do we really need around 6 songs of ten in a show?

danny
danny Posts: 2,283
i dont 3 will do for me at least they have so many other great songs ie of riot act backspacer etc we all know ten started it all but 3 is enough
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    agreed

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  • Gingerlou77
    Gingerlou77 Posts: 429
    Yes, yes we do  :):)
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    Yes, yes we do  :):)

    no we don't

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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,636
    They change the setlist every night. 

    Let’s fix the bands that don’t before moving on to PJ. 
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  • danny
    danny Posts: 2,283
    i know they change the setlist every night but there is normally 5/6 songs of ten on every show
    danny d
  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    I get what you are saying. You need to consider that not everyone is a die hard fan. Big big audiences at stadium shows and festivals.   
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    I get what you are saying. You need to consider that not everyone is a die hard fan. Big big audiences at stadium shows and festivals.   

    that's all well and good but that is like me going to see REM in 2001 and expecting them to play the majority of MURMUR.  people shouldn't expect to hear just the hits from bands that aren't on the Legacy circuit.

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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,636
    danny said:
    i know they change the setlist every night but there is normally 5/6 songs of ten on every show
    Not a bad thing. I guess I would wish Deep and Garden hit the rotation more though
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  • KC138045
    KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    danny said:
    i know they change the setlist every night but there is normally 5/6 songs of ten on every show
    Ten is the album that put them on the map and has the songs that draws the casual fans to the shows.  We as the crazy die hards don't need 5-6 songs from ten but it's what needs to be played to keep the casual fans interested and possibly get them to explore the other albums.
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  • JamnJersey
    JamnJersey Posts: 36
    YES..we do
  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    lolobugg said:
    I get what you are saying. You need to consider that not everyone is a die hard fan. Big big audiences at stadium shows and festivals.   

    that's all well and good but that is like me going to see REM in 2001 and expecting them to play the majority of MURMUR.  people shouldn't expect to hear just the hits from bands that aren't on the Legacy circuit.
    agreed but in the end....... 5/6 out of 25-30 songs isn't a big percentage. Even the casual fans don't expect to hear mostly Ten cuts. 
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    edited July 2018
    lolobugg said:
    I get what you are saying. You need to consider that not everyone is a die hard fan. Big big audiences at stadium shows and festivals.   

    that's all well and good but that is like me going to see REM in 2001 and expecting them to play the majority of MURMUR.  people shouldn't expect to hear just the hits from bands that aren't on the Legacy circuit.
    agreed but in the end....... 5/6 out of 25-30 songs isn't a big percentage. Even the casual fans don't expect to hear mostly Ten cuts. 

    that's almost a 1/4 of the set if you use 28 songs as the new norm.  too much TEN

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    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    lolobugg said:
    lolobugg said:
    I get what you are saying. You need to consider that not everyone is a die hard fan. Big big audiences at stadium shows and festivals.   

    that's all well and good but that is like me going to see REM in 2001 and expecting them to play the majority of MURMUR.  people shouldn't expect to hear just the hits from bands that aren't on the Legacy circuit.
    agreed but in the end....... 5/6 out of 25-30 songs isn't a big percentage. Even the casual fans don't expect to hear mostly Ten cuts. 

    that's almost a 1/4 of the set if you use 28 songs as the new norm.  too much TEN
    Ten is ~ 1/3 of the band's album sales.

    If anything the album is underrepresented at their concerts.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,707
    CM189191 said:
    lolobugg said:
    lolobugg said:
    I get what you are saying. You need to consider that not everyone is a die hard fan. Big big audiences at stadium shows and festivals.   

    that's all well and good but that is like me going to see REM in 2001 and expecting them to play the majority of MURMUR.  people shouldn't expect to hear just the hits from bands that aren't on the Legacy circuit.
    agreed but in the end....... 5/6 out of 25-30 songs isn't a big percentage. Even the casual fans don't expect to hear mostly Ten cuts. 

    that's almost a 1/4 of the set if you use 28 songs as the new norm.  too much TEN
    Ten is ~ 1/3 of the band's album sales.

    If anything the album is underrepresented at their concerts.

    If you go by sales. Which you don't have to do.

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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    edited July 2018
    CM189191 said:
    lolobugg said:
    lolobugg said:
    I get what you are saying. You need to consider that not everyone is a die hard fan. Big big audiences at stadium shows and festivals.   

    that's all well and good but that is like me going to see REM in 2001 and expecting them to play the majority of MURMUR.  people shouldn't expect to hear just the hits from bands that aren't on the Legacy circuit.
    agreed but in the end....... 5/6 out of 25-30 songs isn't a big percentage. Even the casual fans don't expect to hear mostly Ten cuts. 

    that's almost a 1/4 of the set if you use 28 songs as the new norm.  too much TEN
    Ten is ~ 1/3 of the band's album sales.

    If anything the album is underrepresented at their concerts.

    If you go by sales. Which you don't have to do.


    Yeah. I am going to the shows to hear a representation of their whole catalog. If I wanted to listen the Ten album I would just stay at home and listen to it on vinyl.  album sales shouldn't matter when it comes to the setlist, unless they truly are just wanting to be an oldies act at this point. I hope not.

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    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • PJWGIII
    PJWGIII Chicago, IL Posts: 811
    Agreed. If you want to hear that, listen to Ten! They’re great songs, but they should be distributed more rarely. Garden and Deep need more plays too among the Ten songs that get played.

    Also, it’s one of the beat and my favorite PJ song ever, but I miss the days when Black wasn’t an almost-every-show song.
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  • Eddieredder
    Eddieredder Posts: 753
    lolobugg said:
    lolobugg said:
    I get what you are saying. You need to consider that not everyone is a die hard fan. Big big audiences at stadium shows and festivals.   

    that's all well and good but that is like me going to see REM in 2001 and expecting them to play the majority of MURMUR.  people shouldn't expect to hear just the hits from bands that aren't on the Legacy circuit.
    agreed but in the end....... 5/6 out of 25-30 songs isn't a big percentage. Even the casual fans don't expect to hear mostly Ten cuts. 

    that's almost a 1/4 of the set if you use 28 songs as the new norm.  too much TEN
    thats some creative math!
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    Half the audience is there just for TEN.  
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,265
    The majority of the crowd for any band are there for the hits. Of course they have to play that many songs off ten. 
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