster that they sympathize with Nazis. The poll doesn’t show how many others are concealing such views.
Another paragraph, with some conclusions:
When you put all these numbers together, they suggest two things. First, the most likely predictor of overt racism isn’t being white, conservative, or Republican. It’s supporting Trump. Second, among Trump fans, the racist constituency is significant. Twelve percent of strong Trump approvers express a favorable opinion of neo-Nazis, and 19 percent express a favorable view of white nationalists. Twenty-two percent of Trump voters say some white supremacists are “very fine people,” and 45 percent—a plurality—say whites face more discrimination than other groups do.
And worth bearing in mind that this article is a year old. Given what we've seen, I suspect that the numbers have gone up.
I wonder if they used that exact quote when they asked the question...
Read the article and you’ll know.
And the answer is yes, a certain percentage of people were willing to admit they like Nazi and KKK policies outright, and most of them are Trump supporters.
The "fine people" was a direct Trump quote so I wondered if that swayed anybody.
What’s really crazy is that the “normal” Team Trump Treason supporter doesn’t shout this shit down and by doing so, they’re endorsing the “movement” and giving it credibility. I watched a Trump supporter lament how the images of these Q supporters/believes were being used to paint all Team Trump Treason supporters as the same. She spent more time on that point and how she wished there was more civility in the discourse. WTF? How about calling that shit out and condemning it unequivocally and talk about it and your “normal” Team Trump Treason supporters being more outspoken in your condemnation. Stop trying to make a false equivalency in defense of your POS president,
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Symbol minded people tend to be very insecure. The desperation of a group like the Q'ers is sad and pathetic. Well, no, just pathetic.
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So true! A huge percentage of what we read as reality is just some bullshit some man or woman (or maybe a machine, who the f knows) made up just to get a rise. And gossip and BS were never so easy to sell so fast before the internet!
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So no free pass. I get that now.
This article is too long for me to post the full text, but give it a read if you think Gern's assertion is really that outrageous. It looks at how different groups think and feel about issues such as Nazi and KKK policies, white supremacists, white nationalists, etc.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/trump_s_bigoted_base_by_the_numbers.html
One paragraph in particular:
In the Morning Consult poll, 3 percent of conservatives, 5 percent of whites, and 6 percent of Republicans admit to a favorable impression of neo-Nazis. Among people who strongly approve of Trump’s performance, the number goes up to 12 percent. Remember: These are the people who are willing to tell a pollster that they sympathize with Nazis. The poll doesn’t show how many others are concealing such views.
Another paragraph, with some conclusions:
When you put all these numbers together, they suggest two things. First, the most likely predictor of overt racism isn’t being white, conservative, or Republican. It’s supporting Trump. Second, among Trump fans, the racist constituency is significant. Twelve percent of strong Trump approvers express a favorable opinion of neo-Nazis, and 19 percent express a favorable view of white nationalists. Twenty-two percent of Trump voters say some white supremacists are “very fine people,” and 45 percent—a plurality—say whites face more discrimination than other groups do.
And worth bearing in mind that this article is a year old. Given what we've seen, I suspect that the numbers have gone up.
And the answer is yes, a certain percentage of people were willing to admit they like Nazi and KKK policies outright, and most of them are Trump supporters.
I will give it a read. Thx
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here's one too. Wrong thread.
Q-bert: You don't have any proving it's not
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QAnon: Meet a real-life believer in the online, pro-Trump conspiracy theory that’s bursting into view
Paul Burton is a 55-year-old living in Atlanta and working in real estate. He thinks government insiders are feeding him information online about Trump's war on the deep state.
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